Interacting in RTZ, unknowingly.

[Grantinberg]

Hi everyone!  

Found this forum last year, but I thought it was about time to join in the fun, and register.

A little back story: In 2008, I finally achieved my first fully conscious OBE. Then for about a year I was having many, many dreams, and lucid dreams. I remember contemplating after dreaming- sadly, I didn't write down much of my earlier dreams. Then came end of May 2009, where I realized my dreams- and lucid dreams- were not just that, but were also precog! The tipping point of my sanity was during job training in Az- I, from Ca- where most of what I dreamt came true there. By Wednesday/Thursday of the week, I was bracing for a nervous breakdown.

Anyways the two experiences that I want to share came to fruition the day I arrived home from job training, Friday, and the proceeding Monday at work.

I know these to be true, yet explaining them makes me sound either like a nut case or just fooling around- but I AM NOT. I am here because I don't understand and Im looking for any opinions, and rationale.

Here is goes- please remember these two 'dreams' occurred around October of 2008:

'Dream' 1; the night of Friday after I just arrived home from the airport, sitting at home, I decided to watch 'Ghost Adventures' on the Travel Channel (Season 2 premiere: Preston Castle, aired June 5, 2009).   The many lucid dreams I had months previous, about wanting to move beds while trying to fly, fly about a dingy dark room and scare frightened people, fly into a camera, and observing the situations as they happened- was what I was actually watching on my television screen!!!   It sounds super crazy, and at the time I thought I had gone crazy. I was experiencing my lucid dreams from another perspective, and witnessed others reacting to my 'dream' actions in a vvery physical manner.

I have no idea- was my consciousness somehow linked to this show because I would be watching it in the future, was I what the 'Ghost Adventure' team perceived as ghosts?   I was the camera lens, a flying free spirit, the observer, that "scared/demonized" spirit, and the "dominating" spirit- I remember dreaming all of this months before.   I remember waking up saying to myself, "Why the hell am I dreaming about this? I don't even like the show?" I had, at the time, not watched one episode, only commercials.

'Dream' 2; I'm in some classroom, and there I see a large cartoon-ish hot-rod painted on the back right wall.  I know I'm having a lucid dream, however so, I get giggly and very mischievous! I for some reason wanted to poke this person that is now standing in front of me. I poke her. I poked her as hard as I could on the back of her right shoulder. She jumps as she screams. I wake up.

The Monday following the week of training, our financial aid office had moved into a classroom due to remodeling.  I sat down, and still not knowing anyone as I was a new employee, I didn't move my eyes about the room much.   About a half hour goes by in this classroom- I notice this hot-rod painted across the room (I worked for an auto motive school in Sacramento).   My jaw was dropping as I was witnessing what I dreamt a few months previous.  Then all of a sudden, my supervise jumps, breaking the silences in the room screaming! I mean she really SCREAMED. I saw her across the room looking behind her, as she was laughing saying, "did someone just poke me?!"   Though no one around her, she was still rubbing her wound.  I didn't know what to do. I just gripped my jaw, as my eyes started to water. I didn't say anything to her then, and haven't said anything to her at all about it.


All these experiences really made be think about the origins of déjà vu, what a 'ghost' encounters might seem to mean, how far lucid dreams can go, and how much OBEs can interlace with the physical?

Any thoughts?

Thank you Team for taking the time to read my post,
Harji

[Contenteo]

These occurrences happen more often then I think anyone who is proficient would like to admit. The widely held term is false awakenings.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Grantinberg]

Thank you for responding.

I thought a 'false awakening' was when one's dreaming, he or she wake up... go about their business, then actually wake up; "Dream within a dream"?

Sorry if I was clear. Typing on my phone seems much stressing lol

But to be clear, in October of 2008 I had a multitude of dreams/lucid dreams (must be something more than that), in where I moved objects, touched people, and a lot of other things.  Then in May/June of 2009, awake as I am now, witness what I dreamt/AP come true.

Thanks.

[Szaxx]

Hi and welcome to the Pulse.
Your dreams are familiar and Im sure some on this site can also agree with your findings. Mine started around 14 years of age, a long time ago. You may find this 'knowing' carries itself into the physical too. It's not dejavue, you simply know and its never in error.
You may also have gone to new places physically to 'know" things that are present and a familiarity seems present itself to you. Occasionally the dream may be 30+ years prior.

[Grantinberg]

Thanks Szaxx,

I think what you said can explain a lot. The 'knowingness' was quite something. The mystery of consciousness- where it comes from and ultimately what can be achieved by the use of it- is remarkable. I was really starting to taking meditation seriously in '08. That prolly gave me a boost?

However- about the interaction? I can understand dreaming or APing to places and times, obtaining information, and gaining familiarity, while without even knowing it; but what about going even further than just that?

Can it be rationally explained, even by others' similar experiences, that one can find a locale in a future RTZ and create change through un/consciousness AP? I mean, how was it possible for me to do this, to jab my future supervisor in the back with my consciousness/light-body?

Thank you, Harji.

[Szaxx]

Hi,
Actually jabbing a person from any alternate reality is something I've not come across. The future issue is known. Moving things remotely is familiar after a few seconds of waking.
I've not even thought of doing that one. It would be amazing to tell someone at a specific time they would be poked and ask them to give feedback. Prior to this tell a third party where and when do a correlation can be independently made.
That is a verification to shout about.
Can you remember how it all came about? The frame of mind and the possibility of a replication would be very interesting indeed.