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Timandra

One time I woke up and kept my eyes closed and tried to stay relaxed so I could fall alsleep again. Then suddenly I was between the stars and planets with an awsome 3D sight. It was so clear and sharp and I felt a certain atmosphere. It really felt like I was there. Alas it only lasted about 2 seconds. Was this some sort of obe? I would like to hear your opinions.
Thank you.
Timandra
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

astralmugee

I know im a vary vivid person wether it be lying in bed or awake. sometimes I can see life times pass through my head in a matter of seconds. the only time I ever had a vivid experience as yours awake, is when I was sick and on medicine. I beleive it was a Dxm trip I was having. I traveled through the stars and to other planets. saving life and seeing it destroyed, all in a matter of a half hour. it was extremly epic....im not sure what you saw, maybe it was a vivid visualization of some sort?

Timandra

Thank you astralmugee for answering. Your experience sounds very extraordinary, especially because it lasted at least 30 minutes. Mine only last 3 seconds at the most. I don't think it is a visualisation, because they are started with the intention of seeing something in particular. My images just happen out of the blue, while I am trying to fall asleep. They are in the hypnagogic state, but then with the full 3 dimensional feel and sight and the sensing of the atmosphere that goes with the image. I also get the normal hypnagogic images, they are more like watching a film, not at all the feeling that you are right there. I have had 3 of these 3-D experiences now since December 2008, that is when I started to get more interested in obe's and lucid dreaming.  :-)
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

ancient_one

Quote from: Timandra on May 19, 2009, 10:46:05
Thank you astralmugee for answering. Your experience sounds very extraordinary, especially because it lasted at least 30 minutes. Mine only last 3 seconds at the most. I don't think it is a visualisation, because they are started with the intention of seeing something in particular. My images just happen out of the blue, while I am trying to fall asleep. They are in the hypnagogic state, but then with the full 3 dimensional feel and sight and the sensing of the atmosphere that goes with the image. I also get the normal hypnagogic images, they are more like watching a film, not at all the feeling that you are right there. I have had 3 of these 3-D experiences now since December 2008, that is when I started to get more interested in obe's and lucid dreaming.  :-)

Timandra
You know, if your experience, brief as it was, was not an OOBE but some other precursor- you are bound to have some very intense OOBEs when it does happen.  The description of your experience lacks a few key indicators of OOBEs. But, hey- Who is to say? It could just be a different type of OOBE than most are commonly having.   
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Timandra

Could it be that just my consciousness went out of my body and not my astral body? Like a rapid shift from one place (my body) to the spot between the stars and back again. If that is possible at all.
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

CFTraveler

Quote from: Timandra on May 17, 2009, 14:19:17
One time I woke up and kept my eyes closed and tried to stay relaxed so I could fall alsleep again. Then suddenly I was between the stars and planets with an awsome 3D sight. It was so clear and sharp and I felt a certain atmosphere. It really felt like I was there. Alas it only lasted about 2 seconds. Was this some sort of obe? I would like to hear your opinions.
Thank you.
Timandra
Yes, you phased into the Void.  It is a projection, not necessarily into an astral plane or focus.  This is a good experience, most people want to go there and can hardly.
There are many types of projections- all involve the focusing of consciousness- depending on the type of projection, some will be more 'realistic' and mechanical (OBE to the RTZ or etheric) and others will be more like melting into a landscape-phasing, for example.
They are all projections, what differs is the degree of closeness to the physical- but they are all projections.

Timandra

Quote from: CFTraveler on May 20, 2009, 14:38:44
Yes, you phased into the Void.  It is a projection, not necessarily into an astral plane or focus.  This is a good experience, most people want to go there and can hardly.
There are many types of projections- all involve the focusing of consciousness- depending on the type of projection, some will be more 'realistic' and mechanical (OBE to the RTZ or etheric) and others will be more like melting into a landscape-phasing, for example.
They are all projections, what differs is the degree of closeness to the physical- but they are all projections.
Thank you Ancient one and CFTraveler. I had never heard of phasing before, I was very pleased with your answer CFTraveler. This means that I have these experiences without trying to get them which is a good sign. I am now trying to find more information about phasing, especially a way to extend the experiences because they are magic places to explore! I think now that I have had many more of these phasing-experiences as I read through my dreamjournals. I started having these images in 2006 but not as many and not always with the feelilng that I am really there. Also sometimes I see myself in these images, is that phasing as well or another type of projecting? Or could they be a kind of memory from some other type of projection? E.g. I saw myself saying goodbye with a hug to someone who was all dressed in white. This becomes more and more interesting.  :-D
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

CFTraveler

They could be clairvoyant episodes (of the precog type), but to me they are all projections- just through time as well as space.  Or something like that.  :lol: