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Made O pHI

Alright so I just did the first session in the Hemi Sync "The Gateway Experience" right before I try to go to sleep. (I start the session around 2AM and I'm done by 2:35AM trying to go to sleep. I must say I'm quite satisfied with it as I already had an obe and I wasn't even trying. Anyways, I begin to slowly gain awareness and I realize that I'm "flying around uncontrollably". I know I wasn't flying around uncontrollably but was being pulled around the room and dropped from the ceiling and right before I hit the ground the being would catch me (it feels as if I cant even fly or gain control so every time I was about to hit the ground a little burst of fear arises and all through out this I have an uncanny feeling of this being casting a spell or something of that sort, I've seen this done in the physical with this same being). the room is dim and I can barely see, and it feels as if my hands are still within my physical body or like tied together so I didn't have much control. I'm sure this being manipulated me to think that my hands were tied because when I dozed off my hands were in between my legs. On the 2nd to last time he drops me I gain control and the room fills with light and I can see (I already knew who this being was) clearly who this being was, it was one of my friends (it was this same friend and his older brother who actually 'awakened' me, i say that because I never knew about anything and didn't believe in a God really until one day this friend mentioned the Illuminati and I began searching for everything myself, he thought I was ignorant and would fall prey to fear easily.) I can see someone standing at the bottom of my bed watching once the room lights up (I believe it was his brother just observing seeing what I'd do as he was the one I could truly say cared for my growth and helped me, we've had a deep bond for only about a year and a half now) I fly up next to him (the one thats been pulling me) and tell him to stop (through the mind of course) and he just spreads his arms, one touching me and this is when I knew he was "casting a spell" by the look on his face, and he looks at me and shakes his head No, not to mention that he is sitting in the lotus position while floating. After that I lose control again and the room goes dim. He grabs me but this time as he's flying around dropping me he's actually pinching me or something and causing pain that I can feel, like it was physical (I even see my physical body leg twitch in bed because of the pinch). One of my eyes opens a little and I come back to the physical.

Now my question is...
What am I to do about this being, this being is a person I know and would hang out with in real life and ever since I met him I always had a weird feeling about him. Every time I'm learning more about the truth I know he knows cuz he'll text me or call me to distract me. I can feel that he has no love in him what so ever also.

I love him unconditionally still but it's that time, I need to move on and grow more. But I can tell he is trying to keep me down on his level, I remember once he told me he was just trying to find a real friend to kick it with all the time (but all in a sad voice, I can tell when he plays his sad act to the fullest) as I use to basically live with him on the weekends.

Any help/suggestions would be highly appreciated !
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Bordmb

Let me start off by saying, I am in no way throughout the duration of my reply doubting your feelings or calling you a liar as only you truly know how your situation feels.

I have recently been using the Gateway series as well. May I ask if you started with Discovery 1 or did you skip to where you felt was appropriate for your level? In Discovery 3- Advanced Focus 10, you learn to create an energy balloon around you. (REBAL) This acts too shield you from outside energies and keep your energies around you, unless you choose to open it and let other energies in or send yours out. I only mention this because if you had been using that technique, theoretically, nothing would be able to touch you or even will you to fly around erratically.

Next, I'm sure this being is a manifestation of your own fears. It sounds like you're paranoid about your friend. It very well could be that he is just in a bad place and I'm sure suspecting him of deliberately sabotaging  you isn't going to help matters and it definitely isn't showing unconditional love.

Just try to relax, put your fears in your energy conversion box, and use your energy balloon appropriately and you should be fine. Happy travels!  :wink:

Made O pHI

Thanks for the reply.
I started at Wave 1 - Orientation the very first one so I was just going by those instructions on the mp3 although I did read about the REBAL in the pdf.

Manifestation of my own fear, maybe, I do think that sometimes.
But at the same time I think he wants me to think that I'm creating this out of my own fear but really, I don't see what fear I could have that could be creating this.
I'm not so much paranoid about him because I know he can't harm me in anyway.
But at the same time it's just to many things happen out of pure "coincidence" for me to not think that this is him.

