vacuum projection quasi-cures astral anomalies?

[Selski]

Wow - a thread with my name in it!  I feel honoured.

Thanks for your response.  I've had a glance and it looks very interesting.  I'm going to have a "good read" later on.

Sarah

[Selski]

Aphelion

I think you are right about me being naive!  I'm not sure about the theoretically minded.  I'm quite a "simple" lass really, not in the sense of unintelligent, but more in the sense of child-like.

You've made some very interesting comments and I hope more people read what you have to say, because seeing things that aren't there and not seeing things that are there is a very common occurence in OBEs.

You have given me food for thought and I hope to remember your comments next time I am "out".  It might make the experience a very different ball-game.

Perhaps you should change the name of the thread to Anomalies in the Astral?  More people may read it that way.  Just a thought.

Anyway, thanks once again.  I'll let you know of developments.

Sarah

[Mike17]

Ugh i can b bothered, plz summarize ur book

[DaDestroya]

Haha yes mike17 it is long indeed but aphelion, that's pure knowledge you've written right there.

I have actually been putting too many assumptions to mind while attempting to project..I feel like i've learnt a bit on the subject, thanks.

-DaDestroya

[Nay]

To me it sounds like common fluctuations in a RTZ projection.  Perhaps that is what you are explaining but just in really long details?..[]

Nay

[Aphelion Yearspew]

quote: from Nay
To me it sounds like common fluctuations in a RTZ projection. Perhaps that is what you are explaining but just in really long details?..

hmmm...I could've sworn I mentioned they were commonly reported... []

quote: from Aphelion Yearspew
A lot of people have been known to experience objects that may resemble or morph into other objects(like beds resembling chairs), or objects that are on the wrong side of the room etc.

[:X]...

I just used this one situation as an example. Infact one of the reasons I wrote this was to try to make these kind of fluctuations less common, since they seem the ruin the legitimacy, and often lower the level of many projections. And so in getting a better grasp at why they might occur, you could try to change or erase the elements that could be seducing them, and thereby reducing the chances of having to suffer through them. And in case you haven't figured it out yet, overlooking details and paying attiontion to them, can make all the difference in the astral, if only because the subconscious breaths on them. []

[Aphelion Yearspew]

I hope you don't mind that I'm starting a new thread, but I feel this one covers some topics that would be irrelevant to the thread I'm using this example quote from

quote:   from Selski
I got out of my body and decided this time to look round at my physical body. I stood at the side of the bed and turned round, making my vision come on. It's really strange what I actually saw because I saw my blue chair (the chair that I was really sleeping in) - although it looked more bed-like than a chair; and I also saw my blanket all rumpled up (the blanket that I was actually covered in).

I think you could be either too little or too much attached to your ethereal "body". Probably closer to the latter in your case. This is a problem that seems to manifest itself with a lot of theoretically minded, maybe slightly naive people, who a lot of the time have the need to marry conscious awareness with a sense of existing at an absolute place in space/time. This seduces the "astral-mind" to shape itself into more of a rotating but relative
velocity-less, quantum black hole-like behaving object. That has its event horizon fanged to your physical brain. So it receives a lot more of information from the physical brain and much less from the already  manipulative astral evironment. You may think, "If my conscious brain catches most of the energy, then I don't have to worry about getting any false, or misguided information". Well that's where I believe the problem lies.Your astral "mind" gets its main energy from an organ that knows merely how to deal with a 4 dimensional reality, 3 spatial, and 1 time. And even that it has trouble
with sometimes (if you can remember the last you were high on something, be it drugs, passion, hate or compulsive obsession, you'll know what I mean [] ) Imagine how it will react to translating an awareness that is many times more awake, dimensionally higher etc.While being limited by its loyal, allmighty 3 dimensional thought mechanics, or being exposed to all mass moving at C (speed of light). Its parallel-less timeframe simply can not grasp the concept of an infinite time reality, that doesn't know how to play the Energy-Domino game.(I guess you can't really blame the astral for not wanting look like the geek, who plays domino instead of God-Possesion [}:)]) Especially not a much more immediately chaos theory influenced, and holographic one.You might argue that since the brain experiences the astral from such a close distance, it should be able to learn, as you project,  how to translate the information into understandable human concepts. Atleast this is what a lot of people I've spoken to assume. But they're forgetting or are unaware of one little detail. The brain itself is not along on the trip when you project out of your body. Most of what you remember didn't even enter your brain (nor did it share its dimensional properties) untill you were well back in your body. Therefore, what you remember doing is not necessarily exactly what you've actually done. In the same token, what you remember seeing is not necessarily what you might have seen etc. I know it might sound a little nihilistic but that's because it IS [:O].When dealing with translating back higher-dimensional energy, the physical brain has to make compromises, to swallow it down its relatively underdeveleped evolutionary throat. This means your physical brain is forced to change or replace some of your first-hand astral reality-experience, to make you atleast be able to conceptualize(which is something the human mind loves to do) it, and get in sync with the knowledge you and your brain already have/ know of. It just works with the tools it has got in its possesion and makes the best out of it. So it can combine truth and what I sometimes like to call pseudo-fiction, if you will. Pseudo-fiction refers to basicly two different sides of the same coin.
It's reality when we experience it first-hand in higher dimensional realms, although you may not have it placed in your conscious memory.
But it appears to be fiction, (for example non corresponding objects or events on the etheric plane with the physical plane) when the memory of the event flows through the realm that is dimensionally more limited then where the memory originated from.(when you take something away from its original habitat, it will try to adapt in order to survive) One of the area's where I think a lot of physical beings, seem to be holding themselves back is when they assume they have a fixed or absolute astral/ethereal body. And they keep focusing on it like they're participating at an ancient Chinese Water Torture benefit [xx(].And leaving without it would be a disgrace, impossible even.
This same school of thought often say nifty things like: "im Afr8 I Khent g4t b@k in2 teh
B0dy!, hehe L0L LMA0 ROFFFL!!!!!!11111oneoneonefuninthesunoneoneone" []
To people who fear not being able to find their body an don't realise it's everywhere and nowhere simultaneously
You might as well be saying "I  sure hope I can find my astral body when I wake up tomorrow!" []

