Bizzarre hands on me in bed

[knightlight]

Every once in a while I will be sleeping and wake up with hands on me.  Usually they are not moving and when I go to touch them they are not there.  A few days ago I woke up and felt an ice cold hand on my leg and I reached down to touch it thinking I wouldnt feel anything anyhow, and I grabbed right onto it!!     It was cold and I grabbed it firmly expecting it to grab back or something but it didnt, it just disappeared after a few seconds.  I have never seen these hands and I dont know where they come from.  Any ideas?  At first I freaked out hardcore when I would feel it but now I just want to know where they come from and try to lay there as long as I can to see if they move or if they are attached to something.  They never move, not one bit.  I dont feel a presence associated with them.

[wizzle3]

before you get freaked out, do you feal a happy presence? or more of a precense in which some entity might be trying to scare you


although i wouldn't understadn a good entity (a past away relitive or something) tryin to do that but hah

when coming to stuff like that, that helps me, the fealing i get around the entitiy




it would creep me out also, either way but

some people even see or hear something and it wouldn't scare them because of the good fealing presense

[manuel]

I have experienced this so many times over the last 3 years, I investigated this matter to a degree, ill be honest, what ever these things are external or internally generated beings, i have no idea in general what they are, they dont seem to id them selves at all, i wouldnt worry about them, dont give them much thought.

[Aerotus]

I would lend you a hand but that would probably make things worse!

[Leyla]

Hey wow- I just had the "invisible grabbing hands" experience. Only in my case it gave me it's phone number.

[knightlight]

Lelya:

Yes I read about that.  I really do wonder whos hands they are and as much as I dont think I'll ever find out its hard to not wonder.  Your experience is far more involved, apparently my hands are just anonymous grabbers, no #'s from them.

Wizzle:

At first I was terrified.  The first couple of times I felt them I jumped so hard and ran up and turned on my light and just laid there.  Now I realized that I dont feel a presence with them and they never move around or seem to be attached to anything.  That just about wipes out my fear about it all, it seems to come from no where, maybe a secret admirer?  

[rikter]

Dude! that sounds pretty damn scary, I haven't been able to consciously astral project yet, but when I am able, is this freaky stuff likely to happen to me too!?

[knightlight]

well I firmly believe that when you are attuned to such things as projection you do one of two things:

1. Emit a beacon that says  "I am open to the metaphysical.  I am open to you" that attracts any number of things.

2. Open a door that you cant close.

If you are not prepared to open yourself up to this then dont bother.  I am not saying you are guaranteed to have freaky stuff happen to you but it appears to me through experience and reading on this board that it seems to be the trend.  Having said that I would never give up any of my abilities.  I have experienced these hands, I have seen shadow people, had wickedly disturbing lucid dreams and projections, but when it comes down to it I truly feel that my life would be empty and seem much more closed off without all of this.  I have experienced things that have solidified my belief that not only does our life have purpose but we have a wonderful afterlife ahead of us all as long as we are open to it.

[rikter]

Thanks knightlight, I am going to keep trying to AP i'm not going to let negative ents change my mind, AP seems fantastic and it's a change in my life that I want to take.

[wizzle3]

i believe, fear in the start, is what makes you vulnerable to being feared

if you go with a good mindstate, (to be honest i have a rugged attitude to anything that might try harming me/tinkling me off, whatever it is) then nothing should scare you

especially the closer you are to your spirit guide(s) really really helps for ANY situation, for me and i'm so sure it's for everyone

i talk to my spirit guide more than God haha, maybe i should pay more attention to God hahaha..

it's because i've become so close to my guide, and i've always been close to God

[kenshin]

i expirience something similiar to this often, where when going to bed at night a spirit/ghost (Have no idea what really) puts its hands on me (i sleep facing the wall so on my back its hands are), first few times this happend it startled me but now it doesn't bother me, i've grown used to it over time also similar to you knightlight the hands don't move (Well occasionaly they have but only for a short while)

while i can sense spirits/ghosts i can't sense wether their good or bad, so i have no idea why it does it maybe it expects a response (never have even said anything to a spirit), if it really bothers you try asking it to go away or something

[izalco]

I never felt hands but I do feel like something is on the bed, like feeling the sheets move around. weird.

[Dragonhawk]

Hey izalco I know exactly what you mean. I get the same thing happening to me too.
It's so weird it feels like I have some animal walking around on my bed, even when I am wide awake I can sometimes feel it. I have looked and there is nothing there.  

Maybe it's an old pet coming back for a visit.  

