So.. every night when i go to sleep i get out of body, but i cant move and im lying on my bed. ..and there are negs tryin to scare me or hurt me every time i try to astral before going to sleep. .. But during the day.. everything goes fine. What about that? thx. And im not hitting any vibrations at night.. i just astral without vibrations. Theyr like waiting me every night..Anyone has the same problem?
How do you know they're negs?
I've had one experience where as soon as I entered, this shadow being like locked on to me and started coming closer. It grabbed me and had incredible strength. Then there was another time where I felt like 2 dark entities were close, I heard a voice that told me to leave that they are coming for me... Very strange encounters. Try not to fear them but rather stop thinking of them entirely. Good luck.
Quote from: CFTraveler on November 05, 2011, 22:40:00
How do you know they're negs?
What else could they be?
Quote from: dunno615 on November 06, 2011, 08:02:34
What else could they be?
They could be all kinds of things- negs, maybe, but also self aspects, dwellers, or guardians.
One way to find out is to fight them, to overcome any fear you might have about it, and go from there. When people begin projecting consciously the first things that happen is that they experience what they perceive as attacks. When they overcome them in a way that gets rid of the fear, they find out they were tests administered by 'higher' self aspects for the purpose of getting you accustomed to new situations. Once you overcome this, other experiences are open to you.
In my experience the experiences evolve in the following way:
Fear. Then fear turns to anger and you fight.
Then anger turns into curiosity and you study the situation.
Then it can turn into understanding and a different way to see and you forgive, and then other types of lessons are opened up for you to go through, which involve helping you with life lessons that are symbolized in the nonphysical.
And these go on in different ways, until something specific peaks your interest and you go 'there', and so on....
If you are sure they are negs then fight them as negs, but be aware that the experience may change.
I experienced this when I first started projecting- as a teenager I was scared to death to go to sleep- I would frequently see a grim reaper figure and would see or feel spirits touch me or do thing to me...You have to set up a strong protection sysem... I am a believer of christ so fill my body with his presence and state that no spirit is allowed to enter. I also set up protection around my entire house- you can burn sage and cedar before you sleep or meditate to clear negetives- I have also realized that I have an animal gardian- mine is a golden lion- but people have different gardian spirits. I spent several years terrified of these negetive entities but now that I have found how to overcome them they rarely bother me... I am also able to shape shift so when I am out in other dimentions and animalistic beings come after me I turn into a wearwolf and rip their heads off... I probably could do it in a better more peiceful year and should work on controlling this anger/fear response. It is very easy to become possesed when out of your body- look internally to see if anything is in you- they are good at hiding- I have been able to remove them by screeming that christ resides in me over and over and over and then I reach in and pull them out... If they are people who have died an angel will come and get them once they are out ... this is very cool. Does anyone else come across extraterestrials in the other dimensions.... and are the little grey ones up to no good??? Most seem harmless but I'm not sure about the little grey ones.
Quote from: CFTraveler on November 06, 2011, 12:44:58
They could be all kinds of things- negs, maybe, but also self aspects, dwellers, or guardians.
One way to find out is to fight them, to overcome any fear you might have about it, and go from there. When people begin projecting consciously the first things that happen is that they experience what they perceive as attacks. When they overcome them in a way that gets rid of the fear, they find out they were tests administered by 'higher' self aspects for the purpose of getting you accustomed to new situations. Once you overcome this, other experiences are open to you.
In my experience the experiences evolve in the following way:
Fear. Then fear turns to anger and you fight.
Then anger turns into curiosity and you study the situation.
Then it can turn into understanding and a different way to see and you forgive, and then other types of lessons are opened up for you to go through, which involve helping you with life lessons that are symbolized in the nonphysical.
And these go on in different ways, until something specific peaks your interest and you go 'there', and so on....
If you are sure they are negs then fight them as negs, but be aware that the experience may change.
Thats interesting.. thanks for your reply..yes im stuck in the position where i have to fight them..but im always paralized.. i know that anger can break it.. ive done it before..but i dont get angry often you know.. it was that one time.
QuoteIt is very easy to become possesed when out of your body-
No no .... This is a misconception due to not understanding that you do not
ever leave your body empty when you project- it is no easier to become possessed when projecting than it is to become possessed when sleeping- this is because when you are sleeping you are projecting unaware, and when you are projecting (AP/OBE) you are completely aware of what is going on around you both in your physical body and around it.
Quote from: dunno615 on November 06, 2011, 16:59:27
Thats interesting.. thanks for your reply..yes im stuck in the position where i have to fight them..but im always paralized.. i know that anger can break it.. ive done it before..but i dont get angry often you know.. it was that one time.
If this only happened when you were paralyzed then it wasn't negs- more than likely you were suffering from energy body feedback, aka 'dweller on the threshold'. there should be a thread around here somewhere dedicated to this very common side effect of a partial projection.
Quote from: CFTraveler on November 06, 2011, 17:11:02
If this only happened when you were paralyzed then it wasn't negs- more than likely you were suffering from energy body feedback, aka 'dweller on the threshold'. there should be a thread around here somewhere dedicated to this very common side effect of a partial projection.
Okay. thanks
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I know I was terrified for years because the same thing was happening, and once I set up protection and gained self confidence in my abilities it stopped... I only had one encounter in the past couple years when a skeleton figure was sitting at the end of my bed taunting me. It didn't touch me but got right in my face as I left my body- and I looked up and the golden lion was there so I knew everything would be ok