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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! => Topic started by: liquidPunk on September 08, 2003, 16:56:06

Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: liquidPunk on September 08, 2003, 16:56:06
nope, good luck with that, let us know how it goes.
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: shaman on September 09, 2003, 07:43:58
If I am not mistaken, it has to do with your level of energy when you project. Your physical body has some energy and your astral one has some too, with most of the energy in the physical usually. When you die all the energy leave the physical one and the OBE that NDEr experience are extremely vivid, precise, in the real time zone. If you project with not much energy in your astral body, then you'll be in the lower astral plane. You might need to work in your shakras to increase your energy level during AP. Also you can check that according to the vibrations it seems. The strongest the vibrations, the higher the energy level you reach during APing to the higher astral plane.

I hope someone will correct me or confirm, since this is only what I remember I have read, not what I have experienced. My experience is more with dreams than with AP.
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Kristina on September 09, 2003, 08:22:50
Actually, that makes quite good and simple sense to me.  Thank you.  

Anyone else care to confirm?
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Tab on September 09, 2003, 14:30:49
Well I can't comment from experience, only what I've learned. But from that, AFAIK it has more to do with the quality of energy than the level of energy. If your thoughts are more clouded and your emotions more afflicted with lower desires and ideas, you're more likely to be in tune with a lower realm.
Conversely, noble thoughts and higher feelings will more often put you on a higher plane.
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: WalkerInTheWoods on September 09, 2003, 15:31:07
I am going to agree with Tab. I think it has more to do with your thoughts and emotions. Likes attract on the astral so you will usually find yourself in a place that mirrors you. If you find yourself in undesirable places when you project, try looking at yourself and see what the problem is and work on your thoughts and feelings. Having a lot of energy will help, especially with etheric projections.
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Novice on September 09, 2003, 16:05:03
Based on my experience, I too agree with Tab.

Its not how much energy you have, but what the energy vibrates at that will place you in the astral. The higher the vibration (positive thoughts, etc) the higher the astral level you will be drawn to.

Although, I wouldn't necessarily classify the thoughts as noble, but rather pure or simple. And maybe its just symantics. Hope that helps!
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Kristina on September 09, 2003, 16:12:49
Great thoughts.  I am going to focus on raising the level or frequency of my vibrations from now on and see where that leads!
Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Nick on September 09, 2003, 18:14:55
It has been posted on other threads by Frank (unfortunately he's been away for a while) that in the astral "thought equals direct action". This concept rings true from what I've experienced so far with astral phasing. Further, as fallnangel77 mentioned, like atracts like on the astral. Thus, in large part, we do create our own reality.


Very best,

Title: How to avoid the lower astral plane?
Post by: Kristina on September 08, 2003, 14:05:59
Does anyone have any practical advice, based on solid experience and success, on how to avoid inadvertently projecting into the lower astral, right from the get-go?