[Unison]

you know I was listening to a monroe inst. mp3 the other day. It talked about his early experiences in the astral. He spoke of a monster being behind him breathing on him. He said he thought it was a monster.. Well he ended up finding that it was his own body and he was hearing him self breathing on his astral. Cool stuff. Maybe this can help. Or turn around and confront your fear. Another recommendation ive heard works is light a candle asking for protection from guides or positive entities and ask any negative entities to leave.. Hope some of this helps.

[Leyla]

Did it make u feel cheap and dirty, to have these astral hands feel you up, and then not even give you the courtesy of leaving their phone number?

[Goldsplinter]

when i was about 4 or 3, i remember many nights every night, i used to sleep on my bed that was leaned on the side up against the wall, and very late at night i would stick my hands through where the bed meets and the wall, and i would feel a hand, and grabbing it and touching it....super weird.

[knightlight]

 leyla well they didnt feel me up in a dirty sense but yes its quiet strange.  If it is someone or something I truely wonder what its motivation is.

[izalco]

Hey izalco I know exactly what you mean. I get the same thing happening to me too.
It's so weird it feels like I have some animal walking around on my bed, even when I am wide awake I can sometimes feel it. I have looked and there is nothing there.  

Maybe it's an old pet coming back for a visit.  

Last night i just was tired and decided not to practice AP or OBE...

Went to bed around 12:30... about 1:30 I woke up, and it felt like I was asleep for a couple of hours... went to get a drink, went back to bed...

then, feel back asleep and then I felt like i was being levitated off my bed, but it was weird, it left like the sheets that were covering me, were coming with me... why?

I also felt like I was being pulled, like for example, i was levitating up then back down. It was weird, i was disoriented. I knew what was going on but was confused. I thought I felt something grab my leg from under the bed.


the best way to describe is that my bed was like a boat floating on water, going up, down, left, right, being pull in these directions.

I tried to wake up, and after i did, I realized that during the whole time I had sleep paralysis. Went back to bed after wards, thinking I should have tried harder to OBE at the time, but at the time I was disoriented.

What really happened last night?


so check this out, I looked up  sleep paralysis + levitation on google. Check what I found

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/07/09/MN56310.DTL

About once a week, Jean-Christophe Terrillon wakes up and senses the presence of a threatening, evil being beside his bed.

Terror ripples through him, and he tries to move or call out, but he is paralyzed -- unable to raise an arm or make a sound. His ears ring, a weight presses down on his chest, and he has to struggle for breath.

``I feel an intense pressure in my head, as if it's going to explode,'' said Terrillon, a Canadian physicist doing research in Japan.

Sometimes he finds himself transported upward and looking down on his body, or else sent hurtling through a long tunnel, and these episodes are terrifying even for a scientist like him who does not believe that evil spirits go around haunting people.

Called sleep paralysis, this disorder -- the result of a disconnect between brain and body as a person is on the fringe of sleep -- is turning out to be increasingly common, affecting nearly half of all people at least once. Moreover, a growing number of scholars believe that sleep paralysis may help explain many ancient reports of attacks by witches and modern claims of abduction by space aliens.

``I think it can explain claims of witchcraft and alien abduction,'' said Kazuhiko Fukuda, a psychologist at Fukushima University in Japan and a leading expert on sleep paralysis. Research in Japan has had a head start because sleep paralysis is well-known to most Japanese, who call it kanashibari, while it is little- known and less studied in the West.

``We have a framework for it, but in North America there's no concept for people to understand what has happened to them,'' Fukuda said. ``So if Americans have the experience, and if they have heard of alien abductions, then they may think, `Aha, it's alien abduction!' ''

Sleep paralysis was once thought to be very rare. But recent studies in Canada, Japan, China and the United States have suggested that it may strike at least 40 percent or 50 percent of all people at least once, and a study in Newfoundland, Canada, found that more than 60 percent had experienced it.

There, as in Japan, people have a name for the condition, and some scholars believe that people are therefore more likely to identify it when it happens to them. In Newfoundland, it is called ``old hag'' because it is associated with visions of an old witch sitting on the chest of a paralyzed sleeper, sometimes throttling the sleeper's neck with her hands.

``People will draw on the most plausible account in their repertoire to explain their experience,'' said Al Cheyne, an associate professor of psychology at the University of Waterloo in Canada. ``Trolls or witches no longer constitute plausible interpretations of these hallucinations.

``The notion of aliens from outer space is more contemporary and somewhat more plausible to the modern mind,'' he said. ``So a flight on a broomstick is replaced by a teleportation to a waiting spaceship.''

