DMT

[planeride]

Let me first start off by saying in no way do I recomend this drug to kids.
I'm an adult that made the decision to try it, and for the right reason.
I didn't do it bc lsd is cool, or mushrooms are fun.
I did this strickly to open the pineal glad third eye and experience the fourth dimension.
And wow, did it work.
Its like, life made sence after that! I saw God, strait up. God is a motherly love being, filled with light
And energy, and conciencness it was amazing. She kept saying, come on home, come on.
And showed me this light, it was bright bright white yet not blinding.
Surrounded by an orange and amber red light as well.
I kept my eyes closed most of the time. I wasent interested in physic visuals.
One thing that opened my mind too, is that there were beings there.
I couldn't see them but I felt them and saw them with my third eye.
They were very real. I feel like they were the shadowy people there when I'm in
SP. still greyish, and hard to figure faces out. But I felt it was the same shadow people
But this time I felt love. I wasent afraid anymore.
The love I felt and oneness with the universs has changed my life forever.
I honestly don't even see my religion the same anymore.
I see God in a completely new way. And I know God is real,  and frankly very womanly and motherly.
We're all conscience beings vibrating at different octaves trying to get back to the
Light and knowledge that we all came from.
The smal weird "ASTRAL CHILLS" I've had all my life, and weird random thoughts of dejavu all came together
As one. Like all those moments came together and fit a puzzle.
Everything made sence yesterday and came together.

Thanks for letting me vent. Yall are the omly ones who really understand

[sunshaker]

I know alot of people do not agree with any drug taking, BUT, I watched dmt the spirit moleculehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9AHa9YXmM which i found very interesting, Dmt is the language of plant communication and can be found throughout nature, It plays a big part in many cultures Brazil but one, Who use the plant (ayahuasca) for there rituals, There are also studies being done on dmt which under right circumstances may be a help with many psychological problems AND helping those with cancer come to terms with dying.

I have thought about trying ayahuasca, I believe it is not something one should try or contemplate at a young age, I believe one should only try this later on in life when they are able to cope and have a good all round sense of being, BECAUSE IT WILL CHANGE YOU FOREVER.

I already see and sense what Dmt seems to reveal, All I will say this is on my "bucket list".

 

[no_leaf_clover]

I can't wait to try some ayahuasca myself.

OP, you said DMT so I'm guessing that you didn't travel to the Amazon. 

Mushrooms are another powerful teacher.

[Fusions]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiDtnePSBdU

[no_leaf_clover]

If you find any good Amazon retreats, pass it along.  

I've been eyeing this one, but it's $1200 for two weeks there.

http://www.elpurguero.com/

It's in Peru.  The shaman is actually an American who lives in the Peruvian Amazon now.  But for 2 weeks you get 4 ayahuasca ceremonies, and an opportunity to try san pedro, and they offer you a mud bath and provide your food and shelter and all that.

The YouTube channel "London Real" has about a 2 hour interview up with a guy who went to this retreat, and he explains what all happened there in lots of detail.  

[Stillwater]

4 ceremonies in 2 weeks... that sounds a bit intense for a person with no prior experience more than likely, considering how intense one experience may be under the right conditions.

[Fusions]

4 ceremonies in 2 weeks... that sounds a bit intense for a person with no prior experience more than likely, considering how intense one experience may be under the right conditions.

They often do like 3 or more

[no_leaf_clover]

that sounds a bit intense

Everything there is optional.  You can skip some or all of the ceremonies, the mud bath or whatever you don't feel like doing.  But of course I'd be trying to get my $1200 worth.   

[Fusions]

I'd ask to do one every night!! 

It would be very interesting to hear your report about it hah

[Newoldsoul]

$1,200 or $12,000?

[no_leaf_clover]

12 Day Workshop

From now on Ayahuasca retreats at El Purguero will be starting on the 1st Monday of the following months; January, April, July, October

    Oje purge
    4 ayahuasca ceremonies
    4 plant baths
    Circle meetings with Ron
    Chacapa making workshop
    Mud bath
    All meals & accommodation.
    Jungle Walks
    Walk to Bush Master snake research center

It's recommended that you bring some art supplies with you. Ayahuasca is known to increase creativity!

Cost: $1200 per workshop.

http://www.elpurguero.com/el-purguero-retreat.asp#.U_wrpNbXoxA

[Newoldsoul]

Future vacajourneycation being planned starting now!

