Could someone tell me if this is my first OBE please

[tovtm]

First time I think I was outer body. Ive been to sleep for the night and woken up at about 6:30am stayed awake for about 10mins and tried to go back to resting position laying down.

I then had these very strange sensations of myself not aligned to my body slightly but I could move is the only way to describe it. I had what I could only describe from reading about it as paralysis as my body felt like it was stuck but I could move little bits very tiny amounts abit like when your half asleep and you have nooooo energy what so ever and you feel your arms are really heavy. Anyway I shortly after realised what was going on and it stopped. Not sure if I fell back to sleep again but it happen again this time I put my arms up but it was so strange I knew my arms was in front of me but there was nothing there like my arms was seethrough. Anyway I tried the rope trick as I realised I must have made it to AP stage but I felt my head stuck to where my physical head would have been I couldn't pull myself up. I looked at my ceiling which is a artext ceiling and Its the most vivid sight I've had after going to bed was so real I want sure if I was awake or sleep but just knew with not being able to see my arms I was AP I did notice though that as I looked really close at the ceiling it was slightly vibrating? Or could I have just been imagining that?

I then heard my bedroom door open (very distinctive sound) although never see it open.  Then I heard my gf voice say to me "you ok babe" just as the door opened sound i pulled the covers over me as I don't wear cloths to bed but same thing happened the covers was seethrough but I felt and knew they were there. I can't remember if I said to her Yes I'm ok or moved but she then replied "ok you want me to go then"  I'm also never a morning person but feel wide awake and only been laying in bed since trying this for a hour.

Just to add my Gf was at work at the time so this is why I think I could be a lucid dream

[Xanth]

There are some realizations that people need to make...

A lot of Projection-talk revolves around the term "Out of body". 
There is no such thing as "out of body"... there simply is no body.  Ever.  There is only consciousness.

While you identify right now as being physically awake and experiencing this physical reality, your consciousness is merely PROJECTING here.

You're projecting right now.  You just don't recognize it as such because you've been taught that this physical reality and this physical body you "inhabit" are the only things that are *REAL*.  This is a... I was going to say a lie, but it's not a lie, because a lie is when you say something which you know to be false and nobody really realizes or understands this truth yet, so it's not a lie.  It's just a confusing afterthought that nobody really considers. 

You're taught that all of this stuff you see and experience around you is real... you're never taught to question any of it, but REAL is simply whatever you experience.  Whether it's in this reality or another reality, real is simply that which you experience.

You might be reading this and feel like you're really confused about what I'm talking about here and you probably have no idea what I'm talking about at this point, but that's okay, because if you keep at this long enough, you'll experience this for yourself and you'll eventually KNOW.  You're also probably very confused right now too, because you probably think I didn't even remotely answer the question asked.

When in actuality, the answer is laid out all too clearly here.

[HindSight]

I understand what you're trying to say Xanth, but when he tovtm says that his GF was at work when he distinctively heard his GF say something, does that mean it is possible to project at two or more places at once? Or could this be an illusion(for lack of a better term) that he has created for himself? Or that his gf mearly thought that and he had  heard it?

[Astralsuzy]

There are some realizations that people need to make...

A lot of Projection-talk revolves around the term "Out of body". 
There is no such thing as "out of body"... there simply is no body.  Ever.  There is only consciousness.

I have an astral body.  I do not like that term.  I prefer to say, inner self.  The ap books say we have an astral body.  I know the authors are not always correct particularly when it comes to ap.  When I am going out of my body, I feel my feet touching the ground.  I have looked in the mirror and I have seen myself as I am physically.  I have looked down on myself to see what I am wearing etc etc.  What you are saying can be true as well.  If you think you have no body, then you will not have one.  I think it depends on what we think.

[Szaxx]

It's to do with the SP condition. These noises are created by you. Your subconcious makes them while in the early stages of learning. Once experienced, you begin to create them yourself. All so real and you can't tell the difference between them being an auditory hallucination or physically generated.
They can be a complete mix of tactile, sounds and you seeing things.
When these progress somewhat they become familiar to you and generally you ignore them.
One step further is where you wake up get a drink or something typical for a morning. Then find things around you either not working or wrong. Seeing this gets your attention then you wake for real in your bed. You are 100% convinced you got up. It's a false awakening. Your concious mind playing a part in it.
The above is very common and most people just accept it as being tired.

[tovtm]

Thankyou for your replys so far.  So can I safely say it was me trying to leave my physical body and not just a lucid dream.

Can anyone explain the ceiling vibrating when I looked closely at at or is this what the astral plane does although very clear due to vibrating at different levels to what were used to in waking life.

Dont want to ask too many questions but as the astral world is a mirror image of the physical world can you hear people talking if they are awake in physical plane say having a conversation with someone can you listern to them or would it not be possible/distorted

[Szaxx]

A mirror or copy?
You are so far from the truth.
If every star in the sky was an experienced location. I'm sure you'd run out of Starr before you scratched the surface.
The immensity of it is not really something that can be represented physically.

