riding swirls to goron city

[cavernstoy]

I think I have made a lot a progress with phasing.  However, I can never make the final step, and fully focus my consciousness. Here is what happened to me a few minutes ago, when I attempted to phase into the astral realm:

Basically, I just meditated in a full trance until I saw strong hypnogogic imagery.  I paid attention to every detail.  I saw swirls; swirls that when I followed (focused on) them, would take me to places.  These random places were nothing more that abstract spaces with other swirls and objects, and small brief visions and images of objects and places that may be in the astral realm, or just a creation of my mind.  I watched these for a while, until I began to hear voices.  These voices were not mine, but deep voices of wisdom, or just random voices speaking random words as I traveled through these abstract "rides" (this is not nearly as exciting as it sounds).  These voices were incredibly realistic, as if I was truly listening to them with my physical ears. (while all of this was happening, I did have moments where I forgot that I was in my room, meditating.  However, the whole experience was nothing more than a 2D vision.  It was more like a vivid day dream than what I picture a real AP to be) I had the desire to speak with someone who can help me (in the astral realm). I found this person and he told me to imagine a place where I would want to be.  I asked him for a suggestion and he said a rocky mountain or something, but I perceived that suggestion as Death mountain trail, which is from the legend of zelda ocarina of time (not sure why).  So I did this.  I imaged walking into Goron city and talking with the gorons.  Again, it felt more like a 2D daydream then an actual projection, although it was my focus of attention.  It was kind of like a non vivid 2d dream.  I tried many other methods (being at a beach, grabbing objects, willing the formation of a tunnel, moving my body in repetitive motions, playing radiohead on the piano) but I just never made the full transition.  What can I do to make the final transition?

[MilitiaMan]

I'd like to have that answer too, that's about as far as I can ever get... vivid day dreams where people sometimes talk to me, but then I'll twitch or something and I'll just be in bed laying there...

[Stookie]

Daydream-type scenes are normally hypnogogic. Same thing with random voices. For me, this is just the beginning of the hard part. Depending on my level of concentration, when I recognize that I'm in the hypnogogic state I'll passively watch the images come and go. I don't try to control it or contemplate it - just observe it. At this point it's easy to become too physically aware or just plain fall asleep. It's tough to find that balance.

If I feel my concentration level is high enough, I'll immerse myself into my own visualization, aka phasing. It's also tough but worth the practice and patience.

I find what you don't want to do is think things like "I'll try this, if it doesn't work, I'll try this...". You want to keep your thoughts to a minimum and intent on your goal, which in this case is immersing yourself into the visualization.

...and lots of practice.

[cavernstoy]

Thanks Stookie.  Next time I will just stick to "emerging myself" instead of complicating things, and in the process loosening my focus.

Cavenstoy