[jadrian70]

This thread got me into an interesting conversation at work.   Like others, I'm intrigued and began pondering a trip to Peru, but I found the costs prohibitive for now.  Plus I'm no fan of long plane rides.

Is anyone familiar with 5-meo-DMT?  A coworker was telling me that she and her friends used to go out to the Phoenix golf courses at night, after a heavy rain, and collect frogs.  Sonoran desert toads, to be specific.  When frightened/threatened, the frogs excrete a toxin that contains 5-meo-DMT, that can be dried and then smoked.

I spent the long labor day weekend Googling and You-tubing and read a lot of interesting stuff.   The 5-meo-DMT is supposedly more potent than N, N-DMT, in that it takes less medicine to achieve an experience.  And it's more accessible and considerably less expensive than a trip to Peru.

[Bluefirephoenix]

I think that is likely to make you very sick. Your using a defensive venom of the animal  .  The path your trying to take is a shamanic path which is initiatory. A lot of the meaning and spiritual connection from the experience come from the events and work leading up to the experience with the spirit. Please consider this . In the same website you'll find everything related to plants and shamanic tools which are used in this way.  Ask yourself when you read the accounts are these people any better for what they experienced. Have they gained any skills from it or learned to be better people for it?
http://www.erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/almost.htm

[Stillwater]

Most hallucinogens, including Ayahuasca actually, make people sick. While Ayahuasca under the supervision of experienced practitioners is one of the safest paths with this stuff, it still has its costs too. Many people will empty their stomachs, and because you are ingesting plants which aren't really food, there is still the chance of allergic reactions.

Note this statement is not encouragement to keep doing the frog thing, lol, but rather a warning that none of this is without costs or risks.

[jadrian70]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doing any frog recon anytime soon.    Though I do envy the OPs experience and would like to try it myself one day.

I just find the subject fascinating in that it seems this physical form/focus acts as a filter or control mechanism for our larger consciousness, yet these substances seem to disrupt that filter and allow a brief glimpse into what may or may not be 'reality'. 

[Xanth]

These physical bodies merely provide constraints through which we function within this particular reality frame.
These physical chemicals alter those constraints slightly to make perceiving "other" a little easier. 

That's my excuse at least.  LoL 

[Fusions]

These physical bodies merely provide constraints through which we function within this particular reality frame.
These physical chemicals alter those constraints slightly to make perceiving "other" a little easier. 

That's my excuse at least.  LoL 

I agree.

The ET 'Bashar' channeled by Darryl Anka (very interesting, check it on youtube) claims that humans are often called 'masters of limitation' because of the high degree of contraints we put on ourselves

[no_leaf_clover]

These physical bodies merely provide constraints through which we function within this particular reality frame.
These physical chemicals alter those constraints slightly to make perceiving "other" a little easier. 

That's my excuse at least.  LoL 

I've been trying to put together a little notebook on the computer that I can print out and bind into a physical book, of all kinds of notes from different spiritual traditions that I'm otherwise likely to forget.  One of the more interesting things I came across from Dale Pendell's books is the idea of the "poison path," and everything is poison, "the dose makes the poison."  People have actually died from drinking too much water at once, and also being in a 100% oxygen environment is deadly, so water, oxygen and even sunlight can all kill you if you take too much of them.

Though even those three basic things can kill us, people eat McDonalds hamburgers, drink sodas, and these things are not only far worse for the body but also bad for your mind and the way consciousness is channeled into your body.  So by comparison many psychedelics are not physically toxic and can do great things for the way your consciousness interfaces with your body.  And if you're like me then you also believe that lots of consciousness in the body is key to being healthy in the first place, not the other way around. 

The "trick" of course is to be responsible and to exercise a certain amount of moderation in all things.  Having said that, there are many substances I would never try, like jimson weed, or any of several infamous, non-psychedelic things that people sometimes have difficulties with.  But that's just my choice and my belief system


I love how things that Bashar has said in videos can be dropped here without people becoming incredulous and offended.  We may already have ET views being brought into our discussions and the exopolitics of it is perfectly fine.  XD

[Xanth]

I've been trying to put together a little notebook on the computer that I can print out and bind into a physical book, of all kinds of notes from different spiritual traditions that I'm otherwise likely to forget.  One of the more interesting things I came across from Dale Pendell's books is the idea of the "poison path," and everything is poison, "the dose makes the poison."  People have actually died from drinking too much water at once, and also being in a 100% oxygen environment is deadly, so water, oxygen and even sunlight can all kill you if you take too much of them.

