astral projection in your neighborhood, but its diffrent

[izalco]

Ok. dont know if anyone has had this...

your dreaming, Aping, ect,ect...what ever you want to call it

your in your neighborhood, but things are different.

i had a AP/Dream,ect... last night where I was in my neighborhood, and there was a train where there isn't one... and someone said, you never knew there was a train here? how long you been here? Why is this?

i dont understand, I do believe people can have OBE's, but this whole idea of a magical word called the astral plane just doesnt make sense. if its a real place, shouldnt it be the same for us all?

[Guthwulf]

Not at all.  The astral plane, to my understanding, at least the one you typically visit while in "obe/AP" mode is a astral version of our world, but is created by thought.  So straight away it is subject to individual interpretation.

The big rule of thumb there seems to be "thought is action".  So the fact that you saw a train could just be someone elses memory of a time when there WAS a train there.  Or it could have been your own or someone elses dream just for fun.

Or on an even different level, it could have been placed there by a higher entity as some kind of lesson stage or exdperience for you.

The whole Astral experience is relative to thought and interpretation.

Hope that is understandable lol..

[izalco]

Not at all.  The astral plane, to my understanding, at least the one you typically visit while in "obe/AP" mode is a astral version of our world, but is created by thought.  So straight away it is subject to individual interpretation.

The big rule of thumb there seems to be "thought is action".  So the fact that you saw a train could just be someone elses memory of a time when there WAS a train there.  Or it could have been your own or someone elses dream just for fun.

Or on an even different level, it could have been placed there by a higher entity as some kind of lesson stage or exdperience for you.

The whole Astral experience is relative to thought and interpretation.

Hope that is understandable lol..

well it doesn make sense. because if its by thought then we have created this world, in our mind..... and thats just a dream?

[guest101]

[color=red]well it doesn make sense. because if its by thought then we have created this world, in our mind..... and thats just a dream?[/color]
Izalco, your exactly right. This was a dream and only a dream. these wackos will never respond to you when you don't agree that it was a "supernatural incident". This kind of hokey pokey, cult type stuff is for those who have no real meaning in their life and search for some other explanation. the fact is people have dreams, this is your mind going through the days events, your fantasies and anything that you have been thinking of throughout the day. So my advice is for you to seek god for answers and not these weirdos, that believe they can roam outside their bodies instead of realizing that its only a dream.

[-->PhenomenoN<--]

Yup, I can relate..
I've had many experiences where my neighboorhood/community/house looks different.  I even had one where my whole lil community was on fire...I'm not too sure the reason but yeah.

I think they're created by our emotions, our thoughts, our intentions, etc..all working simultaneously.

[izalco]

[color=red]well it doesn make sense. because if its by thought then we have created this world, in our mind..... and thats just a dream?[/color]
Izalco, your exactly right. This was a dream and only a dream. these wackos will never respond to you when you don't agree that it was a "supernatural incident". This kind of hokey pokey, cult type stuff is for those who have no real meaning in their life and search for some other explanation. the fact is people have dreams, this is your mind going through the days events, your fantasies and anything that you have been thinking of throughout the day. So my advice is for you to seek god for answers and not these weirdos, that believe they can roam outside their bodies instead of realizing that its only a dream.

yes, while I do think many people are confusing dreams with AP, there is something out there that is real, god talking to you where god shows you future events, but when that happens you will know it not a dream.

i for one had something shown to me that came true, but it was unlike anything I ever saw in a "dream' per say. it was mostly like a series of events... almost surround in clouds, foggy and stuff...  some AP author called it 'future winds"..where you are taken away from a normal dream...and shown future events.... but alot of people are talking dreams for astral projection. I dont understand this concept "astral projection".... like at will you can not be shown future events... while you can have an OBE, which I think I have had some... its strange, most dreams are just dreams...

also, all these focus levels are really just fragmented levels of consciousness, in other words, yes god will show you things of future events when god wants to, but i seriously doubt anybody can bring these things up at will like turning on a light switch...

[Doch]

You are right. Apologies.

[Potatis]

Please don't feed the troll. Ignore their post.