I know that this should probably be in the other section, but i'm gonna let you know the full experience so that it may help anyone who is new or has not been able to project yet and give them another experience to read (They seem to be thin on the ground). Hopefully i'll get some help on my question as well.
Last night I was having a nightmare and woke up in the middle of the night. When I woke up, i had a bad stomach (which always seems to happen before or after I have a nightmare). When I woke up, I tried for ages to go to sleep, but could not, so I watched TV for about an hour. After I watched TV, i managed to get straight back to sleep. I woke up later but didn't know whether I was in the physical or the astral. To find out, I tried to make my body vibrate and it did meaning that I was in the astral, I kept this up for about 20 seconds (it normally makes the split easier for me) and then sat up. I could feel the elastic type feeling that i usually get trying to pull my astral body back into my physical, but i dragged myself out and ended up flat on my face on my bedroom floor :lol:. I jumped out of my bedroom window and floated to the ground outside, a gang of kids 15/16 years old were walking past and one of them saw me and said something, they looked as if they could be negative and I didn't want to be stuck talking to people, so I just said hi and continued on up the road. I noticed that there was a little bit of snow in the middle of the road (not much, but enough to make snowballs), I looked up the street and a girl was at the top of the street making a snowball, so i made one myself. I decided to fly up the rest of the street and when I was past her, I playfully threw the snowball, she smiled and then threw hers back at me. I continued around the corner and came to the crossroads in the street.
At the crossroads I started to think "Where do I want to go?", in the end i decided that I was going to visit someone. This is where I have my problem, rather than just wander the streets, I wanted to be in a different place. In the past i have tried to think of the place that I want to be but I have never been (not that I can remember) successfull, sometimes I just end up back in my body. To get some inspiration, i've started to read Robert Monroe's Journeys out of the body (The first book on AP that I have ever read, even though i've been able to do this for quite a while), in his book he says that rather than thinking of the place, you have to think of the the person that you want to visit. I started to think of the person that I wanted to visit and before I knew it I was in a different place. Rather than being in the same place as the person that i wanted to visit, i funnly enough ended up at another crossroads, but these crossroads were in a dark alley, it took me a few seconds but I recognised where I was at, I was quite near my old house. A women was walking along the alley towards me and again I just said hi and continued on my way. I was quite near a relatives house and decided to go and visit them the old fashioned way (quite a few wierd things have happened in that house, so it would have been interesting), but before I knew it, I was back in my physical body. As with most of my APs, the whole thing only seemed to last a few minutes.
Does anyone have any tips or methods that work for them?
I have actually done this before by wanting to see a person (not place). A few years ago I wanted to go and see a couple of relatives that had not long passed. After about 3 weeks of trying to go and see them without success, I eventually asked my guide to take me to them and it worked. I've heard of a lot of people saying that they can do this themselves without help and it is probably quite simple once you've done it a few times. Guides are great if you need help doing things, i've even had to ask for help getting out of my body on more than one occasion, but I'd rather be able to do things on my own.
By the way, when I looked out of my bedroom windows this morning it had been snowing a bit. Most of it had melted (not that there was much in the first place) but you could still see bits.
I have had some success at times with this but have not tried it in a long time. I think it's easiest to visit someone you really want to see like if you have a strong emotional attachment. A lover makes a good target! I also find if I am too tense mentally, too stressed about success for failure, it won't work. I have to set the intent but then sorta let go and let myself go there. And it can take a few seconds to get there so I have to be a tad patient. Mostly, I need to try to be zenlike calm and not stress out about success or failure while it is happening.
I have also gone to a few places instead of just looking for people, so it is possible. I have never successfully made waking people see me in the waking state though, which is probably why I got bored with the experiments after a time. Going to see more houses and streets and stuff is not as exciting as some other stuff can be!
-Eva
How is it that these people see you?
And how did you manage to make a snowball?
I thought that the astral body couldn't interact with the physical realm?
fableflame,
I think your a bit confused. When you project in to the astral plane into a real time projection, nearly everything looks and acts like the physical plane by default. The people that I saw were either from the astral plane, other people who were projecting or possibly people who were a sleep. I very much doubt that any of them were physical people at that time of night. They could see me because they could see my astral body and I could see them because I was seeing their astral bodies. Like I say, nearly everything in the astral plane can be like it is in the physical, so you can do things like make snowballs and throw them. What you do in the astral plane doesn't happen in the physical though e.g. if someone was walking past, they wouldn't be able to see a snowball magically make itself and then fly through the air lol (It would be a lot of fun if they could though). You can do a lot of other things in the astral plane that you can't do in the physical, like fly or pass through walls or windows etc. just by thinking about it when you do it.
This next bit might confuse you but i'll try to explain it as simple as possible. You basically have two bodies, a physical body and an astral body (soul if you like). During the day when you are awake, your physical body and astral body are held tight together (I like to think about it as kind of like an elastic effect). When you relax your body e.g. your body goes to sleep, this elastic type effect also relaxes and your physical and astral body can move apart (or split).
If you are in a situation... say during the day and you project in to real time and lets say that you go an visit someone who is awake, you can actually see pretty much what they are doing in the physical as their astral body is tightly connected to their physical during this time. You can sometimes even speak to them, but you are speaking to their astral body and not their physical body and therefore they don't know that it is happening.
As far as i'm aware, you can't interact with people in the physical plane when you are in the astral plane, only their astral bodies. Most of what I have learnt is from projecting and learning things when i'm conciously there. As I wrote earlier on in this post, i've started reading my first book on astral projection for inspiration so that I can progress (Robert Monroe's Journeys out of the body), in this book he says that he projected in to real time an went to visit a friend. He visited her during the day and was even speaking to her in the astral plane. He nipped her in the astral plane and saw her jump back. When he spoke to her in the physical, he could explain to her everything that was happening and she confirmed what he was saying was true, but she could not remember him speaking to her, she did however have a bruise where he had nipped her and she felt it when he nipped her!!!
So if you can't communicate or interact with people in the physical plane how could this happen? (If it really happened at all)
The following is my theory so take it with a pinch of salt, it could or probably is wrong but still it is the only explanation I can think of for this type of thing. Your astral body can talk to your physical body and this is how people who are psychic etc. get their information, the astral body is relaying things back to the brain or the astral body is talking to another astral entity and then relaying it back to the brain. It might be possible that if the astral body is pinched, that it relays this information back to the physical brain and the brain reacts as if the physical body has been pinch e.g. the feeling of pain and the bruising.
Like I say, that is my theory so take it with a pinch of salt.
Thanks NightLight.
I was confused. I'm new to AP. I didn't know that Astral Planes close to the physical would have properties similar to the physical.
Also, I liked your theory, no pinch of salt needed :D
Your post cleared up a few things for me. Thanks again.
NightLight
The people that you you interacted with during your OBE where either
a) people that where also having an OBE or
b) people that were OOB but only experienced it as a dream (thought that they were Only dreaming) or
C) people who had died (ghosts).
In any case it does not make too much difference who you encountered. The important point is that your progression into the astral/ethereal realm seems to be going well. So there is no real cause for concern.
Just keep trying to project ! and see what happens.
Grey