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NatasNema

The Experience happened about four months ago. I've had some history with sleep paralysis the past 3-4 years it would come and go and eventually one night without trying had an OBE, at the time I had no clue about vibrations and chakras and all that good stuff.  I had the feeling of being lifted and floated above my body facing the ceiling not able to control what was happening. Then my projection worked its way over to the side of the bed until I was floating near even with my real body.  I looked over and saw myself which was a very fascinating experience to see yourself from a different point of view.  I all of the sudden got the sensation of falling and my projection fell through the floor then just like that, I woke up.  That was my first some what successful OBE.  Now to the point.

About four months ago I had a weird some what lucid dream of being on a island in the sky, up and down was nothing but sky.  (not going to explain the whole dream, not important, I'm just going to explain what happened near the end before the real experience happened.)  I was with my present day girlfriend and was standing at the edge of the island and jumped with her clutched tightly in my hands towards my chest.  I closed my eyes and started to fall and also had sensations of spinning.  The spinning sensation intensified until all of the sudden I wake up in my bed (this is the real experience)

Before I explain this experience,  I knew it was 110% real because the trick was I kept my eyes open the ENTIRE TIME and kept track of what was going on until the end.  I'm also not sure if I was in the astral plane or just hallucinating, but again I was awake and aware the entire experience.

I wake up in my room, remember I've literally woken up fresh as in the morning wake up deal.  I swear people there was a freakin Hurricane in my room I could feel, see, and hear this wind,  I'm looking at the ceiling and the walls and other objects in the room. The easiest explanation I have for the whole setting is if you have ever seen the movie Constantine when he enters hell and the violent wind he encounters while in hell was literally in my room minus the hellish landscape. I felt like this wind was exceeding easily 40 to 50 MPH yet none of the objects in my room were reacting with it.  The walls looked as if they had this purplish blue hue mixed with green and dominated by black outlines just pulsing along the walls. The colors were vivid yet they were blurry at the same time.  Everything I had just said happened in the time span of about 5 seconds.  I then realized I was being held down by something (Remind Anyone of Sleep Paralysis? No I did not want to move, I knew if I moved the experience would disappear.)  I looked down to see a silhouette of a very frail black humanoid figure. The figure was darker than the darkness in my room, the body was like that of a child wrapping it's arms around my belly reaching around to my back with his arms over my arms.  The eyes had a yellow glowing vibrant color being brighter in the middle and faded at the ends.  Naturally I should have been terrified but I was more interested to see if this was all too real.  I then noticed another of the same figure crawling at the end of my bed looking and staring at me. The eyes made a glowing trail as it moved across the bed, they didn't seem to want to hurt me but seemed more curious about me.  I then noticed silhouettes of arms and hands probably from the same figures grabbing a hold of the side of the bed  The funny thing is I was not afraid nor did they give off the feeling of being malevolent .  At about this time is when the experience started to dissipate the wind started dying down and the the figures started to dissolve into thin air, the colors started to become more bland.  I realized that reality was starting to shift over like it forgot I was there, I felt these very strong vibrations that started out fast and then proceeded to slow down. (The fast vibrations I felt that i did not feel during the experience was the vibrations slowing down to place me back into the "physical world" in the first place.)  I witnessed the process of transition in real time because I was awake and aware the entire time. There was no instant transition from the OBE, dream, or sleep paralysis to being awake in my bed afterward. I watched reality slowly come back into place.  

Can anyone explain to me what happened?

Below is a rough reference photo of what I Witnessed


3toedsloth

If I had to give my best guess on what you experienced, it would be this:

You awoke into sleep paralysis. This happens quite commonly actually.

In certain cases of sleep paralysis (usually not experienced by avid projectors as they know and recognize the feeling immediately) people will see entities or visions in the room. In MOST cases, people will experience a feeling of some entity on their chest, usually holding them down, or sometimes making it hard for them to breath.

If you research sleep paralysis, you will find a ton of information to support this. Our ancestors explained sleep paralysis as a demon in the room that would sit on your chest and try to suck the life out of you. There are paintings and drawings of this demon throughout history. One of the most famous is this:



My first experiences with sleep paralysis I didn't see visions, but I often heard sounds and usually felt an extreme anxiety and fear. I recommend you do some research on sleep paralysis separate from astral projection, and you will find lots of experiences people have had similar to your own.

No worries though! It's nothing that can harm you. And in fact, when you learn to control it, you will be projecting all the time and experiencing some of the most amazing things imaginable!
I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious.   -Albert Einstein

CFTraveler

ps. You were projected (the island dream was a projection) and the phenomena was reentry, which was interpreted as the wind and entities, etc.

