Can't pass the Vibrations

[Volgerle]

After a while of this I heard a voice (I'm not sure if it was there or I was imagining it but it said) "You are floating out of your body then I said it and thenit said it for awhile.

I had this voice thing once too. Speaking the affirmation for me. It was a beautiful female voice. I'm a man but to this very day I consider it to have been an expression of my Higher Self helping me. It was one of my first projections also at a time when I had difficulties with making the "exit", too.

Actually it has even a funny and ironic aspect in hindsight. My affirmation was "I am out of body now" without noticing that I already were and the voice tried to tell me. Here's a quote from the actual experience back then (January 2010, from my online journal), maybe you will find yours similar to this one:

(...) My affirmation, which then was the same as used in 2009: "I am out-of-body now." suddenly 'switched' and it was said by a different voice. Not just the voice was changed though. The way of speaking, such as intonation, articulation, mood, emotive and 'personality' additions was completely changed, too. That means: It sounded like another person entirely.

And it was a WOMAN. And yet: it was ME SPEAKING this and not someone else. So don't be mistaken: it is NOT at all comparable to a kind of modulation of one's own voice (such as speaking through a sound system into a mike with effects on, or by inhaling helium). It was me speaking as another person. I also heard the voice from a bit farther off, but still clear and loud. Actually, when I think of it again, I believe it was 'everywhere' (in my head and outside around me) and I could not attribute it to any point in the (physical) room. The voice was beautiful, angelic, soft, tender, empathetic, and as it seemed it tried its best to to reassure and soothe me.

Now the funny thing: It might not have been a AFF-irmation at all but rather a CON-firmation !!!

That means (from today's view only, of course) that I already was out of my body, because I used the roll-out 'technique' - without knowing it. So the voice possibly just stated to me that I just could have gotten up and walked away, while I was still lying there, arms raised waiting for the exit to happen, on my back with my energy body, but thinking it was my physical body. That one, however was still lying 'unmoved' on the side! Not knowing this, I broke off the attempt. Only to wake up and wonder why I was - again - lying on my side now. (...)

In other words, there is a striking insight: It is in fact highly possible that you were already 'out' or 'loosened' enough. You just didn't move but could have. Next time, maybe you just get up from bed, you need not to 'float' up.

It's the same 'joke' my HS played with me back then that your HS playes with you. The voice was TELLING you that at that exact time you actually ALREAD WERE out-of-body "floating".

Just consider again (literally!) what you wrote and pay attention to the first 3 words:

"YOU ARE FLOATING out of your body then I said it and thenit said it for awhile."

Here, "be floating" doesn't mean it's a dynamic thing, it could mean that the voice actually was telling you all the time about the "static" situation, the desired result already achieved: You were already out-of body and could have moved on into the Astral. You just didn't get it (just like me back then). You were still waiting for sth to happen although it already had happened!  

[todd421757]

Volgerle gave a very informative post. I believe it is correct.

[PeaceandLove]

Thanks Volgerle I'll be sure to keep that in mind fo tonight or possibly in an hour if I deside totry itout during the day instead. My main problem is that when I try to move my astral body I move my  physical body instrad and break the prosses.

[todd421757]

My main problem is that when I try to move my astral body I move my  physical body instrad and break the prosses.

Try to forget your physical body even exists while you are practicing your obe's and you are floating. Shut off all your physical senses. Tell yourself only your energy body exists. 

[PeaceandLove]

Thanks that sounds like it might work I'm definetly going to try that

[PeaceandLove]

Last night I downloaded a binaular beat to see if that could help me help. I lied down in my bed before sleep like always and listen to this 9 minute track over and over. After the first to minutes I was vibrating and in another minute I felt like I was floating and couldn't feel my body the vibrating was so intense. I tried to get out of my physical a bunch of different ways but I just kept on moving my physical not my astral. I forgot about my physical for about 10 minutes and I could see my surroundings perfectly though my eyelids of what was above me but I felt like I was floating at a 90 degrees angles instead of lieing down this time. It was different. After multiple attempts I sat up (in my physical and felt the vibrating still so that was weird I tried every technique I know to get out of the body and it felt like  I was ready but it just wasn't happening so I went to sleep.

[todd421757]

Practice your obe technique when you are more tired. Your physical body is obviously still awake since your physical moves when you try to move your soul.

Also sometimes it is best not to try too hard when practicing your obe technique. Practicing too hard can create too much tension.

[PeaceandLove]

ok I am going to most likely give it a brake tonight because of I'm going to a concert but I'm going to do it tommorow instead and as I siad earlier I will not give up.

