My experiences: A Negative Entity?

[shaman]

Thanks for sharing your experience. First, nothing can happen to you or your body and none can hurt you. It is said that there are entities that can live on the fear of people, but that's all I heard of. Anyhow, you can light a candle and ask the 'spirit' or entity to leave immediately and leave you alone. You can make a prayer if you like to and ask God or whoever you believe in (if you believe). This should help to have any entitity go away. In the astral world nothing can harm you and the best way to react to a negative entity is with love, with positive feelings rather than fear and anger. Once you reach the vibrations and they engulf you completly, you just need to get off the bed and you will be in the astral world: when in the vibrational state you command your astral body, not your physical one, and you have detached from the physical. And again you might want to think, call out for God, Your guide, Jesus, an Angel, etc... whoever you believe in, with a positive approach. Keep us inform of your progress. Good luck.

[Willoc]

Good advice shaman.  Last night I'm 99% sure I had either an OOBE or an Astral Projection.  I started with my usualy routine and asked for angels to come and protect me.  I tried for about an hour doing different excercies (plus some new ones I made up) but disturbances from my house and around it made it very hard.  I gave up and tried again an hour later but to no avail.  After that I had a very hard time sleeping mainly due to having a downer for a day and seeing no progress with projection excercises.  I became very doubtful of my abilities and how slow progress was going in everything in my life.  After sorting this stuff out (You have to re-assure yourself every once in a while) I just tried to sleep.

When I was lying on my side (which now reminds me, I was lying on my side on my first projection attempt; see above post) and these very strong vibes starting going through me.  The loud pitch from chakra energy was ringing through my head and was about 10 times more intensified then it usually is.  Soon I could feel my conciousness becoming different.  Here comes the hard part; because it all happened so fast I can't remember exactly how the steps happened but soon I could feel myself floating backwards from my body.  As soon as this happened I flung myself (in direction unkown) out of my house.  Very great feeling, just floating around.  I hadn't gained any sight yet, probably because I had exited so fast, but when I did I was flying through the night.  I started leaping through the air and over water.  The notion of gravity was still strong so I had to make giant leaps through the air and soon I stopped at a small park.

At the park I started looking around and trying to intensify my enrgies so I could see everything clearly since my sight was very blurry and dark.  I could see a small monument in front of me and here's the part that kinda convinces me it was an astral projection rather than an OOBE.  I jumped straight in the air a couple of feet and landed, making myself cause a shockwave from under my feet to the monument in front of me.  I don't know exactly why I did it, but it seemed like a cool thing to do at the time since I was having so much fun.  I saw the shockwave go through to the base of the monument but nothing happened when it reached there, nor did it leave a trace on the path there.

The park started to look very lonely soon and I looked towards the city which is strange since I knew where the direction the city was but didn't know where I was.  I saw the downtown city lights and started jumping towards it.  I had a much harder time doing it this time and tried some "Superman" moves to see if I could just fly straight there.  I was at the edge of the park very close to the tree (whose leaves I can still remember distincly; very much the same as some trees around my city of Victoria, BC) when I started thinking of my other body asleep and how I wasn't really breathing and not burdened by weight but just by thought.  That's the last thing I saw, and I soon found myself on my bed.

I wasn't dazed or drained and I had none of the "dream feeling" you get when you just come out of a dream.  It was a great experience although a very short one.  I hadn't known what time I had gone into it but it seemed liek it all lasted about 30-45 seconds since the time I exited my body.  I'm going to check some maps around the area soon since I can't recall a park like that but it could be that I was in a different city altogether since I had been floating very fast in some direction before I gained my vision.

Thanks for all the people who've been givin me advice and thanks to Robert Bruce for writing the treatise on Astral projecting.

[Willoc]

I'm having a very hard time getting into a trance.  Could everybody whos experienced with projecting tell me their method of getting into a trance?  I've read the ones on the treatise on OBE but they'r not working for me very well.  I've got every other step except how to get into a trance down pretty well and it seems like I have to get into a trance by "accident" to get anywhere. Thanks.

[DOA]

Wilco

When I read your post I dont believe it is a neg your dealing with.  Hearing voices is a very common pre obe symptom.  It is said that all the things you hear feel see are just your minds interpratation of the energy sensation you feel with all the energy that is needed to project.  Now once you are out of body and away from your physcial and you then notice or see hear things then its time to rethink what it is.  With you learning obe astral entities are probably curious as they can tell your conscious.  

