Hey,
As I awaited for administrative approval I lurked through about 5 pages of threads. You guys seem very motivational and extremely supportive, so I feel comfortable sharing my experience and hope for some insight from the more experienced individuals here.
I come here asking a question, with a general idea of what you all are already going to say, but really all I'm looking for is affirmation and a little confidence boost.
Vague background: 24, Married, children, deployed, stressed and home sick
Last night:
10:30-11:30pm
Having a hard time sleeping. I haven't meditated in months, I've had questionable to zero success in the matter of obtaining a true AP.. to my knowledge. I decide to turn on some binaural beats, this usually helps me relax and meditate. As I "sink" into the void of darkness, the ever so comforting relaxing nothingness where time seems without notice. I think to myself "I haven't felt my third eye in awhile, I wonder if I can still do it". Within I'd say 20 seconds of just giving it attention I feel the ecstasy, the throbbing pressure that sends a wave of relaxation and "at peace". "This is good, I needed this".. moments later I can only describe this feeling as a ripple of consciousness, like a drop of water into a pond.. "I know what this feeling is.. I haven't felt this in a long time, here we go".. At first, my heart starts pounding in my chest and then in my ears.. then the air gets cold.. ice cold.. the most satisfying chilling breaths of air I've ever breathed, then my eyes start to flutter.. they want to open so bad but I'm afraid it will end.. then my head starts to shake.. as if I was cold and shivering. I tell myself "GO GO GO, your almost there.. do it.. there is no fear just leave just go" and a sensation of intensity increases and increases and then I sit up with my eyes open, and all the symptoms are gone.. and im just sitting in my bed looking around with a feeling a disappointment. (this is the moment im confused about, was I really sitting up, or was i really in astral form? everything looked and felt the same as physical existence) I layed back down, feeling the pillow under my head as i rest. "Why can't I get out? and if I am, why can't I open my eyes?"
The binaural beat session lasted 1 hour, throughout that hour I had dream like experiences of flying and random images, and during these id question if it was a dream or not and immediately be looking at the back of my eyelids, and then as I stopped caring again id start having more dream like experiences. I had cold chills on my arms, I remember having to cover them up and then sink back into my void. Then, when the beats stopped.. my eyes opened and I was sitting there questioning the last hour of my life.
What happened?
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Just some more background information, my perspective is a mix influenced by the New Testimate, Robert Bruce's "Astral Dynamics", and Jane Roberts "Seth Speaks" --
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First experience:
Sitting in my room one afternoon reading an article that was touching to me, close my eyes and feel this inner warmth and awe from what I just read. I sink into my comfortable void to reflect, i active my third eye, and then move on to my crown. Before I know it i was down to the base and then what i can only describe as a broom stick of energy, was shoved directly through my skull down my base, almost "locking in" all of my activated chakras. My eyes started to flutter, once again i just wanted to open them but i was afraid what i was see was my room again and it would be over. My heart start pounding, my eyes rolled into the back of my head and i felt a lasso rope around my hip and I just called out in my head "help me, please, I need help to do this".. and then hand over hand was the rope pulled by "something". Eventually everything stopped and in a seamless moment i was in darkness, i saw nothing but infinite black nothing with a presence next me. I opened my eyes and I was in my room, shaking.. but also completely energized as if I slept 8 hours.
What happened?
These are the only two experiences I've been confused about, the other ones are similar to where time just passes while im in my void. I always have problems when I try, Ill have to swallow, or ill get an itch on my face.. or my eyes want to open for no reason or I feel like i have to move.. just something on my body says tend to me the moment i get into this state.
Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse! :-)
When I get into a good meditative/trance state, I feel the vibrations, then the cold, (which I guess is the disassociation from the body), but I don't try to climb out. I just create a intended destination then experience it.
I think you need to prolong your experience. Passively observe these symptoms as "signposts", but then stay the course. You are very close, but if you are still feeling bodily sensations, your not quite ready.
It sounds like you are on the very cusp of success. But need that extra little "umph" to get there.
The part when you tell yourself "GO GO GO", shows that you are getting excited (which is perfectly natural, but needs to be reigned in) and forcing the issue.
I used to be exactly where you were. I would get to the point of no return, then I would think, "OK, here we go". For some reason, that was enough to end my attempt right then and there. I learned (after much practice), that you need to just ALLOW it to happen, but never to try and force it.
"ALLOWING IT" means basically going with the flow.
A good practice for now is once you get deep in your meditative state, start focusing on your Kitchen or your Living Room. Try to see it with as much detail as you can. Feel as you touch different objects in that room. But don't keep checking back to see what your physical body is doing or feeling. I was guilty of this quite a bit and this hinders progress as well.
The first time I ever had a AP consciously aware was after watching a older version of this video, then doing exactly what he did. I liked his older version better because it had more technique and less opinions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3M-LuTRfcI
I sat in my Lazyboy chair and then began the candle staring. I then blew it out, (very important) before I began the NP (Non Physical) staring part. After about 45 minutes of doing this, I heard a rumbling. My body started to vibrate and the rumbling got much louder. Pretty soon I could swear a Helicopter was landing next to me. The vibrations were extremely intense, the sound thunderous and there was a cold breeze all around. I started to see my room with my eyes closed. Then I wimped out, lol.