Cheyne said that in a survey he worked on involving more than 2,000 people identified as experiencing sleep paralysis, hundreds described experiences similar to alien abduction.

``A sensed presence, vague gibberish spoken in one's ear, shadowy creatures moving about the room, a strange immobility, a crushing pressure and painful sensations in various parts of the body -- these are compatible not just with an assault by a primitive demon but also with probing by alien experimenters,'' Cheyne said. ``And the sensations of floating and flying account for the reports of levitation and transport to alien vessels.''

In recent years there has been a huge increase in the number of people who insist that they have been kidnapped by alien creatures from outer space, perhaps subjected to medical experiments and then released again. These claims have been a bit of a scientific puzzle, because they strike most people as utterly wacky and yet they are relatively widespread. One well-publicized (and widely criticized) Roper Poll published in 1992 suggested that nearly 4 million American reported experiences akin to alien abduction.

Surprisingly, one study found that these people were no more fantasy-prone than the general population and had slightly higher intelligence. Many shun publicity and show signs of feeling traumatized and humiliated.

Several scholars have found that people are more likely to report alien abductions when they have been exposed to movies or books about the idea. Simon Sherwood, a researcher on sleep paralysis in England, said that in one case study he gathered, a regular sufferer of sleep paralysis watched an alien film and then had a hallucination of ``little blue aliens'' inserting a metal probe into his forehead.

The growing professional literature on sleep paralysis has often mentioned the parallels with reports of alien abductions. Still, many scholars are reluctant to research the connection for fear of tainting their reputations. Others say that a connection is plausible but unproved.

Those who believe in alien abductions deny that sleep paralysis could be behind it all. John E. Mack, a Harvard University Medical School professor who is the most prominent defender of the possibility of abductions, argues that sleep paralysis simply does not fit the evidence. He notes that at least a few abduction reports come from remote places where people are not exposed to movies or tales of UFO's, and that many happen in daylight and involve people who seem to have been awake and alert.

Other defenders of abduction theories say aliens may be clever enough to use sleep paralysis in their kidnappings.

Sleep paralysis researchers say that as many as 60 percent of intense abduction experiences were linked to sleep, and some of the reported symptoms -- noises, smells, paralysis, levitation, terror, images of frightening intruders -- are very similar to those of sleep paralysis.

So what is sleep paralysis?

Even after many years of study, particularly in the last decade, it remains mysterious. Experts have trouble even saying definitively whether a person is asleep or awake during sleep paralysis.

``In the classic definition, you are awake,'' said Emmanuel Mignot, director of the Center for Narcolepsy at Stanford University Medical School. ``But in practice, there's a gradient between being awake and being in REM sleep,'' he said.

During REM sleep -- the period when rapid eye movement takes place -- the body essentially turns itself off and disconnects from the brain. This is a safety measure, so that people do not physically act out their dreams, and it means that people are effectively paralyzed during part of their sleep. Even automatic reflexes, like kicking when the knee is tapped, do not work during REM sleep.

Sleep paralysis seems to occur when the body is in REM sleep and so is paralyzed and disconnected from the brain, while the brain has emerged from sleep and is either awake or semiawake. Usually after a minute or two the spell is broken and the person is able to move again, as the brain and body re-establish their connection.

What is going on in the brain during sleep paralysis is unclear. The person experiencing the paralysis feels completely awake and ``sees'' the room clearly, but laboratory experiments in Japan show that sometimes people experiencing sleep paralysis do not even open their eyes.

Aside from witchcraft and alien abduction, sleep paralysis is also sometimes mentioned as a possible link to shamanism and to dream interpretation and even to near- death experiences. But for many sufferers, the growing research in the field is reassuring simply because it demonstrates that they are not alone in their terrifying nighttime paralysis and hallucinations.

``Sometimes I'm just glad that I didn't live a long time ago,'' said Terrillon, the Canadian physicist in Japan. ``Because maybe people who had this in the olden days were put in madhouses.''


also, a similar expirence to mine

http://www.sleepnet.com/rest3/messages/508.html

I have an unusual question, does anybody have a successful technique that may be used to precipitate or at least promote and prolong sleep paralysis episodes.

I have been experiencing this event for well over twenty years with initial panic/fear responses, My Godfather claiming Satan's attempt to possess, "turned on" people claiming Astral Projection, others claiming near death experience. They have occurred as often as several to a dozen times in a month, to skipping two or three years before reoccurring.

