Afternoon experience

[MisterJingo]

Earlier this afternoon I went OBE. During the OBE I was inundated with memories (and Déjà vu symptoms) which seem to detail countless OBEs I had forgotten during waking consciousness. They were nothing amazing, but seemed to suggest I have a lot more experiences under my belt than I usually remember.
I also seemed to discover (at least part of) a reason why some of my OBEs end, or aren't accessible to waking memory. It had to do with doing 'non-normal' activities while OBE, and waking day conditioning (i.e. we cannot fly etc) conflicting. It seemed my OBEs on the whole would be stable until I started to fly, which sometimes would see an immediate return to body, or lessening of lucidity. It also seemed that I forgot a lot of such experiences.
I'm not sure if there is any truth to this, but it might be interesting to explore it .

[Selski]

Interesting assessments.  

That would explain why I can't seem to go anywhere fast during my OBEs.  As soon as I start to zoom at a pace quicker than running, I am immediately back in the physical.

And would also explain why I can't fly yet.  Although I can levitate.  :meditate:  And float around slowly.

The 'RTZ' OBE is a real enigma in my opinion.  It doesn't seem to fit any logic, neither can I "box" it, as it seems that my experiences are much more fluid than stable.  

I've also had that knowledge that I've had a shedload more experiences than initially thought.  I believe I have OBEs on a much more regular basis, but they are housed within dreams and I remember tiny snippets of them, for example rolling around inside my physical body and getting to the edge of the bed, and then either BAM, I'm back, or I lose conscious.   It makes me wonder whether we do "get out" every time we sleep.  Of course, it's all speculation.  

I also think RTZ OBEs can send you potty if you think about them too much...  

Sarah

[MisterJingo]

Interesting assessments.

That would explain why I can't seem to go anywhere fast during my OBEs. As soon as I start to zoom at a pace quicker than running, I am immediately back in the physical.

And would also explain why I can't fly yet. Although I can levitate.  And float around slowly.

The realisation I had during the OBE just felt like a 'known' which I had forgotten. I was looking out of a window in the RTZ (it was the house I grew up in), and everything was super detailed. I then stood up and flew through the window and immediately lucidity faded (it was actually like lucidity started to fade with the intention to fly – so it happened milliseconds before I actually put the flying thoughts into action). Thinking of this just caused déjà vu from last night . I think I had an experience, but can't fully focus on what it was  :confused: .

The 'RTZ' OBE is a real enigma in my opinion. It doesn't seem to fit any logic, neither can I "box" it, as it seems that my experiences are much more fluid than stable.

I've also had that knowledge that I've had a shedload more experiences than initially thought. I believe I have OBEs on a much more regular basis, but they are housed within dreams and I remember tiny snippets of them, for example rolling around inside my physical body and getting to the edge of the bed, and then either BAM, I'm back, or I lose conscious. It makes me wonder whether we do "get out" every time we sleep. Of course, it's all speculation.  

I also think RTZ OBEs can send you potty if you think about them too much...  

Sarah

Yeah. I have a lot of half remembered/felt experiences, but I usually don't class them as OBEs because I'm not 100% certain they were.
Something I've also noticed is that I seem to have a lot of 'paranormal' experiences in the hypnogogic stage, but it's almost like my mind can't see them. A few days back I had a detailed discussion with a woman's voice, yet, when I realised what I was doing, the experience immediately faded.
I have a theory that I've taught myself to 'ignore' these experiences through the use of techniques which actively ask you to ignore hypnogogics /clear the mind/stare into the blackness. Over time, we notice fewer hypnogogics than we did (they are still there, we just don't see them). I'm actively trying to reverse this now .
It seems there is a tremendous amount of experience which we are actively participating in, but the conscious mind and external stimulus wash over it.
A recent experience I had was suddenly becoming aware in an AP sense of flying. From lying in bed I was flying with wind rushing past me, and I seemed to realise that I (or parts of me) could be doing other things to the 'me' typing this now. But once again, much of it is missed.

[Selski]

Something I've also noticed is that I seem to have a lot of 'paranormal' experiences in the hypnogogic stage, but it's almost like my mind can't see them. A few days back I had a detailed discussion with a woman's voice, yet, when I realised what I was doing, the experience immediately faded.

Yes, this happens to me very regularly.  I can occasionally follow the process as I'm falling asleep (from thinking coherently to nonsensicalness to some sort of meaningful conversation with another being), but more often than not I lose it during the nonsensicalness.

It's extremely frustrating when you suddenly realise you've just been talking/walking with someone else.  As soon as you realise it, you are no longer doing it.  It's as if our conscious mind is not allowed to participate - at whatever cost.  

The conversations seem to be totally logical, sensible, very mature and at times beyond my limited intelligence.  That's what I glean from the tiny snippets that I do remember.  Mind you, they are extremely tiny snippets!  Perhaps our minds can't participate because either we wouldn't understand and therefore wouldn't absorb the information, or we would try to analyse and miss the point completely.  Or perhaps not.  

Either way, I'm quite addicted to the hynogogic stage!  

Sarah

[Vilkate]

Mmm, I enjoy the voices, too...
Just last night I was absolutely sure I am talking to an elderly Japanese man, who was telling me something about facing fears..
My guide, maybe?