I couldn't wait to do that again. But the next time I did. The intensity of everything was gone. I could hear a high pitch in my ears, nothing like the thunderous whirring of the Helicopter. I was feeling vibrations, but not like I was being shook out of my skin and I could feel a slight coolness, but again nothing like he cold wind I had felt before. I then saw my room briefly, but then ended up in some kind of Auditorium, watching my deceased brother in law giving a speech on stage. Just an note though, Charlie passed away 6 years ago and at the time was not on my mind, neither did I intend to go see him at all during that AP session. I just found myself there.
I agree that it sounds like you are right on the cusp of leaving your physical body, but your excitement at the sensations, at been on the verge are actually pulling you back, preventing you from crossing that final boundary.
A friend of my was like this, began to get frustrated until she decided to ignore those impulses, those jolts of excitement and just, let go. She didn't focus on the fact she was close, just continued to let things happen, she let go from the physical (as she explained it to me)
I say, been as close as you are, don't want it so bad, just let it happen, go with where the experience takes you, you might find with taking the thoughts, the emotions of success, of wanting it so bad down a notch of two gets you through that last hurdle.
Just let it happen
Quote from: Lionheart on March 10, 2014, 17:53:29
A good practice for now is once you get deep in your meditative state, start focusing on your Kitchen or your Living Room. Try to see it with as much detail as you can. Feel as you touch different objects in that room. But don't keep checking back to see what your physical body is doing or feeling. I was guilty of this quite a bit and this hinders progress as well.
Never thought about this before until I read your post.
I've left my body more times in my first home (my parents house that I grew up in)compared to the last two houses I've moved to. I also have more memories from when I stayed with my parents. Do you think this affects my ability to project?
Quote from: 21g on March 10, 2014, 20:57:07
Never thought about this before until I read your post.
I've left my body more times in my first home (my parents house that I grew up in)compared to the last two houses I've moved to. I also have more memories from when I stayed with my parents. Do you think this affects my ability to project?
No, it's just that your first home might in this case hold stronger memories.
When we are children the NP is a much easier place to visit. We haven't been fully "programmed/brainwashed yet", that we are only our physical bodies. We also didn't have the day to day responsibilities and interruptions that we have as adults.
Basically, all there was in our mind was playing and having new adventures and experiences. :-)
Awesome, thanks. I was wondering if it was something to do with memory and/or visualization. Might try an experiment soon with placing specific objects in certain rooms to help with transference.
Get to the point where I don't feel body sensations and just let it ride, thats all that I'm missing? Sounds simple in theory, but very hard in practice to ignore those sensations. Appreciate the feedback.
Not so much ignore them completely, but don't allow yourself to get fixated on them. Acknowledge them, realise them for what they are but don't attach yourself to them as this will break your focus and more often than not, crash you back to the beginning
Quote from: ikeribusx on March 11, 2014, 02:18:20
Get to the point where I don't feel body sensations and just let it ride, thats all that I'm missing? Sounds simple in theory, but very hard in practice to ignore those sensations. Appreciate the feedback.
Hence why this practice in general can be so "trying".
You need to learn to trust 100% that what is happening is part of the process. No matter how strange (and it can become very strange) it seems to be.
There's always the possibility that you were successful. To test this, get up and switch on a light but keep in your mind that it will NOT light up. This is known as a false awakening. It's that real you'll not recognise it, you'll be convinced its the physical. It happens often and until you check things like the lightswitch, you'll not see the fact of being successful.
My best one was decades ago. I got up ate breakfast and was running late. I missed the bus to school and being a fitness fanatic started running aftet it. When I realised I was running at 40 MPH the recognition shocked me and I woke up for real. It's happened a few times and you really cant tell the difference until you recognise the reality fluctuations presented.
Worth a check for sure.
Quote from: Szaxx on March 11, 2014, 04:00:32
It's that real you'll not recognise it, you'll be convinced its the physical.
This is what I was most curious about, I do not know what to expect, what to "see" or "feel".. when I want to open my eyes Im never sure if I open them like I have my entire life or will I just start "seeing" through my eyelids. I keep reflecting back to the moment when I sat up, it was so real and it felt like I just sat up as I normally would have any other time.. but like I said, after reading 5 pages of forum topics it could have been real and I wasn't realizing the fact.
Quote from: ikeribusx on March 11, 2014, 04:15:28
This is what I was most curious about, I do not know what to expect, what to "see" or "feel".. when I want to open my eyes Im never sure if I open them like I have my entire life or will I just start "seeing" through my eyelids. I keep reflecting back to the moment when I sat up, it was so real and it felt like I just sat up as I normally would have any other time.. but like I said, after reading 5 pages of forum topics it could have been real and I wasn't realizing the fact.
Then try to fly. If you can't, your still in the physical. If you can, then your attempt was successful! :wink: