whats on me!!!

[the8reader]

ok so i am not new to this at all.. but i do have some concerns and questions that i cant seem to answer.

1. when i am out or in a lucid dream doing my thing, i am in controll but sometimes there feels like a rope tied to my back pulling me places. What is this and does anyone else have this problem? also have noticed i can fight it, it takes alot but i can.

2. same kind of thing as the first. when i am running around or just anything. i have like this dark mask that tries to take over my face and i have to pull it off. the last time i did this i was just pulling bits off and regaining my sight. waht is this and dose this happen to anyone else?

the only thing i can come up with is one time i was out i was held down and these things put i mask or helmet on my head and put something on my back. but i thought it was onlly a dream. just need some imput.

[todd421757]

ok so i am not new to this at all.. but i do have some concerns and questions that i cant seem to answer.

1. when i am out or in a lucid dream doing my thing, i am in controll but sometimes there feels like a rope tied to my back pulling me places. What is this and does anyone else have this problem? also have noticed i can fight it, it takes alot but i can.

It's the silver cord that pulls on you anytime the etheric body is not in aligned with the physical body. It has its strongest pull between 1 to 15 feet from the body when you are projected in the real-time zone. You most likely did a slow projection exit from your solar plexus naval area (rollout or lifting up exit technique). If you separate through the top of your head, you don't get much of a pull from the silver cord.

The silver cord is thinner in the head region. It is very thick in the solar plexus naval area.

It took me years of frustration to figure the above out.

The link below is the most detailed description of the silver cord:

http://www.rosicrucian.com/scs/scseng01.htm

[the8reader]

im not near my body though. and it pulls me places. not just back to my body. eather way if that is the case then who is pulling on it if it not me and my body is out cold. it dosent pull me back to the body just places or spins me in circles.

[todd421757]

im not near my body though. and it pulls me places. not just back to my body. eather way if that is the case then who is pulling on it if it not me and my body is out cold. it dosent pull me back to the body just places or spins me in circles.

I wish I knew the answer to it. Describe the sequence on how you exit your body?

[the8reader]

all depends. alot of the time i am in a dream and i say hey im dreaming. at this point as i am in control and doing what i want is when it happens. so i will end it if i dont see me winning the pull. when i end it i feel myself come back to my body. i keep my eyes shut and dont move. i then do the roll out methed to get out of the body and then runn like hell to get away from my body. most of the time i just jump out the nearest window. then i am out for a bit and the mask tries to take over, and the bull begins. i can fight it but it takes alot of work and shortens my ap or ld moment. very trouble some. sometimes i will let it just pull me and it takes me to places then when im at that place i will explore and ussaly something in the area is trying to kill me or others. so idk haha.

[todd421757]

I believe it is the silver cord doing this to you.

In a lucid dream, the silver cord can still affect you. You fight the tug in the lucid dream and when you lose then you are back in your body woken up. You then attempt another OBE by rolling out and soon you find the tug again after you go through your window. The mask you are describing is when you start to lose clarity due to you are starting to lose the obe and start to fall into a dream (conscious or unconcious).

Here is a small chapter that talks about the fight with the silver cord:

http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap13.html

[the8reader]

see thats what i thought too. but it dosent bring me to my body. it takes me to aother places. i got back to my body cuz i chooses to start over. eather way it probably is the cord. annoying but part of the process i guess. as for the mask. i dont lose clarity maby i do but i do know that if i peel it off i regain clarity as we might call it. thanks for the info.

[todd421757]

You're right you can peel off the mask to regain clarity. You can say commands to you like "Clarity Now" or "Awareness Now" to regain focus to avoid slipping into a dream.

There are three authors Waldo Vieria, Sylvan Muldoon, and Synergy who all states the silver cord can sometimes act like a remote control. This means it would be like a tentacle that can direct you to different locations similar to a remote control can direct you to different channels. This might explain remote viewing.

Synergy also states the Near Death Experience tunnel is actually when your mental self (spiritual ego) travels through the silver cord.

Very fascinating stuff.

[the8reader]

yes it is. wonder if you can do that as an ap. travle threw the cord. haha may have to try haha.

[todd421757]

Synergy's book is free on his website:

http://www.spirit-quest.ca/Spirit-Quest.pdf

yes it is. wonder if you can do that as an ap. travle threw the cord. haha may have to try haha.

That would be interesting to try. I did have one friend that was successful at it. She traveled through the tunnel and saw the light at the end of it. I don't know what would happen if you traveled through the light. Hopefully that wouldn't lead to physical death. If you want the technique she used, let me know and I can send you a personal message.



 

[the8reader]

ya send it. seems like something i would like to dabble in. or maby find a way to take control of the remote.

[todd421757]

Okay, I sent it to you. Have fun exploring.

[the8reader]

thanx!

[Xanth]

ok so i am not new to this at all.. but i do have some concerns and questions that i cant seem to answer.

1. when i am out or in a lucid dream doing my thing, i am in controll but sometimes there feels like a rope tied to my back pulling me places. What is this and does anyone else have this problem? also have noticed i can fight it, it takes alot but i can.

My take... the silver cord doesn't fundamentally exist.  It's a metaphor people experience in the non-physical (or used to anyway, I haven't read many experiences anymore of people experiencing it) as a safety line of sorts. 

What you're experiencing here is a manifestation of your uncontrolled consciousness while in the non-physical taking you from place to place.  Learn to control your mind and this kind of auto-movement will cease.

2. same kind of thing as the first. when i am running around or just anything. i have like this dark mask that tries to take over my face and i have to pull it off. the last time i did this i was just pulling bits off and regaining my sight. waht is this and dose this happen to anyone else?

A manifestation of your fear of the unknown.  When it happens just relax.

the only thing i can come up with is one time i was out i was held down and these things put i mask or helmet on my head and put something on my back. but i thought it was onlly a dream. just need some imput.

Most likely the same kind of case as above, you need to figure out why these "entities" are holding you down and doing these things to you.  They represent a fear of some kind you hold... either consciously or subconsciously.

[the8reader]

no fear left, at least not when im out. i think its a contol thing. i hate not being in control. and i hate being held down or held back from something. deff dont fear anything i see when im out and about. the story about me being held down is when it all started. you are prob right but it just dosent feel like what is being said. it feels as if i am being held back from something. I would say deff feels like i am always being held back from something. i like to explore and see. idk thats y i come on here. need to hear another side of it so put it into something i can use to correct it. thanks for the info.

[todd421757]

My take... the silver cord doesn't fundamentally exist.  

I would like to know your theory on how the etheric body connects to the physical body if you don't believe a silver cord exists.

There has to be an energy link that maintains a direct connection to the physical body. Without an energy source, the physical body dies. There has to be an electromagnetic connection to fuel the body's physiological processes. Just like there is an umbilical connection that keeps the unborn fetus alive.

The silver cord is the etheric template for the vagus nerve (a.k.a. pneumogastric nerve) of the physical body.

I felt this energetic connection way before I read about it.

I haven't read many experiences anymore of people experiencing it.  

That's because most people are not doing etheric projection anymore.

There seems to be a strong desire on this forum to discredit the space-time theory of ether, and to say everything that happens is in the mind. To me that is limiting your potential.

[Lionheart]

 Limitations dissolve with practice! The more you go there, the more familiar the environment becomes.

[the8reader]

That's because most people are not doing etheric projection anymore.

this is how i learned to ap. guess i am old school haha

[todd421757]

this is how i learned to ap. guess i am old school haha

I am old school too. Lets be proud of it

[the8reader]

i think this is also y my aps are much diffrent then others.

[Lionheart]

 Old school is what got us here. Never forget the pioneers that laid down the groundwork! 

[todd421757]

 

[Xanth]

I would like to know your theory on how the etheric body connects to the physical body if you don't believe a silver cord exists.

I don't believe an "etheric body" is something fundamental.  There is only consciousness... not a mess of body after body.  Everything is a metaphor people use to describe their experiences through their interpretation.  A silver cord is the metaphor people use such as a diver (from the old days) used a hose of air from the surface.  It's a life line that people a lot of people are learning to discard now-a-days.  It's a fear based metaphor.

There has to be an energy link that maintains a direct connection to the physical body. Without an energy source, the physical body dies. There has to be an electromagnetic connection to fuel the body's physiological processes. Just like there is an umbilical connection that keeps the unborn fetus alive.

As I said, there is only consciousness.  Everything is one. 

The silver cord is the etheric template for the vagus nerve (a.k.a. pneumogastric nerve) of the physical body.

I felt this energetic connection way before I read about it.

You felt something.  You found a definition which seemingly defined what you felt.
My suggestion... drop the external definition and try to come up with your own internally.
That's the next step.

That's because most people are not doing etheric projection anymore.

"etheric"...
"astral"...
All a matter of perspective in my opinion.

From my perspective, nobody has ever been doing either. 

It's a matter of opening yourself up beyond someone else's description of their experiences and finding what YOUR description is.

[todd421757]

Xanth, thanks for your reply.