NatasNema

Quote from: 3toedsloth on April 06, 2012, 04:57:38
If I had to give my best guess on what you experienced, it would be this:

You awoke into sleep paralysis. This happens quite commonly actually.

In certain cases of sleep paralysis (usually not experienced by avid projectors as they know and recognize the feeling immediately) people will see entities or visions in the room. In MOST cases, people will experience a feeling of some entity on their chest, usually holding them down, or sometimes making it hard for them to breath.

If you research sleep paralysis, you will find a ton of information to support this. Our ancestors explained sleep paralysis as a demon in the room that would sit on your chest and try to suck the life out of you. There are paintings and drawings of this demon throughout history. One of the most famous is this:



My first experiences with sleep paralysis I didn't see visions, but I often heard sounds and usually felt an extreme anxiety and fear. I recommend you do some research on sleep paralysis separate from astral projection, and you will find lots of experiences people have had similar to your own.

No worries though! It's nothing that can harm you. And in fact, when you learn to control it, you will be projecting all the time and experiencing some of the most amazing things imaginable!

I dunno it didn't feel like normal sleep paralysis,  it felt so much more vivid and 100% real to me and I watched everything go slowly back to normal right before my eyes.  I also felt that I could have got up and walked around the room but didn't because it felt like the experience would have ended.  I guess it could have been SP.

Quote from: CFTraveler on April 06, 2012, 12:13:47
ps. You were projected (the island dream was a projection) and the phenomena was reentry, which was interpreted as the wind and entities, etc.


Can sleep paralysis be more vivid than projecting?  Well... I guess it could be...

Contenteo

I am with CF all the way here.

It sounds like you jumped down in focus levels.

The first portion of your dream was in some sort of BST. Remember, if the environment you are in seems to be to vast and complicated for your brain to reasonable render, then it is probably a BST. Same goes for is there is a lot of entities doing many things. This would be tough for a single physical brain to render. Thus, high probability of a BST. Floating islands sounds like something that would be in a BST. From there you fell, but rather then a smooth waking, you seems to have stayed in a F21 state.

The BIG teller for me that you were in a F21(local brain projection) was the immense autonomy you had over your emotions in this 2nd part. This is so classic of these types of projections. To strengthen the hypothesis, you were in your room. More F21 tellers. Not to mention after a falling dream. Usually you come out after, but you lingered.

The little black man? The swirling? Well, it could be a number of things. It could have been some sort of quasi F22/F21 state rather then just a 21. A state where you were dealing with a local soul that hasn't passed on to the higher levels yet. I lean towards this because we hypothesized you dropped out of a higher BST focus level. You had a good deal of PUL surrounding you. This is a very attractive curiosity to these entities still trapped in lower levels. Then again, It could have been some deep rooted Freudian thing. IDK. Regardless it seems like it was a remarkable experience.  I will admit, I am slightly envious  :wink:.

Cheers,
Contenteo


NatasNema

Quote from: Contenteo on April 07, 2012, 04:07:04
I am with CF all the way here.

It sounds like you jumped down in focus levels.

The first portion of your dream was in some sort of BST. Remember, if the environment you are in seems to be to vast and complicated for your brain to reasonable render, then it is probably a BST. Same goes for is there is a lot of entities doing many things. This would be tough for a single physical brain to render. Thus, high probability of a BST. Floating islands sounds like something that would be in a BST. From there you fell, but rather then a smooth waking, you seems to have stayed in a F21 state.

The BIG teller for me that you were in a F21(local brain projection) was the immense autonomy you had over your emotions in this 2nd part. This is so classic of these types of projections. To strengthen the hypothesis, you were in your room. More F21 tellers. Not to mention after a falling dream. Usually you come out after, but you lingered.

The little black man? The swirling? Well, it could be a number of things. It could have been some sort of quasi F22/F21 state rather then just a 21. A state where you were dealing with a local soul that hasn't passed on to the higher levels yet. I lean towards this because we hypothesized you dropped out of a higher BST focus level. You had a good deal of PUL surrounding you. This is a very attractive curiosity to these entities still trapped in lower levels. Then again, It could have been some deep rooted Freudian thing. IDK. Regardless it seems like it was a remarkable experience.  I will admit, I am slightly envious  :wink:.

Cheers,
Contenteo



Wow, sounds like some serious stuff.  Everything you just explained about f21, f22, pul, and bst are all new things I've never heard about before and I am curious to know more about them.  Oh and the really weird thing is and I wanna slap myself for not doing this.  I really felt that I could have stood up out of my bed and walked around the room and still could have watched everything as it happened and watched reality set back in.  Basically what I'm saying is I hope I don't make myself sound crazy is walking and interacting with the physical world while seeing into the astral plain at the same time (Briefly).  Not sure if that's possible in this field of exploration but anythings possible to me... (Eventually)

I'm also convinced there are things here that we cannot see in our physical form and they are here in front of our face.

