Death - Should I Take it Seriously?

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stubborn-envelope

Two - three years ago I started having a strange and overwhelming feeling that I will die early.  I'm not really given a specific time, so some days I wasn't sure if it was just around the corner or not.  I get the feeling less often now, but from time to time I still have it.  I experienced it again a few days ago.  I'm only 18.  I feel like I will get started in life, but I could go as early as my early 30s.  This feeling will not go away.  I don't have dread or fear...just the feeling that it's going to be cut short.  In my short life I've had many unusual and difficult experiences, and I've grown tremendously at a very, very rapid pace.  Could this be why this life isn't going to be so long?

On the other hand, should I even take this seriously?  Could it be a true premonition?  My intuition has been very correct at times....I just don't know.

James

3588897

I get that feeling very often. Just a few months ago I heard something that sounded like my dead grandmother say I was going to die in 11 years (back in June when I was hearing thing and seeing people in the living room). I didn't take it to seariously and personally, I don't think you should either. Besides the way I see it you die when you've learned what you were supposed to learn while you were here. I say you shouldn't worry about it too much. I say write your will just in case though and don't let worrying about an early death consume your life.

Skippy

Hmm. Your feelings could be right, but then again, it could just be paranoia, and there might be nothing to it. I hope your life isn't cut short, though.

I think it's probably best not to worry about it too much, like 3588897 said. Try not to let it bother you much. If it keeps playing on your mind, it'll probably be difficult for you to enjoy life. From what you said, it seems like you don't think about it too much anyway, so that's a good thing.  :-)
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


Skippy

I've sometimes felt like I'm going to have an early death - but that's usually when I'm feeling miserable or depressed, so I usually put it down to my mood. I try not to worry about dying. I actually look forward to the things I'll be able to do and the people I'll be able to meet once I'm dead. I'm not looking forward to the actual dying itself, but afterwards, it should be fun.
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


stubborn-envelope

it doesnt scare me or keep me from enjoying life, but since so many other people get the feeling, maybe there's nothing to it.  I think most people who are correct about it know about a death that will occur in a very short period of time....it was also worst when i was depressed which might explain why I have it less often -- I'm less depressed.  it isn't really paranoia because I'm not scared but it could be similar since i've had psychotic paranoia before....it really doesn't matter when I die.  I'm not scared of dying.

James

CFTraveler

The funny thing is, I've always lived with the dread of living too long.  I come from a family of long-lived women (my great grandma died at +100, my grandma is about 98 or 99, and my mom has smoked, drank and eaten all kinds of things that are bad for you and is healthier than any of us (her kids).  I have always dreaded losing my loved ones so have prayed to die first. I even married a man younger than me to give myself a margin there. So I'm oppossite this way.

projektr

Take your health seriously. Take how you live life seriously. Don't take a "feeling" of death seriously. What you envision is what you become.

bounda

right after i read this, my friend IMs me saying he has a very extreme feeling that he was going to die soon..

GANAMOHA

dont worry the feeling of impending doom is quite common  :-)
I stand at the threshold of what could be a new world

Werp Weg Alles

I don't really get the feeling that I'm going to die soon, however, I do get the feeling at times (randomly) that if I died right now, it would be perfect.  The strange thing is, it isn't with depression or anxiety, lots of times it seems to be when I'm most content or just received some kind of recognition and I think if I died right now, that would be wonderful and I can picture my soul leaving my body, I don't really know why, anyone have any ideas??
"What you do in life, echoes in eternity"

"I am not afraid to keep on living"

"Be not afraid of greatness"

"I hold it true that thoughts are things"

Skippy

Quote from: Werp Weg Alles on November 18, 2006, 14:08:44I do get the feeling at times (randomly) that if I died right now, it would be perfect.  The strange thing is, it isn't with depression or anxiety, lots of times it seems to be when I'm most content or just received some kind of recognition and I think if I died right now, that would be wonderful and I can picture my soul leaving my body, I don't really know why, anyone have any ideas??

