Has anyone got a soul to the light?

[itheblaze]

 There are 2 deceaed boys 3 and 9 living at my mom's. The 3yr old died before his time and has to stay here intil his pre-ordained death was supposed to have been. Sam, the 9 year old, seems in a daydream at times and is hard to hold his attention. He knows he is dead but doesn't seem to want to leave. the littlest one seems set, but I have been trying to get Sam to a higher plain. Its so dark where they are, and they only go out in the yard at night. Have any of you gotten a soul to a higher plain? If so, please post. Thankyou.

[Goober]

Just tell them "Go to the light, it is not scary. There is someone waiting for you there, I promise."

Or something to that effect.

[itheblaze]

 I have done that and will continue, but some things take time and I will have to gain their trust. What's interesting, is the 3 yr old looks just like my 7yr old autistic son. I think he came here when he died because he might would see my mom as Grandmaw. Or at least feel some attachment because of pictures of my son in house.

[Vvid1012]

A thought just occured to me while reading this...  I wonder if persons spirit is afraid to goto the light for fear of losing one's identity.

[outofbodydude]

I have several times.  What I would do is call out for a helper.  When one entered my perception, I would state my intent to retrieve a soul who is stuck in a lower level of the afterlife.  I would follow the helper to a soul, never knowing where I would end up.  These helpers' vibrations are much higher than the lost soul's vibrations, therefore being out of their normal perception.  What I would do is figure out who the being is, where they are and why they are there, just for personal knowledge.  I would then introduce the helper I am with to the being I am talking to.  It is possible to bring a higher level being into the perception of the lower level being simply by letting the soul know there is actually someone there to help them.  Once they accept this they are able to percieve the helper.  The helper at this point takes over, communicating with the soul and taking them off to the higher levels.  Usually after following them, we end up in a park, which is apparently the main place we go upon death(being that we do not get caught in any belief system territories).  You can read about some of my retrievals in my Gateway Experience Journals.

[itheblaze]

 Thankyou so. There is the case of a miner that died almost a century ago and still haunting the place, telling people to get off HIS claim. Greed is keeping him here.

[Novice]

I think its great that you want to help them. But I don't think you can 'move' someone to a higher plane unless they are ready and willing to do it themselves. People who help with retrievals don't ask to help move a specific person, which is what you are attempting to do. They ask for a guide to take them to someone who is ready or close to being ready -- there's a difference. The next time you are able, I would ask a guide for their suggestions. It could be that the boys are there because they are not ready to move on -- kinda like your old prospector. If people hang on to things that weigh them down, they are literally unable to 'move up' until they release the weight themselves. Basically you can't help someone if they aren't willing and ready to help themselves.

I could be way off -- but that's what struck me as I read your post.

[outofbodydude]

People who help with retrievals don't ask to help move a specific person, which is what you are attempting to do. They ask for a guide to take them to someone who is ready or close to being ready -- there's a difference.

That is exactly what I do, and exactly what I described.  I suppose you did not read my Journals, or my above post for that matter.  But its okay, no biggie.

[Novice]

That is exactly what I do, and exactly what I described.  I suppose you did not read my Journals, or my above post for that matter.  But its okay, no biggie.

Not trying to steal your thunder or anything. And yes I read your first response through before I posted. I reiterated your reference to calling for guide for a specific reason that I did not see in your post. That is to explain that if these two boys are not ready and willing to 'move up' there is nothing she can do to make them.

My point in referencing your process was to illustrate the difference between what she is trying to do versus the way in which you and others who do retrieval's work. That difference being allowing a guide to take you to someone who they know is ready to move on. Unless you are particularly evolved, and I don't think anyone working with their 'physical level consciousness' (for lack of better words) can be considered evolved, you are unable to identify when someone is ready to move on or not. So instead of spending her time trying to get these two boys on to the next realm when they may not be ready, perhaps she should check with a guide and see if her attempts are worthwhile. And if not, then let them be and focus on other things.

That was the message I was attempting to send in my post as I hadn't understood this possibility mentioned in any of the other replies. If, however, you were explaining that as well and I missed it, then I apologize.

Hope that explains what I posted and why! 

Oh, and you are correct on your first point. I have not read any of your journal posts. Don't be offended though, I don't read anyone's journal posts. Probably for the same reason I don't post any of mine. I'm just a somewhat private person. Other's love to share all of the details, but that just isn't me. As you say 'no biggie.'

[itheblaze]

 They are probably not ready, but when I can, I'll just visit and talk. I learn this way. I just want to bring a little light in their lives is all.  My Guide has prevented me from going back. Probably cause I'm so bent on saving them. I just have to let go of this which is hard. I know I'm being tested here.

[Hagethuriel]

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