meeting higher self

stubborn-envelope · February 09, 2007, 12:48:30

has anyone ever been able to meet their higher self while out of body? what form did the higher self take? an angel? male or female? god or goddess? what kind of feelings did you have? (motherly or fatherly love, etc.)

James

bounda · February 09, 2007, 16:51:24

Last night when i was trying to fall asleep, i requsted to talk to my higher self. Nothing happened but i kept trying to talk to it, as i was finally beginning to fall asleep, my mind was empty and all of a sudden i heard somebodies voice yell my name! It happened one more time when i was trying to fall asleep, and the third time nothing happened and i began to dream.

kiwibonga · February 09, 2007, 18:30:58

You are your higher self. Your higher self is you.

"But I'm just a human and there's only one of me in there!"

One day, you will understand.

Hagethuriel · February 13, 2007, 01:26:45

Quote from: stubborn-envelope on February 09, 2007, 12:48:30
has anyone ever been able to meet their higher self while out of body? what form did the higher self take? an angel? male or female? god or goddess? what kind of feelings did you have? (motherly or fatherly love, etc.)James

I have in Alchemy Circle , I have seen the HS , GA and Watcher selves appear of my own and my peers . When I read a sitter if they are united to their guardian angel , their face appears on it , if not it will appear with a past life face or a cloud of colour . Similarly the face of the watcher is obscured by the aura and appears headless . The Higher Self appears in prime health without physical ailments or augmentations with natural hair colour etc . The Guardian angel appears winged and in a "gown " of auric colours . The watchers for my group have curiously appeared wearing purple cloaks and eventually they sported our visage .

Imho the cosmology of the human spirit is sophisticated and complex . Each of the many parts realised represents a breakthrough in the expansion of consciousness . Joining with them or communicating with them is a goal rarely realised but available to all humans . Crowley called it K&C/HS knowledge & communication with the higher self .

etc
dragon angel
watcher
united higher self /guardian angel
guardian angel
higher self

/\path of light magician
human
\/dark path

lower self
guardian demon
united lower self /guardian demon
dark watcher
etc

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Last night when i was trying to fall asleep, i requsted to talk to my higher self. Nothing happened but i kept trying to talk to it, as i was finally beginning to fall asleep, my mind was empty and all of a sudden i heard somebodies voice yell my name! It happened one more time when i was trying to fall asleep, and the third time nothing happened and i began to dream.

Congrats it sounds like you are getting in touch with your inner self and you are developing clairaudience too .

Nay · February 13, 2007, 06:48:27

dragon angel, guardian demon, dark watcher??

Perhaps this only applies to the person who decided to call it these things, because honestly and with no disrespect it sounds like someone trying to tag and title his disfunctional emotional state.

Mendel · February 14, 2007, 21:35:01

James,

When I used to go looking for my HS, what I would get were visuals of colors and simple melody music where the lyrics would contain many instances of the word "Love." And, some feelings of euphoria. No human forms. I've since learned there are many layers of consciousness between my HS and physical me. Enough to keep me busy exploring for years to come.

-mike

Hagethuriel · February 17, 2007, 03:48:54

Quote from: TalaNay on February 13, 2007, 06:48:27
dragon angel, guardian demon, dark watcher??Perhaps this only applies to the person who decided to call it these things, because honestly and with no disrespect it sounds like someone trying to tag and title his disfunctional emotional state.

Perhaps a little reading would help you understand these metaphysical concepts in the cosmology of the human spirit which have nothing to do with a male invention or dysfunctional emotional state but are truths historically held by occultists ;

googling ;

On the Guardian Demon
Guardian Demon~Someone once sent me a guardian demon, and as I am not a christian I thought that I wouls slightly modify it and send it back the them. ...
www.jasnetworks.net/zotiel/ascii/demon.html

A Guardian demon? From: Rhiannon (princess_rhiannon2001@yahoo.com) Story type: Ghost Location: My room ... I believe it is a demon...just a guardian one. ...
www.wirenot.net/X/Articles/2005/G/guardiandemon.shtml

The case of the devil~Let us return to the name of our guardian demon inside the church. At no point did Saunière indicate that he had given his demon a name. ...www.perillos.com/asmodeus_3.html

Is the Guardian Angel Less Intelligent than the Demon? by Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira. The Church teaches that God created angels vastly superior to man. ...
www.tfp.org/TFPForum/Tendential_Revolution/guardian_angel.htm

The Guardian Demons~ Unlike guardian demons at other temples which always face outward to keep evil away from the sanctified area, these stand facing inward towards the Assembly ...
www.geocities.com/RainForest/7153/pakao27.htm

Instytut Książki: ... my guardian demon".
www.instytutksiazki.pl/en/polish_literature/excerpts/fragment/my_guardian_demon.html?cHash=807546f4eb