[tovtm]

Sorry where I'm trying to read so much on this where I'm new (about two maybe three weeks  ago) I may be  reading a few different things then later merging the two bits together 

I thought I read for every physical item/object or place there is the same in the astral plane like in my experience I felt floating out of my body and the room was identical to my bedroom literally identical.  Again don't want to annoy  anyone is just in Reading so much is hard to take it all in.

Tom.

[Xanth]

I understand what you're trying to say Xanth, but when he tovtm says that his GF was at work when he distinctively heard his GF say something, does that mean it is possible to project at two or more places at once? Or could this be an illusion(for lack of a better term) that he has created for himself? Or that his gf mearly thought that and he had  heard it?

From my perspective, it's just a reality fluctuation. 

It's like while I'm sitting on the train and it pulls into the station.  I'm usually pretty deeply relaxed in a meditative state... while I'm sitting there waiting for people to pile out of the train, I get pretty heavy hypnogogic images.  Basically, I'll be watching certain people sitting around my (namely, my fiance) getting up and walking away.  This is something that I will be CLEARLY seeing happening around me... then I'll open my eyes and they'll still be standing there, yet I'll have 100% thought they had already left.

That's what's this is about.  Not exactly hypnogogic in nature... as tovtm seems to be pretty much fully asleep here, but still the same "thing" happening.

[Szaxx]

Don't worry Tom, the startout scenes are identical to the physical world with some reality fluctuations. You will feel like you are travelling away from your body. I and everyone else gets this feel from the initial experiences.
After many more this changes to the feel of you bringing the scenery to yourself.
Later it's more strange as at times there's no scenery, you are aware of everything as a point of conciousness that exists without any form at all.
It's hard to accept being a physical world only experiencer.
It'll take a while but you'll get the hang of it. The physical world 'rules' don't apply. They are minimal and rigid by comparison, the rest of the possible experiences have nothing in common with the physical. You become part of everything that is and the physical you know so well is that small it could dissapear and you wouldn't miss it.
Eventually you'll understand and not wanting to return here becomes mind blowing.
Immense isn't big enough a word...

[tovtm]

What about remote viewing isn't that an identical copy of  the physical plane? Or is this part of a plane on the astral realm?

[CFTraveler]

This is the problem with everyone thinking that their terminology is the 'right' one and others are wrong.
For the record, you are comparing different ways of seeing the same thing, and criticizing items that you don't believe in.

Here is a theory that marries them all, without making someone 'wrong':
The astral, mental, etheric or rtz and physical worlds are all graduations of the same place- some are more mental than others.  The word 'existence' here is meaningless because we're talking about perception.  We perceive environments differently and give them different names.
When you get out of your body, you experience the world in one of many ways-
the etheric or rtz is an energetic representation of your physical surroundings.  This is the first way to experience the nonphysical for most people, not all.  It is said to be an energetic copy because as an energy body you interact with your surroundings at an energy level.  Everything is energy in the physical world, folks.  You can't say 'there is no energy copy' because we know that the chair I'm sitting on with my big butt is made of energy, perceived as matter by my material butt.  But my energetic butt, that is, the energetic manifestation of my butt (its electrons, protons and neutrons) interact with the energetic version of the chair.
The astral is more psychologically distant way to perceive the world.  You will have more emotionally-and thought-based surroundings.  Your astral body, that is, the part of you that is less physical and more fantastic/emotional/conceptual perceives its environment in a less physical or more fantastic way.  It is called astral because in the beginning, when things were being given names, they saw themselves in the mirror, and saw a starry type of form- and often find themselves in the starry void (that modernists call the 'void', 3D Black, or simply 'the astral'.  And yes, astral means 'of the star'.
The mental body is the most psychologically distanced perceptual vehicle from the physical- it's what you 'think' with.  So when you project, and find yourself in an environment that is difficult to express in words, yet 'know what it is about when you're there', you're 'in the mental realm'.  Is it a place?  No, by definition it's not a place, because it's mind stuff.  Do you have a mental body?  If you're perceiving thought, you do.
Does it exist?  Do your thoughts exist?  Maybe not in time and space, but they exist somewhere.
No one is wrong, we just look at it in different ways, and I like to use descriptive terms.

[CFTraveler]

I like CFT's description when she says that she isn't leaving her body but rather she is expanding her consciousness to reach out from her physical surroundings. This does not mean that every projection starts from her locally as our consciousness may have already expanded far from us before we become aware. Is that more or less what you said CFT?

It's somewhat close to what I think.  I think we have an all-encompassing consciousness that is focused in one point in spacetime- so that even though I can find myself anywhere without leaving my body, my conscious awareness is focused in my physical surroundings.  But when I have an OBE, my energy (which I distinguish from consciousness, it's a different aspect of my 'me') my focus of consciousness does not expand, so much as it 'moves' from one point in my energy to another.  This is why movement is part of the experience- while an 'astral projection' such as phasing is different in a very perceptible way- in that case, I do believe my energy stays concentrated locally while my consciousness expands to wherever I focus on.
This is a hypothesis however, and I'm not necessarily married to it- but it does 'explain' (or describe) why the experience of an OBE is so different than the experience to a phase to the astral.