Hello :)
I have few questions regarding my last experience. I'm kinda confused and can't really understand it. Before I put my experience; I always wanted to meet my spirit guide in there and talk to him/them. But so far I was always unsuccessful. I also heard of Angels and stuff, but I do not believe in them as for me, they are part of religion and I'm not religious. I'm not ignorant enough to call something I do not believe in. Even if they were to be real, I can't ask for help as I rejected their existance - it doesn't seem fair. It would be all fine, if I didn't have experience where She, carried my astral body (or so it felt). I felt she wasn't my spirit guide but something else. Unfortunately, back then, I was also ignorant of Her existance, as I was only spirit guide this, spirit guide that. Didn't ask who she is, or her name. Nothing. That's when I promised to myself, that next experience will be about her. I will call for her, whatever She is and talk to her, ignoring the spirit guide. Now, what happened.
I entered SP and after that found myself in front of my house. Same old, I remembered spirit guides and all the ignoring I got so I called out to Her. At first She didn't come at all. Not until I dropped on my knees and places my hands ready to pray. I figured, if she truly was an Angel, that was the way to get her to come. Only then the sky opened up (the hole popped up in my sky) and I could see a lot of them, flying around with wings. She decended down ONLY after this voice allowed her to do so and I was so happy to see She actually came that I had thrown myself into her arms. I asked for her name, but I can only recall the letters, not the order of them. And on the question is She my Angel, I got reply, no, I'm not an Angel, I'm a Nightmare. I wasn't scared at all and I didn't find it weird at that time. It almost felt like my guardian or whatever, is nightmare type. It also made sense for me at that point, because my normal dreams are only horror ones and every single time, it's night in my dream. Even now, I was able to fly, to create everything etc. but was unable to switch moon with sun, to remove that dark cloth of night with blue one of day. Anyway. I have 2 question regarding this.
First one; How do I interpret that She is Nightmare. Like being. Like there are Spirit guides, there are Angels and She is Nightmare?
Second one; What is that voice that I keep hearing. I can always hear that damn voice, saying things, but I don't know where is it coming from. When I called my spirit guide, it was that 3rd perspective voice that said he is not allowed to come. It is that same voice that allowed Her to come and was the one that I felt wasn't pleased with my response. When She told me what she is (or supposed to be ) I was really happy, wasn't scared. I felt this uncomfortability, like that wasn't the response I was supposed to have. And soon enough, that 3rd perspective voice stopped my experience from continuing. It literally feels like it threw me out of my own dream. In every single experience that same voice was dominating. What do I make of that?
That's all :)
Quote from: IsayWhaat on December 14, 2015, 16:19:30
Hello :)
I have few questions regarding my last experience. I'm kinda confused and can't really understand it. Before I put my experience; I always wanted to meet my spirit guide in there and talk to him/them. But so far I was always unsuccessful. I also heard of Angels and stuff, but I do not believe in them as for me, they are part of religion and I'm not religious. I'm not ignorant enough to call something I do not believe in. Even if they were to be real, I can't ask for help as I rejected their existance - it doesn't seem fair. It would be all fine, if I didn't have experience where She, carried my astral body (or so it felt). I felt she wasn't my spirit guide but something else. Unfortunately, back then, I was also ignorant of Her existance, as I was only spirit guide this, spirit guide that. Didn't ask who she is, or her name. Nothing. That's when I promised to myself, that next experience will be about her. I will call for her, whatever She is and talk to her, ignoring the spirit guide. Now, what happened.
I entered SP and after that found myself in front of my house. Same old, I remembered spirit guides and all the ignoring I got so I called out to Her. At first She didn't come at all. Not until I dropped on my knees and places my hands ready to pray. I figured, if she truly was an Angel, that was the way to get her to come. Only then the sky opened up (the hole popped up in my sky) and I could see a lot of them, flying around with wings. She decended down ONLY after this voice allowed her to do so and I was so happy to see She actually came that I had thrown myself into her arms. I asked for her name, but I can only recall the letters, not the order of them. And on the question is She my Angel, I got reply, no, I'm not an Angel, I'm a Nightmare. I wasn't scared at all and I didn't find it weird at that time. It almost felt like my guardian or whatever, is nightmare type. It also made sense for me at that point, because my normal dreams are only horror ones and every single time, it's night in my dream. Even now, I was able to fly, to create everything etc. but was unable to switch moon with sun, to remove that dark cloth of night with blue one of day. Anyway. I have 2 question regarding this.
First one; How do I interpret that She is Nightmare. Like being. Like there are Spirit guides, there are Angels and She is Nightmare?
Second one; What is that voice that I keep hearing. I can always hear that damn voice, saying things, but I don't know where is it coming from. When I called my spirit guide, it was that 3rd perspective voice that said he is not allowed to come. It is that same voice that allowed Her to come and was the one that I felt wasn't pleased with my response. When She told me what she is (or supposed to be ) I was really happy, wasn't scared. I felt this uncomfortability, like that wasn't the response I was supposed to have. And soon enough, that 3rd perspective voice stopped my experience from continuing. It literally feels like it threw me out of my own dream. In every single experience that same voice was dominating. What do I make of that?
That's all :)
Can you please describe the voice to us?
In describing it, add how you were feeling or how it affected your emotions.
I don't really have any emotions with it, at least not some heavily noticeable onces. It just appeares out of nowhere. I can't pinpoint where is it coming from or who is it coming from. Feels almost like an echo, but I can understand it clearly and there are no repetitions. I guess the closest description would be like voice on the speakers. It's always above me and it always interferes.
