First encounter of a retrieval?

[Firmitas]

Hey guys,

so retrievals are something that I want to eventually do. I had a very strange experience yesterday and I can't tell if it was a retrieval or not.

So I project at about 10am and go out of the window of my dads house into the street on the side. I immediately start asking for a guide or kind of willing one. Still no luck yet
I make my way down the street and realize what my goal for my next projection was. To meditate while projecting.
So I sit down in the lotus position and start meditating with my eyes open. I start to feel some vibrations up and down my spine and then I notice I am slowly turning counter clockwise. I keep turning until all the sudden I stop. I am facing directly towards a house and I have a strong urge to go inside.
When I get up to the door I hear a little boy say, "NO NO! go away you cant come here." So I gesture that its ok and start to walk away from the house. Not wanting to cause any harm. He then says," Ok its fine, come here." and he has shut the door to his house and is standing on the front porch.
I cant remember if I asked him or he told me, but I know that his name was Andrew and he was about 10 years old. He had short red hair and freckles. From the way he was looking at me it was as if he was seeing a ghost and knew it. He gestures for me to come inside.
The house is 2 stories and pretty big. I notice he is home all alone. He tells me,
"its fine if you are here, but someone else is here and they won't leave...its Jesus.. she's in this room over here."
"Im sorry SHE'S?" I said. "here tell me if you can see her, look through these blinds." So I then poke my head up to the blinds and start to look in a bit. My heart is RACING afraid of what I will see. So I tell him, "Im sorry buddy, I cant do this. I completely believe you but I am not ready for this." He then says that its ok and that we should go downstairs.
After sitting on his white couch for a minute I hear the door open and close upstairs. My heart starts rushing again as I look at Andrew. "Thats her..." he says.
On the 2nd story I see the woman frantically walk across this upstairs hallway, and down the first set up stairs. Suddenly she stops.
She was wearing bicycle shorts and a white T-shirt with dark brown hair to her shoulders and bangs.
She is looking at me like a dear in headlights. Her eyes must have been 1.5 inches in diameter.
"YOU!" she says. "ITS YOU!! YOU'RE THE THIEF!"
"what are you talking about?" I respond.
"YOU ARE A THIEF, YOU DONT BELONG HERE. GET OUT! NOW! YOU STOLE SOMETHING." she screams.
I respond by telling her that I haven't stolen anything and I am just talking, there is no harm.
She starts walking frantically towards me, eyes still penetrating.
Before she gets to me I become too scared and close my eyes to shake out of the projection. As I am doing this I hear Andrew yell, "NO!!"
Once awake in my bed my heart is pounding. I realize that I can project again in just a minute but I dont want to risk going back to that house. I wait a few seconds and then start to project again. As I am doing this though, I can still here Andrew and the woman yelling. As if I was still there but not fully conscious. I focus harder on not going there and eventually just project into my room again.

After thinking about this for some time, It almost seems as if that woman was keeping Andrew in that house. By telling him that she was Jesus.
I cant really tell if what I experienced was a retrieval or just me projecting into the RTZ and my brain was going off or what.
I projected another 2 times that session and had about 2 false awakenings. By the time I actually woke up, I felt like I was in the movie inception. I couldnt tell if I was awake or not.

Anyway I would love all of the advice I can get.
I am still extremely new to all of this. Astral movement is still really hard for me, and I have yet to meet my guide (I think). But I would love to help in any way I can with a retrieval.

Thanks and sorry for the long post,
-Firmitas

[NoY]

its hard to not want to go and save Andrew from the crazy lady init 

:NoY:

[Pauli2]

Anyway I would love all of the advice I can get.
I am still extremely new to all of this. Astral movement is still really hard for me, and I have yet to meet my guide (I think). But I would love to help in any way I can with a retrieval.

You could send the scared person PUL. (See -> http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/bruce_moen-t17022.0.html;msg270625#msg270625 )

Before projecting, think of someone you feel or has felt love for. Let that feeling gather up inside you. It will become PUL. If the feeling of love fades quickly, think of someone  else or something where you felt at peace like a walk at a beach. It too will become PUL. Repeat this for 1-3 minutes or until you feel you have enough PUL.