I believe that once you enter your physical body,  the original "real" memory, if you will, stays "floating" in the astral, where of course space-time ends, so your astral-consciousness can always reach for it, if you try. That might also explain why I sometimes during a projection either hear a sight ,see a sound, feel a smell etc. that will trigger a chain-reaction of thought-waves which unlock an old memory-mine of parallel-realities out of nowhere. Anyway, I believe there's also a replica being made in the physical brain, which usually slips right in to the
subconscious. This I think is because your conscious mind has (atleast not yet) evolved enough to even spot  the memory. It simply does not have the capability needed.
That is kind of like describing a certain light frequency, to a blind person, that the human brain hasn't yet evolved in its spectrum of visible light. Like certain snakes have evolved to be able to see infra-red frequencies, that are too low on the frequency scale of the human brain ( So in a way snakes are closer to enlightenment the we are [:O])
But since we atleast are familiar with the concept of light, the memory (let's say there is one) will feel somewhat at home in the conscious mind, and your brain wouldn't need to lie to you to get the information across.
I think an astral/etheral body is what your mind (the painter) is wasting a lot of its creative indispenseble energy (water-colours) on. For example to shamanize (or shapeshift) yourself in what you'd like other entities, and/or projectors to see of yourself. If you think you're not very vain anyway, don't worry. Unless you're not a human being this process is most likely already subconsciously doing its job. I personally don't really mind Ego-feeders, and some can kind of get away with it on the physical plane. But I believe that in the astral, where cause and thought can meet effect instantly, everytime you lay an eye on your astral/ethereal body, whether you want it or not, you are subconsciously (or in some cases even consciously) focusing on what kind of image of yourself you want to present.(like a digitally manipulated smiling talk-show host). In the long run I think this leads to "mirror masking" yourself with something, everyone without a brain (literally) can tell that you tried to "help" your emotions a little bit. If you were supposed to dictate your emotions, they wouldn't be there in the first place. And since all energy that's coming your way is reflected back from your pretty mask it could possibly let you slowly devolve inside a vicious circle on the physical plane, since that is what the masses of physical humanity seems to the most ambitious about. I'm not necessarily saying that being aware of an astral/ethereal body while projecting is bad, but I do think "vacuum projection" has major adventages, even for novices in this area. If you can manage to simply be aware, and bring along as little physical replica-matter as you can, from a realm that has not evolved in this chaos-driven environment.You'll not only be able to experience a realm in every way for what it really is, but you would actually become some of it, rather than just existing inside of it. Without the physical pretenses that can chain you to the surface, that's not even really there.When you choose to (or can't help) to project with a human body replica as your frame of reference, than that's how your subconscious will treat your awareness. It simply doesn't know better. Say you're in your room where you just projected, and you're wearing your favorite cosy dogmatic-jumpdress (aka astral/etheric body). A lot of people have been known to experience objects that may resemble or morph into other objects(like beds resembling chairs), or objects that are on the wrong side of the room etc. This appears to be the result  when for example the "eyes" on your ethereal body stare at an object that's standing in front of them. Your subconscious mind knows and is very well "aware" of the information it receives from for example right behind your ethereal body. As it may have been, you could've spotted both of the objects at the same time, perhaps your subconscious mind took over for a moment (that sneaky little schmengy [:X]),and became aware of what was going on all around you. Your subconscious doesn't have a problem accepting this, since it's not worried about bodies, nobodies, single points of awareness etc. It treats them all the same, they're all equally worthless to it (it's a very democratic level of consciousness []) All it cares about is sucking in and transcending as much information as it can, and portay it as vivid but abstract as possible. Without debating where it belongs, or why it's even there.This is why, while you were actually in the room you could have been seeing both of the objects simultaneously. But by the time the ethereal replica of your consciousness, collides with, gets absorbed, and translated by your physical and logical 3 dimensional, mechanical brain, (which was of course abscent from the actual event) it would simply not accept that you could be seeing two objects simultaneously. Like you would have eyes in the back of your head. It doesn't know better than that it's "physically" impossible,
Which isn't that strange considering the years of existing, studying, and verifying the laws of physics, it has been through.
So what does it make of the to itself hallucinative information it received from its replica memory, in which it knew for sure that it received the face-to-face perspective from both objects simultaneously?
It overwrites what it feels is necessary, so that it can present it to you (a 3 dimensional human being) in a manner that won't make you think you're about to get diagnosed with schizophrenia.[B)]
Which means you could have the memory of seeing different objects at the physically wrong places in your room, even if that's not what your subconscious saw the first time around. Or they could be overlapping each other, eventhough it's again not what you saw. You could push this even further by saying the code-translation of the conscious mind, is responsible for most reality-fluctuations But I don't necessarily agree with that though.  
You could imagine  that during a projection your subconscious may have taken a glance outside, through the walls (but your conscious mind couldn't handle that part) which could
explain for instance a strange dog next to your bed. But then again you could ask "why was it purple?"
It could've been an overlapping from a purple shirt that was in your closset.It's somewhat out there, but I've had verifications of this "theory"
Most of the time you can't tell the difference since your conscious mind mostly stores only one reality at the time.
But if you can manage to split your consciousness at the moment of exit very quickly and spread  them from each other before they'll be able to mingle their energies. And then let each split have a slightly different emotion,(but try to have an overal theme of sorts to them, so it won't collapse in on itself) as its engine to expand it into an astral-network. Which allows you to recapture and remember every quantum detail, despite of the multiple events occurring simultaneously in space-time as well as outside of it.

Awareness is infinite, it's the
absorption, readaption and reinterpretation of it, that is causing you to think otherwise.