OBE Experiences and abductions

[PeacefulWarrior]

Thank you for sharing your account.  I found it fascinating... there are a few threads here in the forums regarding abductions and OBE, you might want to check them out (use the search engine on the site)...

fides quaerens intellectum

[Zebrima]

Hi again!

I also would like to share an explaination with you all that I got about the adbuctions. I received it telepathically during some kind of lucid dream. It's something like this: (It's translated from swedish and the grammar a.s.o. might be wrong)
"These experiences are not harmful and they´re not something bad, even if it can be hard to understand. You are what you call a "contactee", which means you have voluntarally agreed on these experiences to help out the aliens which you call "the grays": The grays often scare you humans, because they look scary to you and they seem to have less emotions and be more insensitive than you are. But remember, they´re not evil or bad.

You should know that you humans originally have many similiarities with the grays, because your DNA and cells were once very similar and still are. But the grays are further developed than you humans on planet earth are, especially within the technological areas. The grays once experimented a lot with their own DNA and cells, for example with cloning. This was a mistake and maybe we should have stopped them, but this was the path of exploring, learning and developing that they chose. The price the grays had to pay for trying to take control over their own creation and development process was high and led to damages of their own bodies and minds. They lost their ability of natural breeding and fertility and can now only breed by cloning. They lost some of their sensitivity, emotions and their bodies changed in ways they didn't want but couldn't control by themselves. A lot of other things happened to them as a result of their experiments and they screamed out for help.

We´re in this project together and it´s been going on for generations. Thousands of humans are participating and have agreed to be volunteers that help out the grays with fresh cells, DNA, sperms and eggs to make them get back as much as possible of their original structures of cells and DNA. The human DNA and cells are mixed with the grays and cloned to hopefully result in a new generation of grays that eventually can return to their original form and breed by themselves. The adbuctions and experiments are supervised and controlled,  and this reduces the pressure and stress of the humans involved, but we try to let the grays interact with you as much as possible, especially grays of the new generation to measure their ability of responding to feelings and reactions of other beings and train them to become more sensitive and aware. Sometimes this may lead to frightening experiences for the contactees.

Contactees are often originally from other planets and dimensions themselves, but some of them are originally bound the the recarnation-cycle of the earth. It's usual that contactees, especially females, have problems with infertility themselves. Contactees have a close contact with other participants of this project, but most of the time they´re not aware of it. Sometimes they´re part of the project for a limited time only, then moving on with other missions on the earth. Often they receive special information, healing and gifts.

You should not be afraid because we´re not trying to hurt or harm you. The project is being supervised and controlled and you´re still participating although you think the experiences are gone. We are all thankful that you are a part of making this project possible. If you truly want to leave the project, you can, nobody is bound to it by force. "

This was more or less the message received, what are your reactions about this?

Love and Light,
Zebrima

[Gandalf]

WOOOOOOOOOWWW!!!!

That sound pretty amazing!
It could all be true, what the message is relating to you.
However, bear in mind that it might be a yarn that some astral beings are spinning for you as an excuse to mess about with you.
I think your right, the beings are not 'evil' as such but are naughty and the female entity was obviously not chuffed with them.
I think though that they have returned on the sly and are continuing to mess around with you. The communication was probably designed to try to get you to accept this.
Perhaps you might want to look up some of RBs ideas for getting the little b*****ds to get lost, or perhaps you should just have it out with them?

On the other hand, perhaps the message is correct, but I think that it sounds more like a generic contactee story that the beings may have plucked from your mind or the mind of others and are using so you'll accept their fun and games.

Very interesting anyhow!

Douglas

[WalkerInTheWoods]

Interesting. First off I agree with Gandalf about the message. The thing that really sells me on the idea that it is not true is that if they are doing DNA tests, would they not need your physical body for that, you know the body that actually has the DNA? You said that your experiences take place out of body so I doubt this message you received is true. It may just be something you dreamed up yourself to give a meaning to your experiences.

As for your experiences, I am not sure if you were actually forced out and taken anywhere by aliens. Maybe you were, but another thing to consider is this. You may have just been having an obe and your mind perceived the energy sensations as other beings and projected such imagines. After reading about people thinking that others where touching them and pulling them out of their bodies I started paying attention to the sensations I get as I am getting ready to project. Surprisingly sometimes it feels exactly like people are touching me and pulling on me. I know that no one is because these are just typical projecting sensations.