Kelsey Grammer (who played Frasier Crane on Cheers and Frasier) reported something similar once. When he was a teenager, he was doing something (I can't quite remember what) and he had a feeling of extreme happiness, and he said to God, "If this is what death is like, take me now" or something like that.

I think basically you may be thinking subconsciously that the state of contentness or happiness that you're in is what it's going to be like when you're dead, and you want to keep on experiencing that, so you like the idea of dying at that moment. It may not be, though, it's just an idea.
The Bee Gees and Andy Gibb


Werp Weg Alles

THANK YOU!!! Skippy, yes, now that I think about it, probably a little obvious thats what it was, just thought about it and replied before I considered it a little more.  Thanks again though, I really appreciate the help.  Has anyone else experienced anything like this?  Just wondering?
"What you do in life, echoes in eternity"

"I am not afraid to keep on living"

"Be not afraid of greatness"

"I hold it true that thoughts are things"

Astir

I've felt that way.
Now I feel incredibly protected by something I haven't been able to really articulate. I wouldn't say it protects me from death itself, but over this past year in particular I've become increasingly less fearful. I've taken some hard hits...health wise. But somehow, I'm being held together and I believe I have the ability to keep things this way. As long as I want it this way. In my mind, looming death is only in the loss of a will to live. And I refuse to lose that...ever again.
I am receiving help though...from something else as well.

Werp Weg Alles

Thanks for the reply.  That's a different way to think about it, and I hadn't thought it threw that way before.  Is it too personal to ask what the something else is?  Just curious I suppose...sorry if it is.  And if its not, what is it?
"What you do in life, echoes in eternity"

"I am not afraid to keep on living"

"Be not afraid of greatness"

"I hold it true that thoughts are things"

Stevo

Sure! You are going to die early. In fact, you're going to die tomorrow. Something painless will happen, like a car will hit you, or you'll be decapitated suddenly from a falling sheet of glass off a tall building. So, now that you know you're going to die, what are you going to do about it?

Despite a long, or short life, you will die eventually. It's not worth even thinking about. The reality being that if you died tomorrow and you didn't die in grace about it, then you've possibly got an issue in your hands. Because really, if you died suddenly and you didn't feel like you were happy with life, then you're kinda screwed.

Personally I don't think that anything truly dictates when/how we are supposed to die because it's no more important than what you had for breakfast this morning. In fact, what you had for breakfast is much more important than when you will die. Remember to eat healthy, drink lots of water, and get your exercise.

Leave the dying up to time. Just use it as a reminder to enjoy what you have in the meantime.
As it as written, now and forever shall be. In the name of the Stevo, amen.

Awakened_Mind

I feel the same way as Stevo.

I feel that a lot of people look at death from a selfish perspective. Usually someone is taken out of their life so they mourn. Let's look at the possibilities at what happens after death:
1. You go somewhere quiet where it's dark and there's just nothing, as it is when our minds are asleep or
2. There is an afterlife and your learning process continues.

What's so bad about either of those?

There's no point living your life in fear of dying and neglecting living because of it. Then I suppose as well "Why am I dying to live, when I'm just living to die?"

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.

Naharo


I cant wait till I die. Im hoping that in the moment of dying I will get the final boost of energy to drop evereything and have a clear vision of the world.

The best moments in my life have been when I felt like I was on the verge of dying - most of them during AP.

CFTraveler

Quote from: Naharo on December 20, 2006, 06:06:49

The best moments in my life have been when I felt like I was on the verge of dying - most of them during AP.
Why did you feel like you were on the verge of dying during AP?

Naharo

its just that astral plane is a very unknown territory for me to to travel in. a few times I have been absolutely freaked out because I felt some other beings around me in the room as I was in the astral plane. its hard for me to recall why I was sometimes so afraid  during my APs (not every time). Sometimes I asked for help in the name of all the saints I could remember of...even though im not religious myself. A few times I was fighting for my life and I genuinely believed I was on the verge of destruction - at least thats what it felt like.

there rules are different in the astral plane...its all about energies (what ever it means :D). some weird wind or something might be able to kill you in no time...I dont have a clue what might be lurking out there for me (as I have read in Carlos Castaneda books theres a lot of things out there which might trap or even kill you)

To be honest lot of the fears I have might come from what I have read in Carlos Castaneda books, but anyways Im probably like a baby in the astral world ..so I assume that im always on the verge of destruction while Im out there - and this gives me an extra boost if I get out of my body.

