hypnogogic images to full dreaming after using ootb phrases

[blidge]

Hi all, its been a while since I've been on but thought id share my experience from last night. Went to bed at the usual time and woke up in the early hours.  I started saying to myself "im out of body" over and over again. Soon started going back to sleep and as I was I realised that in the blackness behind my eyes I could see a colidescope of images.  These images I could control by desire meaning as my imagination kicked in I could see anything I desired, and did in a tunnel colidescope kind of way.

Through this I could still feel my body in bed but kept enough awareness to keep my visions on going.  I imagined a robot (dont ask why)  and was able to kit it out to look like a transformer like optimus prime all by will, I could make it look how I wanted.
After that a full dream scenario took over which I won't go into.

Ive read somewhere and for the life of me I can't find it now that there is a way of having an ootb while being in an hypnogogic state. Only this time I didn't try to exit my body as the thought never came to me, only afterwards i wish it had. What technique can I use for when I do have the Images again in order to project in the RTZ?

Thanks

[Astralzombie]

It's just a matter of gaining your awareness at the right time.

I'm realizing that I'm not the right person to be giving advice to people who are struggling to have an OOBE. It was rather easy for me so I don't intimately understand all the frustrations though I do on an academic level. I am not trying to brag but rather I am pointing out the gap or gulf that exists between the experienced and the new initiate.

There are some stickies from some members that detailed their steps to success. Contenteo and PersonalReality come to mind. They give tips and advice that only someone who just recently succeeded can really offer. It always, always, always, comes down to the little things and we each struggle with a different little thing. For Contenteo, I believe he said it was how he was resting his jaw and teeth.

Good luck.

[LightBeam]

when you are in the hypnagogic state and you gain enough awareness to realize that you want to get out, they easiest way to "separate" is to think that you are standing next to your bed. That is my technique when I reach that point. Don't forget, your thoughts are your navigation.

[blidge]

There are some stickies from some members that detailed their steps to success. Contenteo and PersonalReality come to mind.

Good luck.

Ill have a look for what they suggest, thanks

[Astralzombie]

Their posts are older but they wrote them when they first succeeded. I have all kinds of advice on the basics but you have reached the stage where you're so close, that you just need that last piece to fall in place.

Reading and thinking about OOBE will help reinforce your subconscious (I don't like that word) and will probably eventually lead to a spontaneous OOBE.

Good luck.

[blidge]

when you are in the hypnagogic state and you gain enough awareness to realize that you want to get out, they easiest way to "separate" is to think that you are standing next to your bed. That is my technique when I reach that point. Don't forget, your thoughts are your navigation.

Many thanks for the tip and I do find that if I'm patient enough for long enough images start to appear so I will have the intent of that thought at that point in the future.

Even though in the past every time Ive projected ive managed it through being aware just as the energy vibrations are easing off and at that point I exit, but in recent times even getting to that stage is becoming challenging.

I have another question if you can answer. Upon exiting ive read individuals can just transport themselves to a given destination just by thinking it, I navigate from my bedroom by having to either walk straight through a wall to get outside or my bedroom door. All these efforts tend to lead to loss of projection even though I say out loud"vision now, energy now and clarity now".

My commands work but was wondering are you able to simply transport yourself or do u just walk etc?
Thanks

[blidge]

Their posts are older but they wrote them when they first succeeded. I have all kinds of advice on the basics but you have reached the stage where you're so close, that you just need that last piece to fall in place.

Reading and thinking about OOBE will help reinforce your subconscious (I don't like that word) and will probably eventually lead to a spontaneous OOBE.

Good luck.

Yes about 1.5 years ago when I started getting back into it I had far more experiences through reading and talking about it so yes if its in my mind more often and I keep with the research this will help me, thanks.  I know its just a matter of time.
Quick question for you,  when your' out and about' how do you travel? Meaning do you use thought transportation, walk or fly?

[LightBeam]

are you able to simply transport yourself or do u just walk etc?
Thanks

In the beginning of my OBEs after I was "out" I used to check my immediate surroundings, walk around, go through walls, etc. But  now I usually set goals for each week and I remember exactly where do I want to go, or what do I wish to find out. So, after I separate I immediately think where I want to be with my hardest intention and the next instance I am pulled trough something that feels like a vacuum or a wormhole. That sensation lasts about two seconds during which I have no vision and I feel like I cant breathe (although in the astral you don't have to lol, but while we have physical bodies, I guess we will always carry certain beliefs and automatic reflexes). I find it a little unpleasant because in real life I have a slight claustrophobia. So, my suggestion is to perceed according to your liking. If you see something interesting in your immediate surroundings, or see someone there, stay and try to observe and communicate. If you seem like things are hazy and you have no vision, then think about a place you want to be and you will be "teleported" so to speak.