Contenteo

lol, nah, I deal with enough of this stuff to reassure you that your not crazy.

Here's a really vague outline. it's very subjective and will take a while to put all your experiences into this context. When you do so, you'll have a nice view of how disconnected you were from the physical. Mental maps are really important when dealing with non-phsyical things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_level

F21 - Monroe's first stage of projection. It's pretty much a projection into your own imagination. Except you get to live there. Fun stuff. It takes a while to get even this far btw.d

F22 - Yeah, you don't want to go there. At least not so soon.

PUL - Pure Unconditional Love - its a feeling over overwhelming love that you will become akin with. It's awesome its pretty much ecstasy.

BST - Belief system territory - a environmental construct made by multiple souls which share the same beliefs, so they construct an environment to live in which mirrors these beliefs. Yes, when you die this is what appears to happen. There is a heaven, Valhalla, and those terrorists do get 72 virgins when they die. 

Oh, here, check this out too.
http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/h438/Robert_Carbone/Contenteos2011ConceptualFramework.jpg

Hope this helps,

Cheers,
Contenteo


3toedsloth

Great stuff Contenteo! Thank you for the explanations!!!
I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious.   -Albert Einstein

NatasNema

Thank you my friend for the information, I really appreciate it.  I also updated my last post literally right when you posted so if you didn't get to glance at that go right ahead.  I also suffer from night terrors every now and then but they are not too bad, and I am 23 btw that stuff usually affects children which is weird.  The worst case of night terrors I've had (which I think they have something to do with projecting in a way) was one night I was basically screaming/moaning really loud and woke up my girlfriend, but the moment she try's to get out of it i snap back in and shut up lol.  The strange thing about after my night terrors it feels like there is a presence in the room just lingering there for about 10 minutes and she said she could feel it too, like absolute dread.  We both couldn't go back to sleep for about an hour, it was horrible.

3toedsloth

I just realized nobody said this yet, but i'm sure i'm not the only one thinking it.

GREAT PAINTING!!!

I genuinely wish I was as talented at drawing/painting so I could record visuals better. I do some pen sketches, but it never suffices. You're quite talented!
I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious.   -Albert Einstein

NatasNema

Haha thank you, we'll have to give my girlfriend credit for that.  I explained it the best i could to her with as much detail as possible and she drew it up in about 15 minutes.

NatasNema

Oh and btw if you want her to draw your experience just remember it in the best way possible and post it here to me.

3toedsloth

QuoteOh and btw if you want her to draw your experience just remember it in the best way possible and post it here to me.

I'm going to hold you to this!

As a matter of fact, any chance she could paint/draw the beach scene I describe with meeting my guide here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/meeting_my_first_guide-t36930.0.html;msg303826#msg303826

The part I am referring to is while i'm 'standing' in the moonlight waves, and my guide is 'standing' in the sand about 20ft back from me.

Dont be too worried about the details of what I look like. i'm 27, brown hair, military haircut. the way SHE looked however was significant to me. She kinda looked like this:



Except she was wearing white pants, a white tanktop, and a white button up collared shirt over it unbuttoned and blowing in the wind. her hair was in a pony tail.

No rush on this, and if she doesnt want to, no big deal. but i figured i'd try and take advantage of the offer :)

THANK YOU!!!!
I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious.   -Albert Einstein

NatasNema

You are very welcome. I  just asked her and she said she will do it and she will start on it tomorrow!!  :-D

I looked at your quote and the image you inserted is not loading try re-linking.

NatasNema

Hi. I'm the person that had painted that picture, I'm working on your story right now. It is very interesting and has much detail, so I have chosen to do a series of drawings. The first one that I am working on is her face and appearance. Mostly the waist up for now, then I will move on to the environment and piece it all together into one concept. The first will be done in a few days. I am really enjoying doing these, I haven't drawn anything in a long time. Hope that you like them! :)

3toedsloth

Thank you again for your efforts!

Here's the photo I spoke of:



But multiple pictures of the actress I say looks like her can be seen here:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0453746/mediaindex

I'm sure I'll like anything you come up with! I've had a friend paint a few of my dreams in the past, and I'm always amazed at the picture they interpret. I am also very envious of such talents. I do like to sketch here and there, but I've no talent comparable to yours in that department, nor the patience to try and hone one.

Thank you again! I do genuinely appreciate this, and I look forward to seeing the progression of your work. Let me know if there's anything I can do or any questions you have that I can answer to help in the process :)
I have no special talent, I am only passionately curious.   -Albert Einstein