Extremely Thrilling Experience (worth reading)

[Landshark]

I was taking a nap in a lodge that some friends and I were staying in. I projected and I floated over my friend who was napping in a bed beside mine. I grabbed my friend by the wrist feeling solid matter. I began to pull, hoping I could get him to astral project (bizarre, yes). I saw his spiritual arm coming out of his physical arm. It was yanked out of my hands and shot back into his physical arm. I saw his eyes jump open and he sat up really fast, looking scared. Instantly I was awoken by my friend making noise next to me. I looked over and he was sitting up. I asked him what happened and he said something along the lines of "dude, I just randomly jerked awake because of a falling sensation. My arm is completely numb right now." I was so shocked and excited by what just happened. I no doubt woke up my friend by grabbing his astral body. I didn't tell him what happened, I just pretended to be interested in a different way than i actually was.

[Pauli2]

You have to tell this to Raduga, as he doesn't believe that OBEs are real.

This story is as cool as the Monroe pinch experiment.

[Xanth]

I was taking a nap in a lodge that some friends and I were staying in. I projected and I floated over my friend who was napping in a bed beside mine. I grabbed my friend by the wrist feeling solid matter. I began to pull, hoping I could get him to astral project (bizarre, yes). I saw his spiritual arm coming out of his physical arm. It was yanked out of my hands and shot back into his physical arm. I saw his eyes jump open and he sat up really fast, looking scared. Instantly I was awoken by my friend making noise next to me. I looked over and he was sitting up. I asked him what happened and he said something along the lines of "dude, I just randomly jerked awake because of a falling sensation. My arm is completely numb right now." I was so shocked and excited by what just happened. I no doubt woke up my friend by grabbing his astral body. I didn't tell him what happened, I just pretended to be interested in a different way than i actually was.

I'd call that a pretty sweet personal verification. 

[Boom]

Awesome story, and goes against this "phasing" idea of how we dont have an astral body, and we are just focussed on our physical body or focussed into the phase.

Did you tell your friend that it was you?

I tried something quite similar once, I OBE'd to my now Ex girlfriends house and was trying to shout as loud as i could to her that i loved her. But she had no recollection or anything that I had been there.

Also one time I was partially awake and i was surprised to feel the company of her next to me, as it was a day later I was going to her house. So I got confused and thought I dont remember driving there yet, and woke up properly to find she wasnt there. But I definately felt her presence and it physically felt and sort of looked like she was laying in the bed next to me. But she had no recollection on OBEing to me either.

So I've tried interacting with people but havent had anything like that to prove to me that I did something!
So thats either some mad coincidence or.. wow

[blis]

Have you thought of sending him a link to this thread.

Our reactions might be enough to convince him of what happened.

[Xanth]

Awesome story, and goes against this "phasing" idea of how we dont have an astral body, and we are just focussed on our physical body or focussed into the phase.

Actually, it doesn't "go against" it.  What it does, is support the idea that "Intent" can influence our reality. 

Phasing isn't the idea that we don't have an astral body... Phasing is simply the "way" you get into the non-physical.  When you phase, if you believe you have a "body" (astral, etheral, whatever) then you'll have one.  It's all due to Intent though.  Phasing is akin to the "separation" sensations of the Classic OBE Separation Methods.  It's simply how you get from "here" to "there". 

[Pauli2]

Well, phasing lives after the principle that we can never go OUT of our bodies,
and that there is no "real" time. So phasing kind of invalidate RTZ OBE experiences.

[Xanth]

Well, phasing lives after the principle that we can never go OUT of our bodies,
and that there is no "real" time. So phasing kind of invalidate RTZ OBE experiences.

Phasing doesn't prove either of those suppositions. 
Nor does it invalidate RTZ OBE experiences.  Hell, Phasing doesn't invalidate anything... it's just a means of getting from "here" to "there".
The experiences you have when you're "there"... the experiences do the validating or invalidating.

Pauli, my suggestion to you is to widen your focus.  See the big picture.

[stellina757]

That is so awesome lol! I used to wake up every time from the sensation of falling. It's very interesting. I need to find a local friend who is into all of this stuff so we can experiement! My fiance could care less. 