2 weeks ago when I was with him he walks to the bathroom and stays in there for a period of time, 5-10 minutes.
A minute or so before he walks out that thought comes to my head that he was "casting a spell" or w/e and all of a sudden I feel my facial expressions are moving in the exact same way he does his facial expressions when he looks in the mirror to admire himself, lol. The last facial expression was a big smile and as soon as that happened he walked out with that big smile so we're both lookin at eachother with a huge smile. Not to mention that it felt as if someones energy body was sitting directly over me for about half the night after that and I just didn't feel like myself completely.

If this is my own fear creating, maybe even just helping him to manipulate and conjure up some 'fear' in me, I still don't understand why he would be deliberately doing these things to make me think this. Something just isn't right about him and I don't think anyone will believe me until they've truly had the experiences I've had. Not just experiences with him and but also a few with his older brother.
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Bordmb

I'm actually quite intrigued by all of this and I'm curious to see how it plays out in the long run. My best recommendation would be to physically distance yourself from him as best you can. If he notices, that's fine because that would cause him to act up more in the wider reality, thus confirming your suspicions. Try very hard to put that fear into the energy conversion box though.

This may be a silly comparison, but I caught a rather large spider just before listening to the second disc in wave I- discovery last night. I didn't think much of it, but I kept getting itches and even pains and suddenly I realized it was a manifestation of my fear of another spider being in my bed, so I imagined putting it into that box and closing the lid and the fear subsided almost instantly, along with the itches and pain. Best wishes; I hope I've helped.

Made O pHI

Thanks for the advice, I'll be sure to keep you updated in the future.
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Contenteo

Did the pulling feel like a magnetic pull? Like something you had to restrain against to resist?
Was the speed of the pull fast or slow?

Cheers,
Contenteo

Made O pHI

#6
It wasn't a magnetic pull feeling. The only restraining I had was my hands as I was trying to pull them free because they felt attached to my physical body in the beginning of the OBE. It was just as if I was there and was helpless while the being had me in his grasp whirling me around at a decent speed, not to fast not to slow.
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Contenteo

OOOOooo. :-o

QuoteThe only restraining I had was my hands as I was trying to pull them free because they felt attached to my physical body in the beginning of the OBE.
Theres the problem.

It wasn't a clean projection, it was muddy, of sorts.

These projections usually have a slight scary demenor to them and unexpected grim things, not scary, grim, tend to occur. I could only speculate at the many explanations, I have some hypothesizes, but the bottom line is that hazy projections tend to be scary. I have taken it as a rule of thumb at this point. Kinda like if you wake up drowsy. It just isn't goin' be right for the first part of your day. Same logic.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Made O pHI

But that wouldn't explain how the room fills with light all of a sudden when this being drops me and for a brief moment I see everything and then it grabs me once more and my vision turns dim again ?   :?
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Contenteo

meh, vision can commonly turn dim during a projection. Usually this is a sign that you are about to get booted. There is a technique for this called 'deepening'.

Deepening

Image you rubbing your hands together and you feel the warmth being created.

This metaphysical imagery usually grounds you back into the experience and you can continue.

But again. This was a half/half projection. I have had many of these. There really is no salvaging them. The best thing to do is remember the feeling of the astral. Come out of it. (because usually they get scarier and scarier) stand up. Dust yourself off. Write a journal entry and then attempt again while the feeling is still fresh.

Projections usually come in clusters when you have them.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Made O pHI

Thanks for your help ! I'm gonna try the Deepening technique tonight if I need to, the "Clarity Now" command never works for me.
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa

Szaxx

Hi,
You can shout anything, without intent its worthless. When you shout 'clarity now' with conviction it becomes a strong thought and the astral will respond.
If you saw a drunk friend pick up a bottle of bleach intending to drink it. Your shout would be with conviction. Lots of it and in your mind stopping it at all costs would be the prime intent. Doing things like your life depended on it has a very powerful effect in the astral. Know this and your troubles are no more.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Made O pHI

I'll remember your advice next time I AP. Thanks
"Do not allow yourselves to be disheartened by any failure
as long as you have done your best."
~Mother Teresa