How would you classify this experience?

[Eagle]

I've been working on OOBE/AP for several months but have not had a *definite* OOB yet.  I can get vibrations easily, can deeply relax easily, etc.  However I just came across this site last week and have found I'm probably generally doing "phasing" to a small extent (didn't know what that was called previously).  I can get to the "3d-Blackness" state on occasion but didn't understand what to do once there.

Anyhow...yesterday after waking up, I went back to bed and tried to "phase" using the Monroe gateway cd as Frank describes.  I didn't get very far, so decided to turn on my side and take a nap. 

I quickly had light vibrations, but didn't really try any exit technique this time.  I've tried the rope, log rolling, sitting up, and floating up but none worked previously.  However, I found myself spontaneously "flipping" up and out of my body, feet-over-head.  Wasn't expecting it at all...and especially not by flipping up!

I immediate realized I was OOB, was looking down, and floating sideways towards a wall and I remember thinking "I wonder if I'll float through the wall?"  However, next thing I knew I was lying on the floor of my bedroom.  Then my wife and a son walked in and I asked what was wrong and she told me he was sick and had to come home from school (this was not happening in real time however...he was still at school and she was downstairs).  She went to the bathroom and I thought I was woken up from my first OOB ever.  Then, I flipped up and out again, but landed back on the floor.  My wife came over and we interacted for about a minute, then she went back into the bathroom.  I then realized I was laying on my side...and started to wonder if this was even really happening or not, so I decided to try opening my eyes.  I was able to do so, and found myself back on my bed on my side and awake for real this time.

If this was just a dream, it was certainly the most vivid and real dream I have EVER had (although I've never achieved a lucid dream).  The feeling of coming out of body was pretty much exactly how I expected it to feel.  However, the situations with my wife/son obviously were not happening in real time.  Oh...after telling my son about it, I realized I never moved myself at all (I have read others that bumble around the first time out, or bonk their heads on celing, etc.  I never even thought to attempt to move or walk around.)

So...I'm wondering if I just had a vivid dream, had a lucid dream (although I didn't cause ANYTHING to happen on my own), or maybe I projected into my subconscious (Frank's Focus 2 I think?).  Or maybe it was a true OBE but in a different time?

In any case, I now feel like I know what the OBE feeling from the vibrations feel like, but was like to hear what some experienced travelers think occurred.

Thanks for your help!

[Greytraveller]

Hi Eagle
What you described certainly Appears to have been OBEs. Confusion and uncertainty are commonly experienced by people while having their very first OBE. What is unusual, however, is the meeting that you had with your wife and son. Normally such an encounter can be explained as a meeting with a family member(s) who were also out of body themselves during either an OBE or an unconscious OBE (= dream). Yet since both your wife and son were awake at that time I don't know who or what you encountered. Other than that though, your 2 OBEs were rather 'classic' first time projections.
Regards 
Grey

[Eagle]

Thanks for the reply, Grey!

Well...this week I had my first ever Lucid Dream, and it was quite a bit different than my experience above, so I guess I can rule out and LD for my previous question.

I've been trying for a lucid dream for over 20 years, so I'm very excited to have finally experienced one!  It took about 15 oddities and my mentioning to someone else or myself that "that's weird" about something in the dream, along with 2 different dream scenarios before I FINALLY had awareness.  And I'll be damned if it wasn't 30 seconds later that my phone rang and woke me up, lol!!!

[Greytraveller]

Eagle, Exactly what you said --Lucid dreams are NOT OBEs. Many inexperienced and first time projectors get them confused but they are Not the same experience. A lucid dream is being aware of being in a dream. Now sometimes the consciousness while out of body is distorted and confusing but is, in fact, unlike the lucid dream consciousness.
However, the two different states of consciousness can sometimes roughly border one another and it is quite possible for a person to induce an OBE while having a lucid dream.
Regards 
Grey