First real out of body feeling.

[RooJ]

After sleeping 3 or 4 hours during the day i awoke to eat my dinner (about 10:30pm... long story ). I ended up back in bed about 1:30am listening to the donnie darko soundtrack. I noticed i could see swirling light patterns behind my eyes. Wave after wave circling or passing softly, almost like something calling out to me or giving me a glimpse of something i was missing out on. It was like watching ripples on the top of water... but from underneath. This didnt feel like hypnogogic imagery as i was very much awake, after opening my eyes in the pitch black room i could still see them faintly, and as soon as i closed my eyes they were back with full strength.... ive never experienced this before.
The patterns gave me a very calm feeling and i watched intently as i listened to the CD.

After turning off the CD and falling asleep i ended up having a lucid dream in which i spent most of it flying (wont go into details here). At some point I awoke and wanting to re-enter my dreams i just let myself fall deeper back into my mind. I suddenly saw a change in vision, i heard a young girl talking and heard ripping sounds. I began to see a warp speed style scene like traveling fast through space and then felt myself fall through the bed. I found myself in blackness, no depth to it, just black, i then awoke.
This continued, I phased, found blackness then woke. One time I heard the ripping, then felt myself floating just above the bed. I floated uncontrollably sideways watching the bed below me as i passed through the wall into my neighbours house. I then found myself in reoccuring lucid dreams which i wont go into.

So... I had lots of lucid dreams, false awakenings and i entered via phasing lots of times, often with the feeling i was experiencing an OBE (after checking the time i found only 1.5 hours had passed since i first went to sleep.)

In closing, although id be interested in any comments about the experience im mostly interested in the light swirls. I found it much easier to visualize as i was falling asleep after having saw the imagery. Maybe it was related to digestion due to eating that late??

Comments welcome,

>RooJ

[Ben K]

I get that when i practice now too. Usually i fall asleep somewhere around this part so im hoping to get past it.

it starts with blobs that are almost the same color as the "blackness" behind my eyes, and as i relax more and more the shapes become more defined.

i believe its the same thing as the closed eye visuals you get on psychedelics, if youve ever experienced that. il bet pictures start to form if you can manage to relax more.

keep practicing

[RooJ]

Thanks for the reply,
Yeah i was thinking the same thing about psychedelics, its pretty cool that we can achieve this without the need for drugs   , certainly saves money.

Anyways, yeah ive had those weak hypnogogic imagery style swirls before, usually before the vivid hypnogogia kicks in, just this happened while i was wide awake. As i said, this was happening to a certain extent with my eyes open, then instantly increased in quality when I closed my eyes. I guess ill just hope for more so i can explore the state further.

>RooJ

p.s. I also have issues with falling asleep during practice   .