[Volgerle]

another nice one for my collection 

[Summerlander]

I was taking a nap in a lodge that some friends and I were staying in. I projected and I floated over my friend who was napping in a bed beside mine. I grabbed my friend by the wrist feeling solid matter. I began to pull, hoping I could get him to astral project (bizarre, yes). I saw his spiritual arm coming out of his physical arm. It was yanked out of my hands and shot back into his physical arm. I saw his eyes jump open and he sat up really fast, looking scared. Instantly I was awoken by my friend making noise next to me. I looked over and he was sitting up. I asked him what happened and he said something along the lines of "dude, I just randomly jerked awake because of a falling sensation. My arm is completely numb right now." I was so shocked and excited by what just happened. I no doubt woke up my friend by grabbing his astral body. I didn't tell him what happened, I just pretended to be interested in a different way than i actually was.

Nice one. It is a very interesting experience. Try to replicate the experience again to reinforce the validation or personally lessen the nagging doubt of coincidence. Btw, the Phase may directly influence the physical realm and your experience, if it is what it appears to be (or what many here would hope), would give weight to Thomas Campbell's theory.

Well, phasing lives after the principle that we can never go OUT of our bodies,
and that there is no "real" time. So phasing kind of invalidate RTZ OBE experiences.

This is incorrect. Phasing incorporates Focus 1 (RTZ) and Kepple's descriptions of RTZ are spot on. Also, there is no out-of-body nor in-the-body if our awareness, or what constitutes the self, is nowhere to be found. Both Mode 1 and Mode 2 OOBEs can still coexist with the idea that we don't really go anywhere as we are nowhere to be found. In the waking state, we merely identify ourselves as being the physical body. My view is more compatible with Rupert Sheldrake's than anything else. It's all about "mind fields" extending beyond the physical body range...

You have to tell this to Raduga, as he doesn't believe that OBEs are real.

WHAT?

Pauli2, do yourself a favour and check out what it means to be pragmatic. I'd speak to Raduga and get to know him first. I'd also like to point something out to you...in quantum physics, particles do not have to be right next to each other to have some sort of interaction. Likewise, you do not have to separate from the body and go to your friend's address in order to visit him - otherwise this would rule out the whole remote viewing concept.

Also, have a look at this list which is admittedly incomplete, but gives you a brief idea of the things you can do in the Phase state:
http://obe4u.com/?page_id=10

Pay closer attention to number 1 and number 12:
"Influencing the physiology of one's own body."
"Obtaining information about life, oneself, one's surroundings, and other people."

Awesome story, and goes against this "phasing" idea of how we dont have an astral body, and we are just focussed on our physical body or focussed into the phase.

This is a misconception and an oxymoronic statement about phasing. The whole idea of it is centred around how we focus our awareness elsewhere other than the physical body. Furthermore, when an individual enters the metaphysical realm, they can and do experience an illusory body - which can be humanoid or transmute into other shapes and forms such as quadrupedal, ungulate, or utterly alien altogether. I have a friend who opts out of possessing any corporeal form whatsoever. His intent on this is so strong and effective that he does not experience it. I guess he likes the idea of just being a floating point of consciousness...

I'd also like to point out that Mode 1 and Mode 2 OOBEs could be the same thing (with one more accurately representing physical reality features and structures than the other). The brain hemispheres could even play a part in this! I find myself using the term "Phase" more than ever before because it is so broad and filters out the theory...

That is so awesome lol! I used to wake up every time from the sensation of falling. It's very interesting. I need to find a local friend who is into all of this stuff so we can experiement! My fiance could care less.  

We're on the same boat, stellina757! My wife couldn't care less about this. My oldest son, on the other hand, loves his dreams and it appears that he has a lot of control in them. He says he beats up bad guys with his powers and he likes to look at tornados in the sky...

[Landshark]

The main thing that was so surprising about this experiment was that I didn't expect or intend to see his astral arm come out of his physical arm. So I feel confident it wasn't something I just created in my mind out of expectation or intention, it was just... real.