[blidge]

Many thanks I will try with real Intent and have a place in mind where I want to be. If I see someone or thing ill investgate and proceed.

One last question.  In my mind I think of all the places where we cant easily get to or visit in waking life such as off our planet, into the heart of a volcano, inside the earth or beneath the ocean.  Do you have any intent to travel to places like that and have you? Id find once im able to have some kind of consistency re projection thats exactly what id do.

Thanks for all your help.

[LightBeam]

One last question.  In my mind I think of all the places where we cant easily get to or visit in waking life such as off our planet, into the heart of a volcano, inside the earth or beneath the ocean.  Do you have any intent to travel to places like that and have you? Id find once im able to have some kind of consistency re projection thats exactly what id do.

Thanks for all your help.

In a heart of a volcano  lol, I would be scared. I have never thought of it. But I have been beneath the ocean, although I think that it was not in our reality, or it might have been Atlantis. I ended up there one time, but not by intent. At first I freaked out because I thought that could not breathe, but then I realized that I was fine and started exploring. The sensation was weird being under water type of environment in a higher frequency reality. I felt slight resistance walking/ swimming. I did not feel the wetness of the water around me, but I did feel that I was submerged in a different substance. It was quite pleasant actually. The underwater world was  very beautiful, looking like a Greek garden with lots of white statues, beautiful vegetation and flowers. I could not see any creatures there but I was sensing presence, that someone was watching me.

[blidge]

Fascinating and exciting it sound, what an experience.  Thank you for getting back to me.  There are just so many places where I want to travel to and experience and for me I will just have to be patient so I can tell an experience just like yours.

See you on the astral side..
Thanks

[LightBeam]

I will just have to be patient so I can tell an experience just like yours.

See you on the astral side..
Thanks

I am sure it will happen. Experiment with different techniques if one does not work. But stick with each and practice it consistently for at lest a month. Then move to try another until you find what works for you. Many beginners repeat certain routines for months without results. It should not take that long. I was stuck for years doing meditation at the wrong time of the day and nothing. When attempted William Buhlman's visualization/motion technique while falling asleep, it happened in three weeks. I almost could not believe that it was that easy. So, experiment with techniques, bit try to be consistence for at least a month with each.

[Szaxx]

This may be helpful. You've described enough that fits the bill perfectly.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

[blidge]

I am sure it will happen. Experiment with different techniques if one does not work. But stick with each and practice it consistently for at lest a month. Then move to try another until you find what works for you. Many beginners repeat certain routines for months without results. It should not take that long. I was stuck for years doing meditation at the wrong time of the day and nothing. When attempted William Buhlman's visualization/motion technique while falling asleep, it happened in three weeks. I almost could not believe that it was that easy. So, experiment with techniques, bit try to be consistence for at least a month with each.

I guess my affirmations that worked for me for the majority of my experiences have now seemed to have dried up even though my technique once worked over a period but no longer does. So ill try your way for a month or so then move on.

Been doing this long enough just want the consistency I once had to continue.  Thanks again.

[blidge]

This may be helpful. You've described enough that fits the bill perfectly.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_astral_blueprint-t38729.0.html

Wow thanks.  Will repost once ive read and practiced etc what ive read.
Thanks

[Astralzombie]

Quick question for you,  when your' out and about' how do you travel? Meaning do you use thought transportation, walk or fly?

It really just depends on the situation. I usually hold my self to physical laws so walking is my main mode of transportation. I usually fly only when I am in a fun or light-hearted scenario or when the exact opposite is true. What's weird in those cases is that I'm not thinking about flying but rather I am in such fear for my safety that I just think about doing whatever it takes to get out of the way of, say a large wave crashing down on a pier is one example that I vividly recall. But flying above the wave wasn't my only option. I could have stopped the wave with just a thought or I could have used countless other tactics.

This is why I think it's important to try and get something out of every experience. Although I wouldn't say that I wasted time, I spent many years without fully utilizing each experience. So take every opportunity that you can remember and fly. More than that, "bring" whatever it is that you want to see to you instead of going to it. I've also learned how valuable telepathy is as well as blocking others from reading your thoughts.

I'm not a stick in the mud by any measure but most of my OOBE are serious in nature. I am always "thrown" into the middle of a crazy scenario and I have to gain my bearings quickly or I am being tested. I think this as a lot to do with our personalities and what are individual motives and goals are for having OOBE in the first place.

Everything is really just a thought away. However, remembering that is another story .