Does it feel real ? and Can i learn ?

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Zino

As the title says, Does it feel real when you are in an AP ? or is it like an unknown feeling until you have done it ?

And my second question, can I learn while im in the astral ? Can I go back to when I was in the classroom and hear what I would have missed otherwise ? and is going forward in time possible ?


Thanks, Zino.
Do by not Doing.

Genie

Zino, it feels as real as this world does and most the time even more so.  Lately I've been experiencing animated cartoon type worlds and this has been very odd and different for me.  I don't understand it yet.
What I have learned is that time and space do not really exist as we experience them here.  It's an interesting illusion that we create to have an experience of time and space and that we do this in our dreams also.  So if you desired to go backward or forward in time, I see no reason why you couldn't create that, but I have found that there are so many pasts and futures that a person could make up any one they want for everything is created from now.  This is of course only my opinion.   :-)

Zino

no,no. Opinion or not that was very insightful, I love hearing what I will be able to do, but the only thing is I want what I see to be real rather than conjured by the mind, apart from some circumstances.

Anyhow, though it has left me pondering, thanks.
Do by not Doing.

Zante

If you ever have one of these experiences, the first feelings you get will be of shock and alarm. You can 'practice' techniques which will increase the regularity at which they occur but it is more than likely that you will never get to any meaningful level. The classroom scenario is light years away, there might be people who can do that sort of thing at will but they don't frequent places like this because they can see clearly that there's a lot of confusion and ego.

If you have an interest in this, then that's enough. My first conscious experience came after I spent a good deal of time mocking the idea.

To go further into your classroom scenario, it will never happen. It's too mundane, you will have other things on your mind when you find yourself in this state. You will have other things to contend with, fears, desires, ideals etc... It will take many experiences before you can even begin to take hold.

vladjackguy

Quote from: Genie on April 27, 2009, 14:59:30
Zino, it feels as real as this world does and most the time even more so.  Lately I've been experiencing animated cartoon type worlds and this has been very odd and different for me.  I don't understand it yet.
What I have learned is that time and space do not really exist as we experience them here.  It's an interesting illusion that we create to have an experience of time and space and that we do this in our dreams also.  So if you desired to go backward or forward in time, I see no reason why you couldn't create that, but I have found that there are so many pasts and futures that a person could make up any one they want for everything is created from now.  This is of course only my opinion.   :-)
That's what's chronokinesis based on there is no space and time it's only created by man.Time can be dilated or contracted as the way u like or as the way it is.
Chronokinesis takes a time to practice and makes your brain learn that the time is an illusion and then u can mold time.
You can at people who had NDE that they perfectly understand how is it without time and space.
Easy to say hard to do :roll:

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Vibra

Realer than real if that makes sense. Colors feelings senses are all on an exaggerated level. 
Learn... hmmm interesting. I guess it all depends on exactly what you are trying to take back from the experience. We have the ability to learn on a constant basis again it all depends upon what you perceive as a learning experience
Be well
Vibra

Zino

Learn as in..go back to a time and try to reconise the things you did not look at in detail back then.
Do by not Doing.

Anaghia

Definately feels real. During my first memorable projection, I accidently slipped on some ice (lol). My spirit quickly returned to my body, and I woke up, feeling the realistic shock of falling.

So yeah, it's basically as real as the real world... but better.  :wink: