Need advice from experienced APers.

[Skeletor]

I started trying to AP recently, using the method found here: http://www.spiritonline.com/files/messages/15/334.html?0

Are these accurate and precise instructions?  Is something missing?  It doesn't seem to work for me.

[RJA]

I'm not that experienced at this, but interestingly enough the technique you linked to is the exact one that's worked for me the most.  I read a few books and tried the techniques in them, but what ultimately led to my first and several more OBEs was this technique.

That said, here are a few suggestions:

1) Keep trying.  It's not going to work the first time.  Try this technique every night for a month.  I had tried a variety of techniques for several weeks with no result.  The very first time I tried this one I got vibes so strong (after only about a minute) it felt like someone was driving a tractor-trailer through my body - but I didn't end up getting out of my body that time (and I've never got vibes like that again).

2) This technique worked best for me when I did it after waking up in the middle of the night.  I'm a light sleeper so I tend to wake up a few times during the night.  If you wake up during the night, do this technique for ten minutes or so or until you fall back to sleep.  For me, sometimes I got vibes with this technique but more often than not I feel asleep and then awoke again either with vibrations or already out of my body (for example once I awoke and instantly felt as if I was being spun/flipped lengthwise and I ended up on the floor beside my bed out of my body).

3) The times when I was successful with this technique were the times when I really felt a physical falling sensation - like being in an elevator.  Other times I did the technique but didn't feel anything and that led to nothing.

4) This technique seems to bring on the vibrational state AFTER you're already in a trance state or the mind awake/body asleep state.  So, if you're not doing this when you've just awakened, then first do some sort of breathing exercise or something to get into a light trance.  And then after you do this technique - if you're successful and get vibrations then you need to mentally focus on "encouraging" the vibrations to spread throughout your body and then you need to do some sort of exit technique.  On those times when I didn't just pop out of my body I've typically been able to just sit up and step out of my body but you can try rolling out or floating out or whatever.

5) There's nothing magical about this particular technique so try others if this doesn't work.  The mechanics of all techniques are similar: First do some sort of technique to get into a light trance or hypnogogic state, Then do this technique or something similar to loosen the energy body and bring on vibrations, and then do some sort of exit technique to get out.

Good luck.  I also think it helps if you think, read and in other ways focus on your intention to have an OBE.  If you do that for a period of time your intention programs your subconscious to do this.  Also, you might want to explore lucid dreaming at the same time.    : )

[Skeletor]

thanks a lot for the tips.  going to try again tonight, i've made some progress the last two nights maybe i'll get further this time.