[todd421757]

Another thing you can try is setting the alarm or you can set your internal clock to wake yourself up every few hours. Get up for a a little bit and then go back to sleep. Each time you go back to sleep try to keep enough awareness to have an obe. You can practice your obe technique multiple times every night this way. Plus, your physical body will fall asleep quickly every time.

Once you get good at this way, you can have an obe very quick with little energy wasted.

Some people can't practice this way though because they need a complete uninterrupted sleep. For me, I don't need a continuous sleep to feel refreshed.

[PeaceandLove]

Thanks Todd I ussually am waking up every couple of hours but I didn't realize you could try it morethen onceper night

[PeaceandLove]

I am getting lazier and lazier about it I still believe it in it andtry it every night but I don't have the same patience as when I started it's just diminishing. Last night I could see through my eyelids and I could lift my whole astral except my head out of my physical it was frustrating. Because I just can't seem to move my head everything else I can at least wiggle or get out completely but my head is like an anvil wherever I leave it ain't gonna budge.

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[bproulx12]

You are like me, Stuck, I do not know if it is vibrations, which may be a different intensity to others, but to me it feels more of energy going thru me, I think as beginners the idea is to try something that will work. Just read this:

[url]http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/i_need_some_help-t37960.0.html/url]

[PeaceandLove]

Now when I get the feeling like am going to leave my body and I feel but don't 100% see myself out of my body. I can still feel my physical and then my Astral feels like it is standing upright staring at the wall and I can see it in my head. But when I do this I feel really sick now. Every time I try to astral travel I get a sick feeling in my stomach and my head starts to hurt. It just feels weird and I don't know if it is normal or bad.

[todd421757]

But when I do this I feel really sick now. Every time I try to astral travel I get a sick feeling in my stomach and my head starts to hurt.

I believe you are trying to force your energy body away from your physical body. It also seems you are having an projection exit through your solar plexus (abdomen). This should be avoided if you want a projection with full awareness. There are multiple projection exits. Here are some examples. There may be more than this.

1) through the top of the head (either the anterior fontanelle or the posterior fontanelle)
2) through the soles of the feet
3) through the chest
4) through the solar plexus
5) through the space between the eyebrows (glabella)

I would recommend trying to exit from #1.

The following link contains some further information about this.

http://www.esotericscience.org/article14a.htm

[PeaceandLove]

Does that mean I HAVE to face north to astral project becuase that is not possible...

[Bedeekin]

You don't need to face in any special direction. I have had OOBEs in vehicles on the move... and once on a plane going to Spain. East.. west... south... north... north north west sitting in a chair. Any direction.

If you felt sick and woozy it may be that you have an inner ear problem (I excrement you not) or something that is causing a mis-match of focus... Your dual awareness can cause wooziness and the perception of a headache. Imagine it like sea sickness, travel sickness or a merry-go-round. Your perception is lying down and standing up at the same time. This can mess with how your brain is interpreting balance.

I have felt woozy a few times. On these occasions the experience had a vertigo like awareness to it. 

[PeaceandLove]

Thanks I tried exiting through my head instead and I still got a pounding headache and then lightheaded and exactly how you put it I felt sea sick or woozy. I can't get passed it because whenever I feel that I just can't take it anymore and I turn on my side and fall asleep. Is there any way to pass the feeling or ignore because I really want to astral project.

[Bedeekin]

Try projecting on your side maybe. I only say this because you rolled over to your side afterwards.

Lying on your side to project is beneficial anyway because it also reduces the pushing down sensation.. or the restricted breathing issues that some people experience.

Another thing is that seems to have caused the wooziness is when I've tried separating without priming myself with a nap. Only a few times. The first time was when I tried the rope method. I felt in the right state but without vibrations... and when I tried pulling up I felt a dizzy strobing like effect.

[Xanth]

I project quite often lying on my side.

For me, it's a breathing issue.  I snore on my back. 

[PeaceandLove]

OK I'll try that but I don't feel butt relaxed on my side and I seem to fall asleep easier. As well I though none of your body parts could be overlapping one another and when I'm on my side my hand is under my head.

[Bedeekin]

The overlapping body parts thing is another myth. It doesn't matter where your hands are.

[PeaceandLove]

Thanks I wasn't sure but I didn't want to risk it.

[PeaceandLove]

I tried again and originally I was freezing cold but after A while I was extremely hot myfeet felt like I was on fire and I felt like I was out of my body but I wasn't quite sure It was really weird.