How it all works

[carrie.carnahan]

I'm not sure if I should post this here, or someplace else.

I had this thought that while people are communicating during astral projection they are doing it through quantum entanglement. also, could it be that before astral projection we create a copy of ourselves? We would not be creating an exact copy though. HHMMMM I don't understand that at all. So if we are not astral projecting we are one, but then right before astral projection we create a copy that makes quantum entanglement and quantum tunneling easier? I believe empathy is quantum entanglement. Not sure how it works though. If you have any ideas about this I would really appreciate hearing them.

Please keep in mind that I have about an 8th grade education lol... :/ That's not entirely true. I have one year of community college under my belt...BAH
Feel free to use big words lol... I will just look them up!

Thanks again,
Carrie Carnahan

[carrie.carnahan]

one more thought. Could it be that we make a copy because we go inside and look at ourselves??? Yep, I went there lol... These are just ideas of mine, that im sure have all been looked at before. I just don't really understand it.

Carrie

[SaneSir]

That's a pretty intelligent theory, about how before projection we create a separate version of ourselves, I never had that thought, so that's very interesting, and it makes sense. My theory is all planes coexist, the physical, astral, or whatever you prefer to call them, etc, because we seem to exist in all of them at the same time. When we are sleep, and physically in the physical reality, we are also in a very real non-physical dream realm, or astral if you prefer. Have you noticed throughout the day, if you have a vivid imagination, you can literally "see" or visualize things in your mind's eye? If you think about the way someone smiled at you.. You can see/visualize  it, right? That isn't physical, but very much as vivid and tangible. So I think we are existing in a non-physical and physical on all panes of existence all at the same time,  the body is physical, the conscious, soul, or as you prefer it to be called,  is not of the physical realm but existing with the physical body for this earthly experience. To tie it up, I agree when we astral projection we are in a sense, "separate" but also, existing at once elsewhere. What do you think?

[CFTraveler]

I had this thought that while people are communicating during astral projection they are doing it through quantum entanglement. also, could it be that before astral projection we create a copy of ourselves?

Yes, I know at least two people that have this exact idea regarding projection, one of them believes that the double is energetic (Robert Bruce) and the projection is kind of like a reflection of the person's physical mind/body, and the other is a physics (student or professor) who has come up with the idea that the body goes into superconductivity and produces a Meissner field, which gathers information through quantum entanglement and superposition, and then it transfer the information (i.e. perceptions) through q. entanglement or superposition, where the neuronal matrix of the body turns into electrical impulses->perceptions which we remember as out of body experiences.
So, yes.

[carrie.carnahan]

What i'm proposing is that the etheric body does not exist until we create it... That may explain why some people have a hard time with Astral projection from a meditative state. the observer effect is kinda what i'm getting at.

I'm probably way off... Just a thought

Carrie

[carrie.carnahan]

Sorry forgot to explain my reasoning. So I watched this youtube video that explained that a particle will make a copy to go through two slits simultaneously. could it be that we do the same thing. we copy in order to be in two realities at the same time...

Maybe someone can explain what I'm thinking in a more intelligent way lol...

Carrie

[CFTraveler]

According to some theorists (like chinese medicine doctors, and other theorists) the etheric body is what we know as the aura(or acupuncture meridians, energy pathways, etc.), and the real time projected body is an entangled copy of the etheric body.  I think this is why Robert differentiates the etheric body (which is part of the physical body) from the real time body, which is generated for the projection in the realtime zone.  He compares it to 'turning a flashlight on', the beam being the realitme body, the 'battery' being the etheric body, and the flashlight being the physical body.
So I think when it comes to terminology the idea is similar, the jargon different.
This is what makes all of this so interesting to me....

[CFTraveler]

Sorry forgot to explain my reasoning. So I watched this youtube video that explained that a particle will make a copy to go through two slits simultaneously. could it be that we do the same thing. we copy in order to be in two realities at the same time...

Maybe someone can explain what I'm thinking in a more intelligent way lol...

Carrie

I hadn't heard that explanation for the double slit experiment.  My understanding of it is that the particle turns into a wave when there are two holes, which is why interference patterns are seen with a double slit, but when there is a single hole too small for the waveform to go through it turns into a particle.
I do know Bohm had the 'pilot particle waveform' theory, which would be something similar to what you're describing, but it wasn't exactly a copy, more like its virtual existence until it was detected, which then (detection) would make it acquire enough energy to become actual from virtual.
Do you have a link to the video?  I'd like to take a look at it.

[carrie.carnahan]

Thanks CFTraveler. one sec I will try to find the video.

[carrie.carnahan]

I believe it is called quantum physics debunks materialism. I did watch 2 videos, so it could be the other one. oh and its on youtube. if its not that one, i will try to look in my history and find the name of the other.

[carrie.carnahan]

Taking a quick look over that video, I don't think that was it. its interesting though if you want to watch it anyway. I can't remember where I heard the idea. I will find it though. I know I didn't come up with it on my own lol...

[CFTraveler]

What i'm proposing is that the etheric body does not exist until we create it... That may explain why some people have a hard time with Astral projection from a meditative state. the observer effect is kinda what i'm getting at.

I'm probably way off... Just a thought

Carrie

I think we differ in terminology but not in concept-  But I still don't get why an observer effect would get in the way of creating the expanded body, unless the observer is affecting its generation by not believing in it, or somehow 'collapsing the waveform' by observing it.  Is this what you mean?

[carrie.carnahan]

Yes, thank you for explaining.... I'm throwing this out because I'm wrong. I was thinking about it backwards lol... Also, one particle doesn't make a copy, sorry for saying that lol... I was talking about a wave, but thought the wave was a copy... I drink to much coffee lol

Carrie Carnahan