After projecting, when you meet the discarnate that has fear, send that person PUL, Love without demanding anything back. Possible cover the whole area with PUL. If you feel that someone tries to send PUL to you, it may be to get help from you as a channel to send PUL forward to the discarnate. If you meet a demon or evil monster/human, send it PUL, into its heart, and you will change it. If the discarnate seems to be an Aspect of Self, also embrace the Aspect if you think it's a lost part of you, hug it.

As soon as you think you are in a retrieval, also send a thought to helpers or guides, they will step in as soon as possible and help your retrieval.

[Xanth]

You could send the scared person PUL.

... you could also be understanding and nice to them.  See if they're willing to talk things out... remember, you can't exactly be harmed.  So there's really nothing to be afraid of.
So some crazy lady is yelling... just be understanding and nice to them... and they should come around. 

If not, they're crazy... grab the kid and run! 

[Firmitas]

Thanks for the replies guys.

So does anyone have any more advice on contacting guides? I would really like to have regular contact with one if possible = \

Also one other strange thing happened after the projection I posted.
I was in another projection and I could feel the paralysis in my physical body. So I decided to open my physical eyes and try and see. It was really hard to keep them open and I could feel the paralysis shutting them. Even though I was seeing as clear as day, I have no idea what I was looking at. It felt like it was my physical eyes but all I could see was a white wall with white tiles on the ground. On the wall was a small rectangular piece of wood with the word, "Peace" painted on it. After waking up I realized that there is nothing like that in my house.
Any thoughts?

-Firmitas

[manwesulimo2004]

Your story instantly reminded me of a song by System of a Down. Have you listened to it before? Maybe it left an impression on your subconscious?

[Firmitas]

Your story instantly reminded me of a song by System of a Down. Have you listened to it before? Maybe it left an impression on your subconscious?

Interesting. I haven't heard much from System of a down in years so I dont think its from that.

-Firmitas

[Naykid]

It sounds like it could have been a retrieval, I'm not sure.  You should go back and take the boy out of the house and see what happens.  It seems that the lady could be altering her look to Andrew (and wtg on remembering the name!) You saw a woman, he sees a man.  Very interesting regardless!  Thank you for sharing it. 

[NoY]

why dosent mona lisa have eyebrows?

:NoY:

[Naykid]

   

I think it's because eyebrows give emotion on the face, and I don't think that is what Da Vinci was going for... he wanted just slight emotions.

Well, I mean, as an artist, that would be my guess. 

[CFTraveler]

My understanding is that she was a real person, and that's what she looked like.  La Gioconda, Lisa Del Giocondo.

[Firmitas]

It sounds like it could have been a retrieval, I'm not sure.  You should go back and take the boy out of the house and see what happens.  It seems that the lady could be altering her look to Andrew (and wtg on remembering the name!) You saw a woman, he sees a man.  Very interesting regardless!  Thank you for sharing it. 

Strangely enough, Andrew knew that it was a woman. He said, "She's in there."
Next time I project, how would you recommend I get back to the house?

-Firmitas

[Astral316]

Interesting experience.

Strangely enough, Andrew knew that it was a woman. He said, "She's in there."
Next time I project, how would you recommend I get back to the house?

-Firmitas

I think every projection (or plane, rather) has a distinct feeling or "atmospheric identity." If you want to get back there you should remember and lock on to that feeling in the pre-projection state. I'm not experienced with retrievals so perhaps there is a better alternative, but this is what I'd do.

[Under_the_Midnight_Sun]

Thanks for the replies guys.

So does anyone have any more advice on contacting guides? I would really like to have regular contact with one if possible = \

I've had most success contacting guides when slightly off the RTZ. It seems to help to only focus on visiting a guide, like if your focus is on something else, only momentarily, when asking for a guide, it doesn't seem to work. Also if you give out signals of love and compassion for the helper it usually works. Strangely, it doesn't work 100% of the time, at least it doesn't for me 

[Firmitas]

I've had most success contacting guides when slightly off the RTZ. It seems to help to only focus on visiting a guide, like if your focus is on something else, only momentarily, when asking for a guide, it doesn't seem to work. Also if you give out signals of love and compassion for the helper it usually works. Strangely, it doesn't work 100% of the time, at least it doesn't for me 

Thank you, I'll definitely try this next time

-Firmitas