[Zebrima]

Hi again!

Thank you for your responses, I really appreciate your feed-back on this and find your answers interesting and thoughtful. It´s true that the part about the DNA seems a little bit weird because the experiences are OBEs and not on my physical body. During the first experience however, it really felt as if it WAS my physical body being abducted, but I know it wasn't because I was temporaraly brought back to my bed by the aliens as they wanted to assure me that my physical body was still in bed. I was somehow shifting from being in my bedroom and back in space again about 4-5 times until the gold-sparkling female entity came to my rescue. But you have a good point there, fallenangel77 !!

I would like to add that I sometimes feel like an OBE is about to occur, but I guess I'm somehow a bit scared (but at the same time fascinated and curious about them), so I stop them for example by calling this female entity or by demanding to be brought back to my bed, which helps. Other ways I've found to prevent the OBEs is to have a light on, sleep in the same bed or room as somebody else or move some part of the body before falling asleep (for example I move my foot and toes, it may sound funny but I do... *s*)

Well, thank you again for your answers, I find them really interesting and thoughtful !!

Love and Light,
Zebrima

[PeacefulWarrior]

In my opinion you're being decieved and should ask them specific questions and/or protect yourself from them and have no further contact, they are most likely negative spiritual entities.

-Dan

fides quaerens intellectum

[General-Army]

o great, now im afraid to fall asleep. i dont know if it was this forum i told yous, but im deathly afraid of aliens, or any little thing such as orbs. Maybe they were aliens, since they are more advanced and evolved, maybe they could exist both pysicaly and astraly at once. So while you left your body they took what they needed. I know that the first alien i see is gettin a hard kick and then im runnin out the door and down the block.

Every man has their fear of dieing, whether it be of pain or not knowing where you are going, however, mine is the family, memories, and good times i leave behind.

[Zebrima]

About 3 years ago I had my first OBE. It was a spontanous one and really overwhelmed me, I hadn't heard about these kind of experiences before (maybe I had, but I didn't think or reflect about them).

It happened when I was lying in my bed, trying to go to sleep. I was all relaxed and calm, but not very tired. It was pretty late (about 1 am) and that's why I went to bed although I wasn't very tired. Suddenly I noticed a small, dark entity at my left side. It almost seemed like it came from inside the wall. I remember thinking :"Oh, it's you!" when I saw it, so I somehow recognized it, although I've never seen it before. I wasn't happy nor scared when I saw it, just neutral and still relaxed. It pushed me down on the floor and I remember seeing the sheets in my bed as I rolled down. I got very confused and was about to rise up and get back into my bed, when somebody started to pull my foot and pulled me out of my room, through the house and outside into our garden. I still wasn't very scared, just surprised and confused.

Then I was travelling through space extremely fast, like in a star-spangled dark tunnel. I slowly began to feel scared and panic, because i thought I was being abducted by aliens who wanted to do all kinds of horrible experiments on me. The entities tried to calm me down and assure me that my body was still in my bed, but I had no control of the situation at all and closed my eyes in horror. Suddenly a gold-sparkling female entity swooshed by and stopped. She was upset with the "aliens" and they dropped me at once, a bit ashamed. I didn't feel sorry for them at all (although I knew they were not THAT bad...) and the female calmed me down completely. The love and harmony she sent out was total and I knew I was safe with her. She brought me back to my bed and I "woke up" in my room, exhausted and confused. I thought about the experience for a minute or so, then I fell asleep.

After this experience the OBEs continued, sometimes every night, sometimes only about once a week, but not as clear and overwhelming as this first experience. All of the experiences were spontanous and I couldn't control them myself, although I tried to. I always got pulled out in a tunnel or "swooshed" out of my body by force. This was both scaring and frustrating, as these experiences fascinated me, but I wanted to explore them on my own. Has anyone else OBE-experiences that feels somehow like "abductions", I would like to know more about them.
Today I experience these "abductions" very seldom. Instead I have a lot of lucid dreams.

Love and Light,
Zebrima