One of my motivations is to visit other worlds and see what other life is out there. I'm not interested in greys, nordics, reptilians etc, there's so much crap we've collectively attached to those concepts, and IMO if anything is real about them they are just expressions of our own planet in different times/dimensions. I believe there is all kinds of life on different levels, but I'm talking about the physical here...
I want to see alien worlds with real aliens, dudes just going about their business. Maybe they are not humanoid at all. Maybe they have six limbs and don't walk upright. Maybe they don't even have technology. Maybe they are not even sentient. I'd love to just see what lives in an alien biosphere. That kind of thing is a real interest of mine. Given the number of life-supporting planets believed to exist even in our own physical galaxy, there should be a lot of worlds out there to choose from...
Has anyone had any experiences in this area, or would consider it an experiment to try out? I'd love to read about it. Maybe I'll see for myself tonight :)
Well according to the "Drake Equation" there could possibly be around 10,000 other alien civilizations at any given time in our galaxy. Let alone "alien biospheres" of which there is probly 10s of thousands more planets. There is also an estimated 10 billion galaxies in our known universe. So 10 thousand times 10 billion equals 100 trillion (i think). So in our individual physical universe there is theoretically 100 trillion intelligent civilizations for you to contact. So who knows what's out there, but if there's really that many civilizations then one would think it is fairly easy to contact some of them from the astral. Though to be honest, I take the Drake Equation with a grain of salt, in my opinion it is VERY theoretical.
If these "beings" exist at all, I believe the search for them should begin in other dimensions. :)
Quote from: Daftpanzer on April 24, 2010, 17:04:13I want to see alien worlds with real aliens, dudes just going about their business. Maybe they are not humanoid at all. Maybe they have six limbs and don't walk upright. Maybe they don't even have technology. Maybe they are not even sentient. I'd love to just see what lives in an alien biosphere. That kind of thing is a real interest of mine. Given the number of life-supporting planets believed to exist even in our own physical galaxy, there should be a lot of worlds out there to choose from...
it gets me when people ignore simple observations and expect to find some kind of Dr. Seuss planet out there
zareste what are you saying exactly?
I believe the physical universe is teeming with life. I have more faith in that I do in the ability to reliably project around the physical. Now maybe intelligent life is quite rare, or there is a tendency to evolve spiritually rather than technologically, or we are in some kind of quarantine, and/or we are being visited in a very controlled way. But I just KNOW its full of life.
I want to think bigger and get out of established UFO mythology etc to see whats really out there.
Read some of this guys experiences: http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/
I cant vouch for how much of that is true though.
And yup, I too believe universe is teeming with life. Why do you think NASA seems so fascinated with Mars?? If it was just a desolate planet, then why the constant trips going back there?? They know a lot more than they're letting on IMO
Dear AstralBeginnings,
you'd be baffled to see how many hidden extraterrestrials are here on and off Earth (between here and the moon).
I strongly recommend not to try and contact them and some of them simply do not possess in their minds the kind of morals that humans have for each other.
kind regards,
Paul
Mr. Hawkins agrees with Tiny... :-)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7107207.ece)
I also agree that the universe is probably teaming with life. It takes alot more time for a civilization or intelligent species to evolve into a interdimensional being, so I would think the physical universe(s) would have a much greater amount of native intelligent species then anywhere else. Then again, the physical universe is at least 15billion years old, so there has been plenty of time for species to evolve interdimensionally before we even appeared on Earth (as the human species is only about 100-200 thousand years old). Of course, that is assuming not many species naturally appear and evolve within other dimensions, I'm just guessing most life evolves from the bottom (physical) upward.
Quote from: cpt. picard on April 25, 2010, 16:40:25
I also agree that the universe is probably teaming with life. It takes alot more time for a civilization or intelligent species to evolve into a interdimensional being, so I would think the physical universe(s) would have a much greater amount of native intelligent species then anywhere else. Then again, the physical universe is at least 15billion years old, so there has been plenty of time for species to evolve interdimensionally before we even appeared on Earth (as the human species is only about 100-200 thousand years old). Of course, that is assuming not many species naturally appear and evolve within other dimensions, I'm just guessing most life evolves from the bottom (physical) upward.
We're *already* inter-dimensional beings...
Are you talking about being "physical" and having the technology to jump between dimensions without having the knowledge that we're spiritual beings already?
Perhaps we are, I'm willing to bet we are in fact. But we are not counciously aware of our interdimensional existence, nor do we know how to operate within it, as a whole (not everyone?). It could be physically travelling between different dimentions, or "evolving" into different dimensions, either way humanity as a whole is not in control of either of these two things at this point in time. Our main state of being is still mostly physical, I was assuming what you meant by other dimentions, you meant we should search for life in nonphysical or supraphysical dimensions. Judging by the wide variety of life on earth, one could theorize that theyre may very well be some civilizations who do possess technology without spiritual knowledge, just as many societies in our own history possessed spiritual knowledge before technological. Any outcome is possible with evolution especially in such theoretical applications of it (as we can only theorize about evolution that our own society has not gone through yet).
Here's a slideshow to show you a slice of the history of alien encounter and abduction here on Earth from the last 50 or so years
which evidence most of society has managed to ignore until this day since it neither fits into the modern world picture of
pseudo-scientific darwinism nor the traditional religions tho some of the now surfacing new-age religions are beginning to align with some of the knowledge available about the alien presence.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AgentJoannaDark#p/u/5/nIDNUmtVdAY
It may be of interest to you that a mantide alien sitting beside his bed was one of the first things Robert Bruce (Astral Dynamics) encountered in his OBEs.
