Jaw shaking with Gateway Experience

[Paul-garr]

I'm experiencing strange sensations in my jaw when I try to astral project. I'm using the Gateway Experience audio tracks. My jaw was shaking like crazy earlier while listening to this - it stopped as soon as the session ended. It was quite a distraction. I've previously had experience with kriyas (involuntary movements) when meditating intensely, and I wonder if this is something similar? Am I just going crazy or has anyone else experienced the same thing?

[Pauli2]

I have something similar. I have some kind of head movements,
which come and go from time to time, most often _without_ Hemi-Sync.
I don't know what it is, but it seems to be more probable to start
if I intend to do a session, but it also can come when I try to go
asleep.

Some times I've actually wondered if it's some sort of illness, but
I really doesn't have a clue. Once I tried to ask out into the air
"what are these physical movements, why are they present". I
got the mental impression that the physical movements were merely
the result of sorting out "old crap", whatever that could be, astral
or otherwise.

My best guess, if it isn't a physical illness, is that these movements
are related to pre-kundalini effects.

What actually has bothered me more is that at times I've got pain,
mostly severe headache during a session, and I don't know what
that is either.

One recommendation I've read is that if it is pre-kundalini related,
one should not fight it, but instead one should let it happen and
perhaps pay attention to any impressions if anything at all can
be experienced.

Other recommendations are that if it gets too intense, stop doing
any astral related activity for a while.

Quite often I can also feel coldness in some part of my body, most
often somewhere in my head/neck or upper back. I also think
that is kundalini related. I actually don't know what kundalini is
either, so it may be just a metaphor to collect several physical
experiences into one word. It's quite common for me to also
feel "ticklings" in my head or neck, so I just think that is related
to non-physical energies. But what they do, I have no clue.

Also one channeled medium on youtube said that the first three
years or so, are the worst or are the ones with most effects. If
that's right, I have no clue either, as I haven't passed that three
year limit yet.

Further one may note that also Monroe got physical experiences,
for example a severe stomach ache (see Monroe's first book).
Sylvan Muldoon was ill most of his younger adult years, too.

If you have any belief in guides, you could try to ask them for
any explanations, and then pay attention to any emotions, images,
"knowings" or other things you may receive.

My impression is also that with Hemi-Sync, the biggest effect
seems to come for people the first times they listen to it, and
then the effects usually diminish.

[Lionheart]

 Hello Paul, it's just another "sign post" you will experience down the road to successful Astral Travel. Just ignore it and stay the course. You will see it will diminish after further practice! 

[Paul-garr]

I have something similar. I have some kind of head movements,
which come and go from time to time, most often _without_ Hemi-Sync.
I don't know what it is, but it seems to be more probable to start
if I intend to do a session, but it also can come when I try to go
asleep.

Some times I've actually wondered if it's some sort of illness, but
I really doesn't have a clue. Once I tried to ask out into the air
"what are these physical movements, why are they present". I
got the mental impression that the physical movements were merely
the result of sorting out "old crap", whatever that could be, astral
or otherwise.

My best guess, if it isn't a physical illness, is that these movements
are related to pre-kundalini effects.

What actually has bothered me more is that at times I've got pain,
mostly severe headache during a session, and I don't know what
that is either.

One recommendation I've read is that if it is pre-kundalini related,
one should not fight it, but instead one should let it happen and
perhaps pay attention to any impressions if anything at all can
be experienced.

Other recommendations are that if it gets too intense, stop doing
any astral related activity for a while.

Quite often I can also feel coldness in some part of my body, most
often somewhere in my head/neck or upper back. I also think
that is kundalini related. I actually don't know what kundalini is
either, so it may be just a metaphor to collect several physical
experiences into one word. It's quite common for me to also
feel "ticklings" in my head or neck, so I just think that is related
to non-physical energies. But what they do, I have no clue.

Also one channeled medium on youtube said that the first three
years or so, are the worst or are the ones with most effects. If
that's right, I have no clue either, as I haven't passed that three
year limit yet.

Further one may note that also Monroe got physical experiences,
for example a severe stomach ache (see Monroe's first book).
Sylvan Muldoon was ill most of his younger adult years, too.

If you have any belief in guides, you could try to ask them for
any explanations, and then pay attention to any emotions, images,
"knowings" or other things you may receive.

My impression is also that with Hemi-Sync, the biggest effect
seems to come for people the first times they listen to it, and
then the effects usually diminish.

Thanks Pauli2 - I feel slightly less worried about my sanity now.
I began experiencing these movements at an intense meditation retreat 9 years ago.
I was also given the explanation that they were related to kundalini rising.
I've never experienced it in the jaw before though, but this has probably to do with the fact that I'm lying down instead of sitting in the lotus position.
9 years just seems a  long time to be still having these effects - I must be carrying around an enormous amount of emotional baggage
Thanks
Paul

[Paul-garr]

Hello Paul, it's just another "sign post" you will experience down the road to successful Astral Travel. Just ignore it and stay the course. You will see it will diminish after further practice! 

Thanks Lionheart, that is great encouragement.

[Pauli2]

9 years just seems a  long time to be still having these effects - I must be carrying around an enormous amount of emotional baggage

It could be others, "past lives", too.

Moen had to go almost one whole lifetime with an increasing unusual liver illness
until he did a retrieval of one of his past lives who passed away more than 2000
years ago, about the time of the Roman Empire.

I too wonder if I've had these experiences in some sort or another for more than 20 years,
but not as actual physical head-movements. So things may last...

[8bit]

When I meditate my leg twitches a lot. I think its because your in deep meditate state. It also could be your body sending test signals to see if your awake or asleep.

[Paul-garr]

It could be others, "past lives", too.

Moen had to go almost one whole lifetime with an increasing unusual liver illness
until he did a retrieval of one of his past lives who passed away more than 2000
years ago, about the time of the Roman Empire.

I too wonder if I've had these experiences in some sort or another for more than 20 years,
but not as actual physical head-movements. So things may last...

That is interesting.
I've had a couple of vague visions that could be interpreted as past lives but nothing that compelling yet.
It would make sense though.

[Paul-garr]

When I meditate my leg twitches a lot. I think its because your in deep meditate state. It also could be your body sending test signals to see if your awake or asleep.

There is probably something to what you are saying here. It would explain twitches. My experience with kriyas is that they are like deliberate movements that I've no control over. The first time they happened it freighted the hell out of me, and I thought I'd gone mad. I kept moving into yoga positions, and I'd never even studied yoga. I told the Thai monk that was leading the retreat and he just smiled and said it was normal. I've learnt to just accept that kriyas as part of my practice – they usually last for a few days and then disappear for months.  These jaw movements feels like it is been driven by the same energy that creates the kriyas – if that makes sense.