Historical events

[Theeongoingspirt]

Was wondering if any one had revisited any historical events on earth while in the astral?

[Astralzombie]

Was wondering if any one had revisited any historical events on earth while in the astral?

Just recently I was in a WW2 battle. I was an American and I feel as if it took place during The Battle of the Bulge.

I have many other experiences that were in the past but I can not pin them down to any historical significance.

[mr_coffee]

Try asking about your past lives when your in the astral you may be surprised what you find

[ChopstickFox]

Memories or imprints on past evens have been shown to me before. Sometimes it has been terrifying. And even more scary is that it matched up perfectly even though I had no prior knowledge. My most vivid experience was on a WW2 aircraft carrier. I wrote about it here:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_metaphysics/imprints-t38879.0.html

But now that I think about it, that was in the physical... I completely missed the point.

Non physical wise I have seen places and events, some related to the same aircraft carrier. I was able to draw a map of the island with Pearl Harbor (though it was a little different from now because time has passed) and also went to Micronesia. Of course, some things are very hard to match up, mostly because there is always the possibility that everything is preconceived by perceiving a place even without being aware of it. Taking the details that we know and recreating it from what we know. I have tossed the idea of a past life since there has been so much surrounding it that I have experienced, but I have no idea WHY. I hate war, but I've had a few very detailed experiences as a young man aboard that aircraft carrier in WW2. Now why would that happen? There are certainly more possibilities than a past life. I entertain the idea, but when it comes down to it, I am very skeptical.

Regardless it is fascinating. And a little scary, haha!

Have you ever visited any historical events on earth while in the astral?

[mr_coffee]

I actually don't believe in past lives either as it makes it seem like once this life is over, you don't go into the non-physical but perhaps your soul just gets rewritten and reused.  I would like to believe that once we die our consciousness is then free from our temporary bodies and can travel to higher energy dimensions just as we do in the physical when we project. 

I've never had had any past life experiences as I haven't had the interest to ask yet but I've read books of several others who also mentioned one of their lives were part of a war.  The guy projecting said he was looking out of the eyes of a young man on top of a tank.   He did mentioned he did have an interest in war history so that might have been the reason.  But it is interesting you also had a war related experience. 

[Astralzombie]

Hey Chops, I just read your old post and that seems so cool yet terrifying. Which Battleship was this?

Do you realize how accurate your terminology was? When I first got out of college, I was a contractor for the Dept. of Defense and I had to work on a lot of navy vessels. I still can't speak in accurate terms concerning ship talk and I was raised on all kinds of boats and such.

[ChopstickFox]

My terminology? I guess since I was raised in Florida and my dad had a boat, I would have picked it up. Between that, books, and movies, hehe.

It was the USS Intrepid which is in NYC.

[Volgerle]

I actually don't believe in past lives either as it makes it seem like once this life is over, you don't go into the non-physical but perhaps your soul just gets rewritten and reused.

What makes you come to this conclusion which is one out of many and (for me) not even very logical? I recommend you read some live-between-lives regression therapy transcripts. E.g. books by M. Newton, B. Weiss or D. Cannon. I believe nothing gets "re-written" but that an incarnation is rather (trying analogies here) the download or composition of a personality of the "same" Higher Self (the "real" you). It's like the Higher You plays before a computer a game with an avatar which it before the game compiled itself and bestowed it with strengths and weaknesses, maybe even out of former avatars, drawing from what resources it has available out of its portfolio.

I recommend (as always) M. Monroe on the Higher Self, fascinating talk, starts here and a few parts that follow it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF6Ri_6QKjo#t=4m38s

I would like to believe that once we die our consciousness is then free from our temporary bodies and can travel to higher energy dimensions just as we do in the physical when we project.

I believe this is what happens and the data from past life or life-after-death regressions and near-death studies seems to confirm it. You do not incarnate immediately and by force. The data shows you choose it for yourself. We are all volunteers here, isn't that wonderful? 

On topic: I have just seen persons, no scenes so far, (because I had repeatedly asked for the person, not the experience) who could be (have been) past selves. Mostly I am shown them in a mirror, so this is why it also could be valid to me, moreover since it is also a technique recommended by some authors on LD or AP to do this to view past selves (e.g. Nick Newport).

[mr_coffee]

Interesting I guess I never really looked much into past lives, I'll definitely check out that video though.  I always wondered why it was so easy for me to let go of things that brought me dislike.  It seems I have a natural filter for negative things.  Perhaps its because I know there are very few things you really need to worry about in the world.  But before my injury I use to worry about my grades, pleasing my girlfriend, looking perfect, etc. 

After I woke up with my life turned up side down it really made me realize how I was looking at life totally wrong.  I was worrying about the future that may never occur ( you could die for example).  Now I live day by day, loving every moment of it.  I guess thats how anyone can purge stress and unhappiness from their life.  I have spent the last 4 years setting up my life to be as pleasurable as possible.  I sometimes wonder when I will feel like a grown up or old.  I'm guessing it won't ever happen if I keep this life style. 

Another HUGELY important thing was the balance of work and life.  I'm a software engineer so you can easily get your life completely consumed by work and money.  I soon found out after you pass a certain income, the more money coming in isn't making me any happier.  So I picked a job that would pay the bills with some extra but I won't have to be a slave to the industry.  Life is a constant balancing act!