So before your BS-alarm goes off prematurely you may just want to shut up and wait until you get to see them with your own eyes.
QuoteOne of my motivations is to visit other worlds and see what other life is out there. I'm not interested in greys, nordics, reptilians etc
So you want to know about the extraterrestrials but then you don't. :lol:
kind regards,
Paul
Xanth -
Your comments are always so spot on it cracks me up. :-D
We all ARE aliens. And for some of us, aliens to our own selves.
Daftpanzer -
Don't fear the aliens. Fear won't help. When you project state "I want to meet an alien". Draw a picture of what you find and post it. I wanna see an "alien" too! :-o
Hey I just think that your typical greys, nordics, repitllians etc all represent EARTH in different times and realities, and/or aspects of collective consciousness. There's so much BS out there about this, I'm not going to believe from a distance, nor do I want to entangle myself with those ideas.
I guess what I'm talking about is more like this:
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5660/slynesaliens.png)
Or this:
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3355/kinetodiruscranioclasta.jpg)
Now that is fun. There absolutely has to be somethings out there like that. Why wait for advanced space travel within this dimension when you might just as well travel OBE. I'm all for it. Say hi to Gene Roddenberry.
Cheers!
QuoteThere's so much BS out there about this
Yeah thanks for handing us some of it
I think crop circles give us many clues into the existence of "aliens". We simply cannot explain where these come from or what they mean. Yes, some are hoaxed, but many are not. Check out the Milk Hill 2009 formation in the link. One day, we will know what this means. I wish that day would come sooner than later.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.colinandrews.net/sitebuilder/images/2009-0621-England-MilkHill-RussellStannard-386x252.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html&usg=__btU7g0J_-nsTVMoJPVA4xvzEiVQ=&h=252&w=386&sz=18&hl=en&start=13&sig2=AVj0iNgHmq5Q34MlA5Ht2A&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=wK88nlE53AlwAM:&tbnh=80&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmilk%2Bhill%2Bcrop%2Bcircle%2B2009%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=d_bYS57tK4P98AaJku20BQ (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.colinandrews.net/sitebuilder/images/2009-0621-England-MilkHill-RussellStannard-386x252.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.colinandrews.net/Crop-Circles-2009.html&usg=__btU7g0J_-nsTVMoJPVA4xvzEiVQ=&h=252&w=386&sz=18&hl=en&start=13&sig2=AVj0iNgHmq5Q34MlA5Ht2A&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=wK88nlE53AlwAM:&tbnh=80&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmilk%2Bhill%2Bcrop%2Bcircle%2B2009%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=d_bYS57tK4P98AaJku20BQ)
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Quote from: zareste on April 28, 2010, 22:51:49
Yeah thanks for handing us some of it
So, you admit that some of it is crap?
How do you categorize what's real and what isn't?
I agree with Xanth that other dimensions may be the place to look. In the physical the distances involved are just too vast to bother developing the technology to travel that way. Even if you can get to the speed of light, it would still take tens of thousands of years to move significant distances through just our own galaxy. Maybe warp drives and wormholes could help, but why bother with all that? Beyond the physical, space/time is not an obstacle, so technology which allows matter (ships?) to phase in and out of the other dimensions is surely more likely. It may be as simple as altering the vibratory rate of matter in a similar way to astral projection/phasing. Quantum physics is already hinting that this sort of thing is theoretically possible. With that kind of model we don't have to seek out distant planets, because aliens can - and probably do - exist anywhere or everywhere.....
Quote from: nickspry on April 29, 2010, 11:31:05
I agree with Xanth that other dimensions may be the place to look. In the physical the distances involved are just too vast to bother developing the technology to travel that way. Even if you can get to the speed of light, it would still take tens of thousands of years to move significant distances through just our own galaxy. Maybe warp drives and wormholes could help, but why bother with all that? Beyond the physical, space/time is not an obstacle, so technology which allows matter (ships?) to phase in and out of the other dimensions is surely more likely. Quantum physics is already hinting that this sort of thing is theoretically possible. With that kind of model we don't have to seek out distant planets, because aliens can - and probably do - exist anywhere or everywhere.....
Frank postulated that there was an infinite number of alternate dimensions of physical realities out there.
He visited and merged with only a small handfuls. All of which you can read from his posts.
Each of these alternate realities comes complete with their own Focus 1, 2 and 3... all under the umbrella of Focus 4.
Sorry to lay down an AP faux pas, but Kurt was working on building a UFO. It used the energy generator concept that he works with to like raise the energy of the ship to the next density up for instantaneous travel. It was actually kind of interesting.
Yes, Im sure Kurt is building a UFO... After looking through you and Zareste's posts, I can hardly believe I've been arguing with some of the forums most delusional members.... :roll:
sorry
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Quote from: Xanth on April 29, 2010, 09:01:32
So, you admit that some of it is crap?
How do you categorize what's real and what isn't?
If Zareste believes it its real. If he does not you are a crackpot. That is literally the only basis he could possibly have for the arrogance he demonstrates daily.
Quote from: Capt. Picard on April 29, 2010, 15:58:31
Yes, Im sure Kurt is building a UFO... After looking through you and Zareste's posts, I can hardly believe I've been arguing with some of the forums most delusional members.... :roll:
Can you explain why it's delusional? We're only saying that this stuff may be possible based on what we (those who can project) already know about the nature of reality and other dimensions. Without that kind of hypothetical thinking we'd still be living in caves.
Most people who don't astral project think it's delusional in my experience.
Can you explain how it's not delusional? Hypothetical thinking and believing some of the junk Kurt says without any evidence whatsoever are two very different things. Anyways forget it.
I don't want to hear about someone's perpetual motion machine until it really exists.