After the first couple of years, I realized that no harm was coming to me with regard to the sleep paralysis, so I began to welcome the experience as something to play with. The episodes have changed little over the years, except that I imagine less levitation then initially experienced (oddly I always levitated while remaining anchored to the bed by the back of my head, pivoting around with my legs in the air). It is very hard to predict when I may have an episode, I have Asthma (little problem these days with it) but was heavily medicated while younger and thought the drugs caused it, but I don't do drugs now (or drink) with episodes still occurring.

A typical event starts almost immediately upon lying down, with my wife present or not. I may be a little wearier then normal. It can be anytime I lie down, light or dark, AM or PM. It will begin with a buzzing sensation that zips or zooms by my head or feels like a marble inside my head going around and around. Sometimes it feels like the apex of a roller coaster ride and the immediate downward swoop following. These sensations may repeat several times (almost like trying to start a cold engine) and in the past would either pass and go no further leading to sleep, or move to the next stage.

If the next stage is to occur, soon comes a pressure building over my entire body, sometimes feeling like needles & pins over every square inch and the paralysis becomes evident. This was the fear point. If levitation sensations happen, it is now. At this point I would bet my life that I am fully awake and in control of all but my body. Vivid, aware and lucid are the event and I. Sometimes, absolutely believable and real-like dreams occur at this stage, often I can interact and control these dreams. I am not in third person, but actually there and being me. They are never bad dreams, and usually involve those I know with supporting stand-ins to make it complete.

While younger I would fight and scream, now I experiment to enhance, prolong and play. I think I can force it once the buzzing happens, but have little luck in prolonging the experience prior to full sleep. I welcome the events now to give me a break from the often-dull everyday experience of life and let me participate in the me that I don't know. I don't imagine any portals into brave new worlds, visiting other times and planets, or battling evil to maintain my soul, I don't believe the answer to solve my problems is there or that invention to make me rich. I simply view this as a tired brain living the one third of my life normally a background process and hidden from my consciousness.

Anyway, I would be interested to hear of similar views grounded in reality.


another persons reply

What you've described is pretty similar to what
has been happening to me since high school at least
(I'm now 39). Funny thing-- my legs would seem
to go up in the air too!


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could all this be just in our heads? Evidence may point that way

[recoverer]

I woke up with a hand or two touching me last night. It moved about to different parts of my body, sort of in a methodical way. At first I was resistant to whatever was touching me.  While it was touching my back, I turned over onto my back in order to stop it, but my mattress didn't prevent it from doing so. I tried to communicate with it, but all I could hear is a small squealing sound (I don't think my throat chakra is developed enough).  Anyway, the hand/hands kept moving and touching different parts of my body. After a while the little bit of fear I felt diminished to almost no fear. I had some faith that the hand/hands were trying to help me. After all, I've been getting a lot of help from my higher self/spirit World lately. I was touched for more than 5 minutes.

Right after wards, I had a shifting sensation within my entire left hip area. It sort of felt like kundalini feels when it moves around. It seemed to do so in a methodical manner. Even though I kept feeling the movement by my hip area, it seemed as if it was moving to my neck area. I experienced it in two different ways at the same time.

So what happened? Perhaps my energy body was being worked on. Or perhaps that which I am connected to in the spirit World is trying to help me get over my fear of hearing voices for prolonged periods of time (I've heard them for short periods of time).  The mental messages I got this morning were: "You don't become afraid when you see things, and you don't become afraid even when hands touch you for more than 5 minutes. So why should you be afraid of hearing voices?"

[Dragonhawk]

Talk about hearing voices Recoverer, this morning very early I was awakened by the presence of a hand on my ankle and a definite figure by my bed. Although my eyes were closed I could see the shadowy figure as it stood at the top of my bed and I could hear it giggle   . Twice I opened my eyes to look around the room but each time it just vanished only to return moments after I closed eyes. Eventually it poked me in the face and rested its head on my chest, I could feel it's weight on me and still it continued to giggle that I just had to make a grab for it. Would you believe it the moment I went to grab it 'poof' it was gone and it didn't return.

What I don't get is what was so funny.  

[recoverer]

Dragonhawk:

I heard a couple of voices this morning shortly after I woke up.

A woman's voice said: "Who are you?" Not in the context of she wanted to know who I am. Rather in the context of this is a question I should ask myself.

A man's voice said: "The area of expertise is in the heart."

The voices didn't sound like physical voices. More like dream voices, even though I was fully conscious.

Interesting enough, what they said relates to what I've been meditating on lately. Perhaps I should focus on "who am I" and wisdom through the heart more even more. I can be a bit cerebral at times, and this gets in the way of me listening to my heart.