The Astral Pulse

Hi,

From literature, I found that many, if not the most, OBE experts have OBEs since childhood, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Dmitri.

nah - - age shouldn't matter.  Some might argue that it's EASIER when you're a kid . . . because as a child you have fewer inhibitions!

Always be careful about what you read . . . even here on this forum . . . pay close attention to what other people report as EXPERIENCES and be eternally suspicious of "authorities" who don't demonstrate their knowledge through their personal experiences . . .

blessings,


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

In one of the two interviews Robert Bruce had on the Art Bell show (July 2002) he said that younger people have a more active energy body than an adult. He said that people often have memories of spontaneous projections from when they were much younger and still cannot re-create the experience.

I read that the physical body's first seven years are the most critical, and then the etheric body for the next seven. Then the astral body for the next seven. After the first 21 years the mental body develops. After the first 49 years, the cycle starts over. The physical body and the base chakra. Life begins at 50.

A while back I read that in astrology, Saturn goes back to where it was on the natal chart (a chart of the planets at the time and place of birth). The Saturn return. It takes about 29 years. It is supposed to be a profoundly transformative experience. It happens again in another 29 or so years, and again in another 29 or so years if the person lives long enough.

There are many different cycles. There are always going to be different sorts of second chances if you do not succeed the first time.

I personally believe that the very young and very old have the easiest time with projection.

Kubler Ross has said that the 'spiritual quadrant' is wide open for the young and the old. In between, I believe, is the hardest for psychic experience and projection.

Tom - My baby died when I was 29. Transformative indeed. Now I need to see what Saturn represents.



Patty

I'm also 17. Have been trying to have OBE for about 4 weeks. I actually had my first OBE for 2 days ago I guess. It only lasted for about 10 seconds though . I couldn't even see when I was out of my body (weird)...

But it's nice to see people here at my age .
Keep trying.

Yeah i'm 16 and have been trying for about 1 week.  NOTHING. I'll keep at it......

I've been trying for quite a while and I still can't get it.

Do you know if I should have some form of concrete meditation background before I attempt to AP? I have mainly been focusing on mediation recently. I am very good at meditating and can go into a trance but when I try and AP I always become restless, my breath quickens and I come out of meditation. Am I trying too hard or something?

Any advice?

Greetings Azrioch,

Meditation is certainly an excellent discipline, not only for OBE but for the body, Soul and Spirit generally!

I think your problem might be that you are trying to OBE rather than phase. OBE requires alot of external effort in exteriorising awareness, climbing ropes etc., while phasing is a natural extension to meditation and does not require anything more than concentration.

I suggest you read some of the "sticky" topics in this forum for more information on this. If you can achieve the trance state, you are most of the way there.

With best regards,

Adrian.

i don't think it has anything to do with age.  i'm only 13 and i've successfully had an OBE once.  it took about 3 months of work though.  i'm still working with it a lot and through that, i've learned a lot of other stuff.  i've mastered auras and sending energy.  it just takes some practice and concentration

i would try and project in the past and would into some similar problems.  i found that the restlesness came from some physical tension that i would produce when exit sensations started to show.  they were so slight that i didn't notice them at first.  likewise, the increase in breathing was a result of me just thinking that i should be breathing faster because it felt like my heart was beating faster when it wasn't.  also the excitement tends to make you want to breath shallower.  it may help to be aware that your breathing doesn't have to change at all.   remember that when you are asleep, and projecting is at it's most effortless, that you're breathing is soft and slow.

agreed about the not noticing the tensions.  For me my first conscious OBE happened quite randomly, without my even willing it.  It was almost as if my double, my spirit, whatever one may call it, were wanting so badly to tear away from my body, but my fear kept it from leaving because of how odd a sensation it was.  I was watching TV and my muscles kept randomly spasming as if I was cold.  I knew I Wasn't, though, that it was just a mood...I was in the trance state, but obviously not deeply relaxed.  Then I thought about my muscles, and remembered I could control them, and my comfort.  So, I sat comfortably, relaxed and suddenly I was floating above my body about four inches out.  I didn't do much, because I immediately noticed other beings around me in a similar dimension(s), so I just floated there, amazed for a while, and then dropped back in to drive home.  I probably floated in and out for 45 minutes.  It was quite interesting indeed!  
peace
p.s. I was 22 when it happened

Just a few days ago I was talking to a friend of mine about an Israeli gal, here on this forum, (and very young as I recall), who had to wait a whopping two weeks to have her first obe.  A Canadian responded to her, reminding her of how she was ready to give up after only a week of getting nowhere, but through perseverence she waited TWICE AS LONG!!!! and got that first obe!  (If you're reading this, Israeli gal, I hope you are having continual success and don't find this offensive.) Well, I started trying for the first time in 2001, I think.  Let it slide for a while.  And then started more aggressively last spring.  Today I just posted my first obe in this forum.  I'm 49. And didn't RB write about how he had obe's as a child, and then his first one as an adult was much more difficult?  Frankly, I just don't know about this age thing, but it would seem to make sense that if we get stuck in ruts, and/or allow our lives to atrophy in ways, then it's just going to affect quality of life all across the board.  You don't have to be getting "old" to get stuck in a rut, either.  This morning I was told something interesting about "age", as follows:

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by the way the fact that we call age "old" programs our subconscious to get older and older. I am serious here!. In times of old and older languages they used to say "I am the son of 40, 50 years or whatever. No "old" there. And their live span often reached 100 and more (see Flavius about the Essenes).
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--Paukki

--Paukki

I read somewhere (I think Astralvoyage.com) that the younger you are the harder it is because the etheric energy has a stronger hold to the physical body. The older you are the easier it is to have an OBE. Also if you´re sick you can supposetdly have an OBE easier than when you are well.

I´m only 17. I´ve been trying for quite a while and have not been able to get one yet. I´ve had quite a few lucid dreams in the past few days but as of now no OBEs.

Thanks.


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