[Willoc]

I've been conciousley trying to project for 3 days now and have made 5 attempts.  First, I'll explain my methods:

1. I do the relaxtion excercises where I tense all my muscles.  Seems to work.  I've never really had problems with being relaxed and the first 2 times i tried to project I didn't even do the relaxation excercies and it made no difference.

2. I do the Chakra energy raising.  This is starting to work on myself better and better everytime I do it.  Very pleasing to do as well.  By the time I'm raising energy to my solar plexus chakra, the rining in my ears is immense.

3. I try out different things to get into a trance such as breathing excercises, clearing my mind and the rope method to get into trance but they never work.  What usually happens is my mind gets bored or I just try to wait it out and I start having half-dreams where my mind is amusing me.  The moment I get into trance tho, I become alert again.  I don't know how i programmed myself to do this, bu it happens automatically every time.

4.  Once in trance I try to project.  Here is what happened each time.

#1 - This was the deepest trance I had gotten into, I was fully paralysed.  Once I started getting vibrations through me and was about to try some excercises to get out.  I heard my name being said by one of my friends so I naturally thought they were in my room.  I stopped, and got out of paralysis in a second (I have much experience in getting out of paralysis) only to find that (obviously) no one was in my room.

#2 - I had a weak trance but still tried.  I felt a huge force pushing from where my brow chakra from inside my head out.  It felt as if a horn was starting to grow from the point and was just about to come out.  It was kind of uncomfortable and I dind't get anywhere for what seemed like a long time so I stopped.

#3 - A moderate trance this time.  I started doing the rope to get out and heard another voice, this time a different one of my friends, calling my name again.  By the time this voice sounded,  I had attained (or so I think) the starting of my astral vision.  I could see my ceiling up from my body (since I try to project back-down on my bed).  The voice was coming from my left side of my bed but I couldn't turn my vision to see it.  I had a bad feeling about it and this disturbing feeling that I used to get whenever strange forces would come into me earlier in the year (more about this later).  I smiled, and I don't know if I did this physically or with my etheric body because I always like to face things that scare/challenge me and see what they are.  After I did this, I lost my trance.

#4 - I tried to get into trance manually this time using the rope method.  Got into a low trance after a while but I'm not sure if I did it manually anymore.  Since it was a weak trance (I had may distractions during it as well),  I didn't project.

#5 - I just did this one an hour ago.  Was anohter weak trance.  Tried the rope method and then the Yo-Yo method (very briefly) and I can't remember much.

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All 5 of these times I've felt VERY drained physically and sometimes mentally.

A note on my past experiences I mentioned earlier:  About a year ago I started meditating. When I was just lying in bed or trying to go to sleep I would sometimes hear some normal sound or see something floating in the air and become very very distubred by it.  It wasn't that I was disturbed by the object/sound but it was just a feeling that I got right away.  Shortly after this, what I could only call a force or vibration would start pushing on me from the outside of my body to the inside, from all angles at once.  Every time I would hear voices accompanied by it.  The first time I started visualising a bubble of white light surroundding me and I heard a very load groan from a male and then the force/vibration stopped.  The second time I tried to feel what it was, my fear of it having passed.  Every time a wave of the force/vibration would occur, I woudl try to feel it and go at it full force mentally.  This caused it to stop and I heard a squeeky voice talking madly.  The third time A woman started screaching at me as it happened and I could feel myself slide off the bed and start running down the stairs that lead to my bedroom(It was very clear).  As soon as I realised I couldn't feel the ground beneath my feet, I snapped back into lying in my bed, everything had stopped.


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What I'm wondering now is this.  Is there a negative entity leaching energy off me?  Am I getting creeped out by a certain stage when I OBE?  I feel a very strong *presence* of something whenever I get this disturbed feeling.  I consider myself a very strong person mentally and willfully and while I might get scared for a bit, my curiosity and logic usually overcome the fear shortly after.  If anyone could give me some information or similair experiences; anything, it would help me out a lot.  Thanks.

(On another note:  I'm gonna try projecting again tonight.  This time I'm going to call on an angel to protect me while I'm doing it.)