Inception - Nonsense or not?

Fourthdimension · May 16, 2011, 11:23:03

Hey guys,

I took the week off to chill and relax and enjoy myself and during that process i enjoyed the movie Inception.
Firstly, i was pretty high when watching this movie and it was so surreal and amazing so if i make any mistakes about the role or storyline its probally because i was'nt straight headed when i watched it.

For any that dont know the storyline i thought it was about mind control. How we can be made to shift consiousness between different realities and just as when dreaming most of the time not realise anythig had changed. There is then a team of architects, forgers ad other job roles such as chemist who extract information or implant information and ideas in te persons mind via dream state. the architech creates the dream scape and the more obscure and unfamilliar the landscape is to the dreamer the more the person realises it is a dream . There is also a role for the subconsious in this film which defends itself like whiteblood cells defend the body but the subconsious defends itself from implant and extracted information and the people responsible for this and the lead guy has a subconsious problem about the role his wife played in his wife and so gets attacked by his subconsious also.

Great movie .

I was just curious about this.......

Ok , well we all know lucid dreaming is possible and used by psychology so since that is more reliable tha bringing projection into this lets just stick with ld

Now , lets theorise without assuming things , lets theorise that dreaming is a shared ,social type interaction. where dreamers interact with each other and each others dream scape where there is a lot of subconsious effects underlying the whole dream.

Now giving this as fact for the time been which of course it is nt fact but just for theorie sake lets say it is.

IF all the above is true then that means the idea of stealing information or planting ideas . it makes it possible. giving that the majority dont know there dreaming and only a few can really use the dream to great potential.

I truly belief that this would be possible.
without been a conspiracy theorist i could just imagine what would happen if goverments got there hands on this type of technology if they have nt all ready.

the power of been able to do this is limitless.

on the other hand maybe am talking rubbish

take care

Summerlander · May 16, 2011, 11:43:05

Nonsense? Well...yes and no. The fact that when you visit people in Mode 2 OOBEs and appear to see what was on their minds at the time, appear at times to speak to something which, my best guess is that it is a representation of their unconscious selves pretty much tells me that not everything in Inception is fiction. Shared dreaming would also back this up and the Tenoi tribe of Malasia have a lot of experience with this as it is part of their culture to talk about dreams at breakfast...it's another life.

The lucid dreaming element is obvious. You can do this. Anyone can. Reality checks can be effective. The "architect" concept in the film is nonsense. You don't need architects. You can also visit someone regardless of whether they are asleep or awake. The "inception" concept (planting an idea in someone's mind) is another matter, I don't know whether this is possible or not but it doesn't seem feasible. Even in hypnosis, you cannot make someone do something that goes against their morals...even in a highly suggestive state. Even if you could do an "inception" on someone, there would be no way to tell whether it really worked or not. How would you know for sure that the idea the individual had, after your dream visit, was a result of this and not a manifestation of his/her mind which happened to coincide with your dream?

There is such a thing as 'dream incubation' but it is more evident on a personal level. You can certainly appear to obtain information from those you visit in OOBEs and lucid dreams, either 'mind stuff', the gist of what they are doing in the physical (as in slightly inaccurate replicas of waking reality in Mode 2 OOBEs) and seemingly accurate info (Mode 1 OOBEs) but as for influencing or controlling someone's mind like in Inception...well, that's the science-fictiony part in my opinion. But who knows...what is science-fiction today may become a different story tomorrow. Hollywood tends to spice things up anyway. It's all about the spice for sales...

Stookie_ · May 16, 2011, 12:18:33

It's a pretty good movie, but a terrible documentary.

Xanth · May 16, 2011, 12:19:43

Quote from: Stookie_ on May 16, 2011, 12:18:33
It's a pretty good movie, but a terrible documentary.

LOL I'll second that.

personalreality · May 16, 2011, 13:41:35

Quote from: Stookie_ on May 16, 2011, 12:18:33
It's a pretty good movie, but a terrible documentary.

third

SikWilly · May 16, 2011, 15:12:24

Fourth... Great movie though.

CFTraveler · May 16, 2011, 18:02:25

I liked it.

AstralBlogger · May 16, 2011, 18:17:37

Fifth i liked it though

Tee1234 · May 16, 2011, 19:59:44

Quote from: Fourthdimension on May 16, 2011, 11:23:03
Hey guys,

I took the week off to chill and relax and enjoy myself and during that process i enjoyed the movie Inception.
Firstly, i was pretty high when watching this movie and it was so surreal and amazing so if i make any mistakes about the role or storyline its probally because i was'nt straight headed when i watched it.