I called it 3rd perspective voice because it feels like third person or mediator. Except there is only a voice, no person.
When I say interferes, it is as I already described it. And it is connect when I'm trying to call spirit guide. It never speaks to me directly. More as if it speaks to who I'm calling, but I can hear it. For example: When I was being pulled up from sleep paralysis state by whoever, in midst I asked about spirit guide. They waited for the voice to speak first. It said he is not available and that he cannot come. I heard the voice say those things to them and they repeated it's words to me anyway. The same thing happens over and over again when I try to reach out to spirit guide. I know I got mad at spirit guide first, because he didn't wanna come. I felt like I was doing him a favor (harshly said) coming to non-physical because thats where he is supposed to be. Feels like I come to his "world", all he has to do is show up and yet he manages to fail everytime. And there I was, really liking the idea of having someone who spirit guide represents. I also didn't understand why he doesn't just ignore the voice. Why it has so many influence on things that happen there. I still don't.
Anyway, I'm not really concerned with spirit guide anymore, I kinda stopped asking for it or wanting it. When I wanted it, I also wanted to have sleep paralysis and to extend it to an amazing experiences. I wanted to "practise" but all for nothing. When I wanted it, nothing happened. I barely even dreamed. The moment I truly stopped caring, bam, I end up having multiple experiences, all these different talks I can't put my finger on. What am I to make of "calling an angel that says she's a Nightmare" or 2 days ago split second before I woke up, I got whispered in my ear "You walk by Death everyday". Like please, I don't understand. Maybe I read too much dumb articles on internet, but I gave up reading about this months ago. I didn't read a single thing from February, when I joined the forum. Only here and only mine topics. Sometimes others, but very very rarely.
It's not even the same. Every sleep paralysis I feel different presence. Sometimes negative, mostly positive that later becomes recognizable. When I manage to free from the SP state and proceed to have an experience I can see them and talk to them. Even leaving when in SP isn't the same. I used to roll out of bed, just on the side and directly through my table onto the floor. Today I got out by kicking myself away from the wall, with my left leg. It felt like I had a string connected to the wall and I was in universe with no gravity. After a minute of back and forth I managed to push myself far enough to break away. Did I mention I had the presence stuck onto my back? It was piggyriding me while holding right arm around my neck. Very uncomfortable.
Either way, that's all I have about the voice. Maybe I get to call it next time and see what happens.
Hello there , interesting experience by the way i want to bring example of this "voice" from my past experience i have a post about it i will say shortly in moment i saw shadow person this "voice" told me not to have fear and they will dissapear i listened to it/him/her and they really dissapiared i think it's our inner voice , our higher self maybe let's say so because when u are dissconnected form physical and are in non-physical it's much more easier to have connection with these things inner voice/higher self/spirit guides and so on.. Also you must figure out is this voice helping you or what causes follow after you listen to this voice...
Please read : You said you read too much dumb articles on internet, let me tell you one thing that your mind is an open gateway what i mean is that for example i tell you now " Dogs like to eat ice-cream " non-sense for you yes? but your mind automatcily gets this information and done it's in your mind everything u see read hear is going in your mind deeply you may not listen to this or don't care about what i am speaking but that fact that you already read this done it's in your mind someone told you something 3 years ago but you don't remember that fact that you " don't remember " doesn't reject existence of that information in your brain..
All i want to say that be carefull what are you going to read,watch,hear but don't transfer it to paranoia people go sometimes crazy about this plus i beleive it's my beleif that when u project all these deeply set information are floating up you have more acces to them while in non-physical so a very little sentence can re-create your reality while projecting but don't goo over serious to this
You must rebuild your set of thoughts , control information which you receive and meditate ( just please don't overreact about this many people get paranoid)
Quote from: Positive3 on December 31, 2015, 09:25:12
Hello there , interesting experience by the way i want to bring example of this "voice" from my past experience i have a post about it i will say shortly in moment i saw shadow person this "voice" told me not to have fear and they will dissapear i listened to it/him/her and they really dissapiared i think it's our inner voice , our higher self maybe let's say so because when u are dissconnected form physical and are in non-physical it's much more easier to have connection with these things inner voice/higher self/spirit guides and so on.. Also you must figure out is this voice helping you or what causes follow after you listen to this voice...
Please read : You said you read too much dumb articles on internet, let me tell you one thing that your mind is an open gateway what i mean is that for example i tell you now " Dogs like to eat ice-cream " non-sense for you yes? but your mind automatcily gets this information and done it's in your mind everything u see read hear is going in your mind deeply you may not listen to this or don't care about what i am speaking but that fact that you already read this done it's in your mind someone told you something 3 years ago but you don't remember that fact that you " don't remember " doesn't reject existence of that information in your brain..
All i want to say that be carefull what are you going to read,watch,hear but don't transfer it to paranoia people go sometimes crazy about this plus i beleive it's my beleif that when u project all these deeply set information are floating up you have more acces to them while in non-physical so a very little sentence can re-create your reality while projecting but don't goo over serious to this
You must rebuild your set of thoughts , control information which you receive and meditate ( just please don't overreact about this many people get paranoid)
But, I stopped reading a long time ago. I didn't read anything for a year now except on this forum and specifically my posts. Sometimes I read few others, but very rarely.
I'm not worried, I'm just not quite sure what to make of it.