CFTraveler

Quotethere rules are different in the astral plane...its all about energies (what ever it means ). some weird wind or something might be able to kill you in no time...
Actually, if you talk to frequent projectors in this and other sites, you should realize that nothing in the astral can hurt you, because you are always in the astral.  It's just that when you're awake your focus in in the material, and when you sleep your focus is on another form of reality, but it is part of reality nonetheless.  So to be killed in the astral is at least highly improbable (since it's so hard to prove a negative.)
The idea of the astral being a 'fragile' state came from antiquity, when people believed that
1-astral travelers left their bodies empty when they left, and something could then hurt or kill them while they were out
2-mystics thought that only 'special' people could ap, and therefore it was a 'dangerous' practice that only a select few could do.
They even thought that two projectors couldn't even touch each other without someone getting killed!  I guess folks back then didn't sleep in the same bed with their spouses.

The point is, that in modern times, us projectors have changed the beliefs around ap, based on our experiences.  We now are pretty sure that:
You don't leave your body, you shift part of your energy system to the astral.  Kiwibonga has some nifty diagrams that graphically show this.
Our existence is multidimensional- the physical part of me expresses as a body, the higher-frequency (soul, or whatever you call it) part of me is always in that higher frequency realm.  All the time.  What changes is your focus of attention, or point of consciousness, if you will.
When you die, your body dies, not your soul/spirit.  So to die your body has to die.  The only thing that can be affected by the astral is your mind.  And yes, your mind can kill you, but only if you're afraid.  And that doesn't always come from knowledge of the astral.

Naharo

so theres one "me" thats in the physical world and a second "me" thats in the astral world. did I get that right?
if I change my focus to the astral "me" the physical "me" falls asleep (or it is in a state in which its not capable of taking action). does that mean that while I have the focus on my physical "me" the astral "me" is asleep in the astral plane? if not then what do the astral "me"s  do all the time?

CFTraveler

Quote from: Naharo on December 21, 2006, 23:47:49
so theres one "me" thats in the physical world and a second "me" thats in the astral world. did I get that right?
Almost.  There is one you that exists everywhere/when.  Your body is a part of you, your spirit is a part of you.  You can say you're a spirit expressing as a body in the material, but I'd rather say we're a waveform expressing many frequencies, starting with the very high, to the very low, and materiality is only one part of the spectrum that is you.  Like ultraviolet light, which we know exists (because we can feel it, but not see it, the same with infrared) the You that is you exists in all those frequencies, and beyond what we call the astral.
Quoteif I change my focus to the astral "me" the physical "me" falls asleep (or it is in a state in which its not capable of taking action).
I believe that when we speak of focus we are speaking of consciousness.  I would say that when our consciousness focus leaves our bodies, (ie. we fall asleep) the unconscious mind kicks in, in our bodies, while our conscious mind is focused 'somewhere' else.
Quotedoes that mean that while I have the focus on my physical "me" the astral "me" is asleep in the astral plane? if not then what do the astral "me"s  do all the time?
I think when your consciousness is focused on the physical, your astral body just is, perhaps guided by your higher self, or perhaps as you said, is just 'being'.  But it could just have it's own prerogative (like when you dream you remember something that happened to you, just not  actual 'you'.)  Maybe the type of 'mind' our astral bodies have is the same mind that you access when you 'remember' things that haven't actually happened to actual 'you'.
I don't think 'sleep' applies, because it's something our bodies do.  But it bears thinking about.
Of course, stuff this deep is only speculation, but experience does support it. (mine, of course.)

Awakened_Mind

Quote from: Naharo on December 20, 2006, 06:06:49
The best moments in my life have been when I felt like I was on the verge of dying

When we accept death, we are most alive.

-AM
Truth exists beyond the dimension of thought.