For any that dont know the storyline i thought it was about mind control. How we can be made to shift consiousness between different realities and just as when dreaming most of the time not realise anythig had changed. There is then a team of architects, forgers ad other job roles such as chemist who extract information or implant information and ideas in te persons mind via dream state. the architech creates the dream scape and the more obscure and unfamilliar the landscape is to the dreamer the more the person realises it is a dream . There is also a role for the subconsious in this film which defends itself like whiteblood cells defend the body but the subconsious defends itself from implant and extracted information and the people responsible for this and the lead guy has a subconsious problem about the role his wife played in his wife and so gets attacked by his subconsious also.

Great movie .

I was just curious about this.......

Ok , well we all know lucid dreaming is possible and used by psychology so since that is more reliable tha bringing projection into this lets just stick with ld

Now , lets theorise without assuming things , lets theorise that dreaming is a shared ,social type interaction. where dreamers interact with each other and each others dream scape where there is a lot of subconsious effects underlying the whole dream.

Now giving this as fact for the time been which of course it is nt fact but just for theorie sake lets say it is.

IF all the above is true then that means the idea of stealing information or planting ideas . it makes it possible. giving that the majority dont know there dreaming and only a few can really use the dream to great potential.

I truly belief that this would be possible.
without been a conspiracy theorist i could just imagine what would happen if goverments got there hands on this type of technology if they have nt all ready.

the power of been able to do this is limitless.

on the other hand maybe am talking rubbish

take care

I liked it. Didnt like the way that they can plant things in peoples heads but I went with it. I basically like any movie that relates to dreams or OBEs..
I thought Insidious was great. Not sure if its still in theatres anymore but its about AP, if ya didnt see it. Also there's a movie coming out soon called Silver Cord starring Val Kilmer n Eric Belfoure.-another one about obes.

Looks like Hollywood is starting to notice our little world a bit.

Lexy · May 16, 2011, 23:36:21

I liked it because I notice some truths in it but I thought it was a little cheesy.

Contenteo · May 17, 2011, 02:53:33

I like the movie, but don't like that fact whenever Astral Projection pops into conversation, people immediately refer to inception as if it were a documentary and they know what they are talking about.

Fourthdimension · May 17, 2011, 13:24:02

What about "the last airbender" What do you all think of that. i know its just a fairytale but some people (not me) believe in magik and i think some have beliefs as such about the elements.

the films is suitable for all ages and is really unexpected.

Worth a watch. Anyone else got any film recomendations?

I also recommend "the sourcerers apprentice" it has nicholas cage in it and its predictable but nevertheless watchable . 7/10 or maybe 6/10

CFTraveler · May 17, 2011, 13:37:17

I liked it but I didn't like the casting.

Fourthdimension · May 17, 2011, 13:41:23

which one did nt you like Cft?

Jilt · May 17, 2011, 13:45:32

"The Cell" deals with LDs in an interesting way.

"What the Bleep Do We Know" is also of metaphysical interest.

CFTraveler · May 17, 2011, 13:45:41

I didn't like that this is supposed to be in China, and the main characters are white. Even if the areas they were in were in the north in 'ancient times', the people that were in the steppes in ancient times were Mongols, and not caucasians.
Little things like that.
I liked the actors fine, and the landscapes were awesome.

Fourthdimension · May 17, 2011, 14:05:59

oh your talking about the last airbender cft ? yeah it was a bit corny i guess haha but i enjoyed it proballly because i dont usually watch films which are pg lol so i found it relaxing

whats "what the bleep do we know"? is it a film ?

thanks guys

CFTraveler · May 17, 2011, 17:20:50

What the bleep is a film that was released around four-five years ago (It was released when I was working at my church and I convinced the minister to look at it). She loved it so much we showed it at church.
It's one of the first mass-released movies about science and consciousness, to put it simply.

Lexy · May 17, 2011, 23:30:16

there is that movie "what dreams may come"

Xanth · May 17, 2011, 23:32:06

Quote from: Lexy on May 17, 2011, 23:30:16
there is that movie "what dreams may come"

Oh, I really liked that one.
I found it to be very close to what I believe is the truth.

djed · May 18, 2011, 02:58:34

I was disapointed in the film, didnt see it at a theatre tho. my biggest gripe was the music was louder than the dialogue.
The dialogue was too heavy and all over the place in fact i think it was badly written. I had to watch it at two sittings as I got bored. People are telling me that source code is a better movie.
To be honest I think it was a little over my head lol

CFTraveler · May 18, 2011, 10:47:59

Quote from: Lexy on May 17, 2011, 23:30:16
there is that movie "what dreams may come"

Yes, but it was more of a metaphor. WTB was more like a documentary, and that was different for most people.

pondini · May 18, 2011, 14:25:51

imho, inception seemed like it was derived from philip k. willy's The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldridge. if they make that into a film -and get it right- it will be a potent film!

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