Learn about Satanism--Beliefnet.com Second, a lot of inexperienced folks treat their guardian demon like some invisble friend whom talks to them all the time. Be skeptical when it comes to ...
www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=533051

Regarding the dark watcher ;

Banishing the Watcher: According to The Conjuration of the Watcher you should give him his license to depart by striking your left hand upon the hilt of the ...
www.jasnetworks.net/zotiel/OF/necro/watcher.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Lonelygirl15 ~ View topic - Enochian, Bree, Enochian Ceremonies ...Trace a banishing Fire Hexagram (red), and repeat intonation, vibrating one syllable ... i like the whole watcher angels and gabriel thing, its really cool! ...www.lonelygirl15.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=200007&sid=59849851426bfa6c9c5bae03e8ad169a

Goetia Questions~Banish. Failure to Banish may not just affect you, it can also affect others around you. A Watcher? I assume you are talking about the Watcher from the ...
www.sacred-magick.com/Evocations/of/Goetia%20Questions.html - 23k - Cached - Similar pages

The simonicon fully explained by Ashnook Before you go off and decide not to banish your Watcher, be prepared to kick your aga mass sarratu in over drive. If you are not banishing him, ...
necronomicon.sacred-magick.com/TheWatcher.html

This became a problem for the McMurtrys, though the watcher seems to have ... to investigate the matter and hopefully to banish the said astral watcher. ...
www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/7069/mcmurtry.html - 49k

Corpus Index~Ouranian LBRP A Variation on the traditional Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram ... of an imaginary friend; The Dragon Watcher There be dragons 'ere. ...
autonomatrix.org/guild/corpus/index.html

Grey Gardens of Shadowed Rapture~The Watcher sighed. "The difference in banishing a god and doing the sort of magic that she is accustomed to is akin to wading in a swimming pool and ...
www.vampires-kiss.net/order/Holly/ggsr/C36.htm

Satya Center – Back to the Garden: self-love ~We can call this aspect the "watcher" and it is the source of mindful awareness. ... focus on simply observing the breath and banishing other thoughts. ...
www.satyacenter.com/relationships-self_love-backtogarden3?page=4

dragon angels are one name for the sumerian godhead/annunaki

Awakened_Mind · February 17, 2007, 04:16:04

The higher self isn't met. It's not a separate entity to you. Your higher self is your medium with God.

It is important to understand this; a mind cannot begin to comprehend some concepts before a foundation is layed of other concepts. For example, you cannot learn algebra without first learning addition.

You cannot just will to meet you higher self, it is a process of becoming. You need to lay a strong spiritual foundation until one day your being coincides with your higher self.

Somtimes we like to think that we are sophisticated enough to encounter supreme beings. I'm not sure whether to attribute this misconception to impatience or ignorance.

IMO.

-AM

Hagethuriel · February 19, 2007, 04:50:11

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on February 17, 2007, 04:16:04
The higher self isn't met. It's not a separate entity to you. Your higher self is your medium with God.

It is important to understand this; a mind cannot begin to comprehend some concepts before a foundation is layed of other concepts. For example, you cannot learn algebra without first learning addition.

You cannot just will to meet you higher self, it is a process of becoming. You need to lay a strong spiritual foundation until one day your being coincides with your higher self.

Somtimes we like to think that we are sophisticated enough to encounter supreme beings. I'm not sure whether to attribute this misconception to impatience or ignorance.
IMO.-AM

Imho ,the higher self is part of the cosmology of every human and can be projected from the energy body and seen and communicated with .It is clairvoyantly viewed in readings as it comes behind a sitter also . Knowledge & Communication with the Higher Self has and will continue to be an important occult goal .
The HS is not a supreme being . However , any human who will sit in dedictation to development of their energy body and the expansion of their consciousness will be able to attain the higher planes in projection and meet the mahatma . Mystics have been known to do this for over 5000 years .

"Those who cannot perceive it are not ready to receive it" .

Nay · February 23, 2007, 15:25:23

Hagetheriel,

I'm sorry but I don't get impress with too many websites these days. Just because someone has a site or book based on something, does not make it so. I've seen too many Tom, willy and Mary sites with people who claim to know the universal, absolute truth, when mostly they are just dillusional people in search of attention, fame and money.

For my reality, right now, this is hogwash, no offense.

Astir · February 23, 2007, 21:18:42

I don't think you meet it, or can speak with it. I think you become it, inside a few moments if you are able.

sylversun · February 24, 2007, 00:52:21

Quote from: Awakened_Mind on February 17, 2007, 04:16:04
The higher self isn't met. It's not a separate entity to you. Your higher self is your medium with God.

It is important to understand this; a mind cannot begin to comprehend some concepts before a foundation is layed of other concepts. For example, you cannot learn algebra without first learning addition.

You cannot just will to meet you higher self, it is a process of becoming. You need to lay a strong spiritual foundation until one day your being coincides with your higher self.

I found this very informative...So thank you.

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