Michael's OOBE: 2/23/2004 - WILD Gravity Instinct

[shaman]

Hello Michael,

Thanks for sharing your trials and experience with us.

I have noticed that voluntary OBE are much different than spontaneous OBE. In one spontaneous OBE, as I went to sleep, I kind of woke-up like in a dream and started floating up above myself. Then started drifting in the house. The vision was very clear and precise. In two voluntary OBEs (the only 2 succesfull ones) I could barely see a thing and everything was fuzzy and turned into a dream. It seems that deep inside us we know exactly how to OBE everynight, but  if we try to do it consciously, then it is more like a mess, at least at the beginning. In spontaneous OBE and in (lucid and non lucid) dreams it is "normal", "natural" to fly and float, it goes all by itself. But in induced (voluntary) OBEs, it is much more difficult, it is like gravity is a part of our reality.

Your post will certainly help other people to "learn how to fly", including me I hope... thanks!

Shaman, the dreamer [|)]

[Nay]

Once again, thank you Michael for sharing your experiences!

quote:I remember seeing the museam and saying "i would like to take a visit in there" but first i would have to cross the river filled canyon. The only way i wanted to get there was by flying and i took its presance as an exersize in helping me to learn to fly a little better

.I found this interesting because I found myself standing on a canyon, with a dry river bed.  It had a rope angled down and stretched across, with a handle on it.(can't remember what you call it, but you grab it and zoom down)  I had the feeling that it was a training for me to get over my fear of going fast..[] I did it with no problems! []

I have had several experiences that seem like some kind of training..or conditioning is more like it.  Thanks to those conditionings, I now have noooo problem going fast.

Take Care~  Nay

[Michael_E]

HI Shaman and Nay,

Thanks for your kind words, its always encouraging to know that something i worte here could help others in their trials and tribulations[]!

Shaman,

I agree with you completely, it seems to be a lot more difficult to manuever during a conscious split as opposed to a spontaneous one. Im starting to think the spontaneous ones are there for inspirational purposes maybe with the help of guides working behind the scenes or our higher selves. The spontaneous ones are much more controled but not a reliable way of getting what you want out of the oobe because its sort of hit or miss randomness. but they still serve a purpose to inspire to have more controled conscious ones because we have a taste of what it is like through the spontaneous ones. I almost always say "man, i wish i could do that when i want to" after having a spontaneous oobe. they really do help me to stay focused and disciplined in trying to obtain this whole conscious willed oobe goal.

Hey Nay,

I think its called something like a zip line or zip wire i cant quite remember its exact name either, but that sounded like loads of fun and is a good idea for some more training for me. Im guessing ill keep getting training scenarios untill i completely shed the more instinctual conditionings carried over from the physical. Some of them are really great scenarios though. I had another one where i had a conscious split and was standing beside my bed when a soft sweet womans voice took me inside this huge pink and blue cylinder type arena with pods or platforms protruding from the interior. There were little kids bouncing around and flying up this huge cylinder all having lots of fun laughing and smiling. I was put around the middle of the cylinder on a  pod and was so frightened at the hieght i was at i didnt want to move at all. I felt a presance from behind me and a little boy telepathically or empathically(im not too sure because i dont remember words but i remember him saying something that was reasuring) spoke to me and comforted me and took my hand as we leaped up to the next highest pod within the cylinder. From then on i was a little more comfortable with leaping and flying.

[Michael_E]

Throughout this whole month i had had some major manuevering problems during Lucid and rtz projections. Before going to bed i brushed up on some of what robert bruce mentioned in Astral Dynamics to help with manuvering and the gravity instinct. I made it a priority to try out what was mentioned in the book next time i got out; ie, feeling as if your environment is being pulled toward you and feeling the rush or pressure of air against you as you speed up with major emphasis on the feeling part.I also read up a little on WILDs while i was looking through the book but didnt make it a priority to have one.

Upon going to bed i relaxed completely feeling nice and warm and cozy, did some mind taming exerizes from RB's book and fell into a half-awake half-asleep day dream in which i had a bids eye view of myself hopping and playing in a playground. At this point i was awake enough to create what was in my environment in such a way that i could say " i like swings let me put them over there, and here will go the mokey-bars, etc" and what ever i wanted to be in the area would pop up there, but it wasnt a oobe because i was still aware of my physical and kind of imagining all of this. all the while i still have my mind on the taming exersizes keeping any clutter from interferring with making my playground.

The more i kept my mind clear the more vivid and real the imagination became until the point where i found i was in first person perspective completely surrounded by the environment i had just imagined as if i were really there. The amazing part was that there was no exit sensations or vibrations or even the slightest feeling of falling or entering a trance it seemed like a seemless conscious entry into my imagination world.


For alittle while i swung on the monkey-bars, which were bright blues and reds and yellows. at the end of the monkey-bars was something i didnt create consciously but upon seeing it remembered its purpose. It was a huge canyon with a deep wide river and at the other end was a museam. I remember seeing the museam and saying "i would like to take a visit in there" but first i would have to cross the river filled canyon. The only way i wanted to get there was by flying and i took its presance as an exersize in helping me to learn to fly a little better. I took a running head start and leaped off the edge of the canyon high into the air and flew over to the other side using and practicing what RB mention which worked like a charm. It was nice to see that his methods worked. Definitely the main part of getting better at flying is using your feeling imagination, feeling as if you are manuvering instead of trying to use the body to move.