[Fairywindblues]

I keep getting pulled astrally and in dreams to the Titanic.

Titanic has been a major theme in my life. The movie came out in 1997. In 1993, we moved to America. We were dirt poor and had no money and no t.v. Around 1995, my dad asked us which Imax movie we wanted to see (our first time ever going to an Imax showing): Antarctica, Titanic, Ancient Egypt, or something on space. I remember yelling out "Titanic!" He looked at me all weird and asked if I even knew what the Titanic was. I just kept exclaiming that I wanted to see it.

It was a documentary about the ship. I was fascinated by it. A few years later, the movie came out and an amazing game came out called Titanic Adventure Out Of Time on Windows 95. Hah. I was glued to all things Titanic.

I started having Titanic dreams. I've probably had a hundred by now. Then, when I would go astral, I would sometimes go straight to the Titanic because it just keeps pulling me in. Plus, I have a two foot model of it in my bedroom.

I typically don't linger because it's a scary place to find yourself when sensitive to negative energies like you're prone to in the astral.

[Astralzombie]

Hey FWB, the Titanic has always been a fascniting topic to me so I am a little envious of your experiences.

But why do you think that you are always seeing negative energies? With a little bit of work I'll bet you might just find that they are more scared of you.

[mr_coffee]

With a little bit of work I'll bet you might just find that they are more scared of you.

I hope to find some more negative energies in the astral so I can do some experiments on them.  I heard traveling from the 1st energy level (the semi copy of the physical) up to space a lot of people claim bad energy lies there keeping you from traveling further into the universe.  But the more I read about it, its probably just the fear of the unknown.

[Lionheart]

But why do you think that you are always seeing negative energies? With a little bit of work I'll bet you might just find that they are more scared of you.

..because that seems to be what he is looking for. Ask and you shall receive! 

[Fairywindblues]

No no, I meant a lot of times, I will see the Titanic more in chaos than in positivity. That's how I see her, most times - in panic mode. When astral and around a scary or 'negative' situation, I become empathetic to the fear/negativity in the air. Same as when I'm around positive things. When I see the Titanic in particular, a sense of doom lingers around her in the astral. At least when I visit.

I'm sorry, isn't fear a negative energy? I said nothing about negative entities.

I like visiting the Titanic when it's full of raw fear and full of screaming people and sinking. That's just down right sad and scary for me to see, though. It's the way things went down that night, but it was sad. I'm surely not the only one who feels sensitive to happiness/sadness in astral. That's what I meant by negative energies - your own inability to cope with seeing something sad/scary can manifest in extreme mental trauma. At least for me. So I pull away.

[mr_coffee]

I've never had such an experience in the astral so I would imagine if you are viewing a past event you would feel the energy around you (and in this case it would be terror).  You could also try some shielding technique like requesting you won't feel any negative energy or ask to be protected by a shield of love/warm light.  But perhaps the images alone would still cause the sad emotions.  How did you travel to such an event or did this occur right after the separation into the non-physical?

[Fairywindblues]

A few years ago, I gained the ability to AP out of my lucid dreams. I would have the same dreams repetitively to a point where I began waking up in these dreams because my mind immediately would go like "Ah, it's the Titanic dream again...."

At this point, I would astral project out of the lucid dream by staring out of a window/door in the dream and staying absolutely still. I would then direct all of my energy into flying out of the window/door in my dream.

This would always follow up with a falling sensation, and a sensation of zooming at high speeds into NPR, and having a whole HD 360 view and the whole enchilada.

When I'd AP out of a lucid Titanic dream, I'd use that method of staring into a window/door and I'd end up just projecting back into the Titanic except it would be more life-like. I am terrified of the ocean in real life and as much as I love the Titanic, I just never stick around because thinking of all those people going into that water really saddens me. Even if I find myself above astral water, I freak out. I had a dream I was on a jet ski in the middle of the ocean at night and I became lucid and flipped the heck out, screaming "Ahhhhhhhhhh, the ocean!"

I absolutely cannot tolerate being anywhere near the water, not even astrally. Can't do it. If I project to the Titanic or go lucid in a Titanic dream, I usually stick to the inside where I see the architecture before the destruction. In my regular and lucid dreams, I've seen the chaos and destruction, and the screaming, but the times I've been there briefly in full astral consciousness, I just couldn't stick around to see all that water. I have issues with water in this incarnation.

Had too many nightmares where a skyscraper sized tidal wave kills me.   They should never have let me watch Deep Impact as a kid.

[mr_coffee]

I can totally understand your fear of the ocean.  I am too super freaked out by dark water although if I'm scuba diving its not scary but beautiful.  if I'm above the surface and can't see whats around me I'll always be uneasy.  Usually the only scary dreams I have anymore involves water and usually some feeling that something is going to eat me soon

If I'm presented water in the astral who knows what I would do.  I would probably attempt to change its color to make it not look like water but instead like liquid air and then jump in

[Fairywindblues]

I always wanted to just turn into a mermaid on the astral and breathe underwater. But instead, when I see dark astral water, I just go "No thanks" and reject the whole scenario. Hahaha. I'm such a chicken.