That's why I have my own website.  I started it to get my thoughts down in a place where I could control it... since the Pulse crashed once and I lost a lot of ideas.

I love how things that Bashar has said in videos can be dropped here without people becoming incredulous and offended.  We may already have ET views being brought into our discussions and the exopolitics of it is perfectly fine.  XD

I'm honestly NOT a big fan of Bashar... not that that changes anything at all.  Some of the information he shares is positive and beneficial, so honestly, while I think he's faking it... it doesn't matter, because the source isn't what's important.  What's important is whether the information you receive from where ever is beneficial to you.

I don't see any information as coming from an alien source... we're ALL consciousness, as such it comes from "us".

[no_leaf_clover]

I'm honestly NOT a big fan of Bashar... not that that changes anything at all.  Some of the information he shares is positive and beneficial, so honestly, while I think he's faking it... it doesn't matter, because the source isn't what's important.  What's important is whether the information you receive from where ever is beneficial to you.

Right, and a lot of what he's said really has stuck with me.  I've noticed before that if you took out the alien aspect of the Bashar videos, this guy would just be a really, really good therapist. But then again the whole ET aspect of it is what makes it so intriguing to people to allow them to consider the information in the first place.  If it was just a guy on YouTube making general counseling and self-empowering videos in a normal voice it wouldn't be as interesting.

[Xanth]

Right, and a lot of what he's said really has stuck with me.  I've noticed before that if you took out the alien aspect of the Bashar videos, this guy would just be a really, really good therapist. But then again the whole ET aspect of it is what makes it so intriguing to people to allow them to consider the information in the first place.  If it was just a guy on YouTube making general counseling and self-empowering videos in a normal voice it wouldn't be as interesting.

hehe Exactly. 

I watched a video of an interview with only DARRYL, not Bashar.  And honestly, it was so much better than any video of him channeling Bashar. 
Which leads me to the point I made above, that what's important is the information, not the source.  This also relates entirely to Projection too... whereby it doesn't matter what the source of your projections are, if they're beneficial to you, then that's the point.

[Fusions]

I'm honestly NOT a big fan of Bashar... not that that changes anything at all.  Some of the information he shares is positive and beneficial, so honestly, while I think he's faking it... it doesn't matter, because the source isn't what's important.  What's important is whether the information you receive from where ever is beneficial to you.

I don't see any information as coming from an alien source... we're ALL consciousness, as such it comes from "us".

That's exactly what they say aswell, 'it doesn't matter, because the source isn't what's important.  What's important is whether the information you receive from where ever is beneficial to you.'.

'I don't see any information as coming from an alien source... we're ALL consciousness, as such it comes from "us".'
They say something like that all the time, 'We are just being reflections for your own higher mind, we're not really teaching you, you are simply remembering what you already know

So good to see that you are on the same wavelength on that matter, now fair enough that you think he's faking it, that's fine ofcourse however I want to bring you some arguments as to why I don't see it that way:

I have watched over 60 hours of his talks, everytime some one asked him something about anything, they get an instant, good and detailed answer.
His information can be general and a bit abstract but it can also be very precise, I've seen plenty of scientists and doctors walk away happy with what they got from him.

So if he's faking it, he is one of the smartest people on the planet because of the way he acts and because of the information he can give, but I don't belief for a second that so much wisdom comes from a man who is faking it.

That said, I can understand your view

[Machine1k]

Two things..

1st, about the DMT, I really want to try it, but since I live in the US, not very easy to get a hold of.  That being said, I am going to try Salvia Divinorum (Legal in most US states) which is the next best thing as long as its used responsibly like all drugs.  Some prefer Salvia as it doesn't get you as sick form use and its sometimes easier to experience the non-physical.  The experiences are shorter though, 10 minutes from what I hear and your body doesn't shut down (sleep paralysis) so a sitter is recommended so you don't walk around and get hurt by something.

2nd, about Bashar.. I seen an interview on youtube with Darryl (not Bashar) and although he is his channel, he has some interesting perspective on who Bashar is.  He mentions that Bashar might not be an alien (he says who knows really) but it could just be he has an open door directly to his high self he it presents itself as Bashar or his second theory is that Bashar and him share the same soul or high self; this point sounds somewhat plausible since Bashar is ~300 years into the future or was that the past?.. who knows.  Anyways, fake or not, he message is what I am more interested in and there is nothing for me to have to call BS on when I hear it.

[Xanth]

Sorry, but we're just currently discussing the nature of these kinds of posts.

Temporarily locking it per the other one.