Sister's OBE

[ATTOJ]

My sister woke me up last night because she had her first conscious OBE and we talked about it for hours, funny thing is earlier during the day I brang up APing to her, she told herself before she went to sleep that she would astral project and she did. Anyways, she has a few questions. At first she was in a house full of people who just seemed to be going about their business, she didn't get a good vibe from the house, it felt like she was in a drug house or something where addicts stayed, these people just gave her blank stares, and then she ended up back at our house and saw a few people in our hallway, she kept asking them "who are you?" over and over again and once again they gave her a creepy blank stare and didn't say a word, so she said I need to get out of here because it was a scary experience, so then the OBE turns for the better and shes in nature flying around and experiencing ectasy, she ends up at a playground with this kid who also seemed like he was kind of "in a rut", meaning dirty clothes, smoking a cigarette, etc. My sister said she was really really excited to see him even though she didn't know who he was, he said "dont you remember me? im the kid from the junglebook", which doesn't make much sense, but then he says "I know you didn't mean for this(OBE) to happen, but it will change your life forever", and then he had to leave.

So a few questions,
1. What kind of people/beings did she encounter at first?
2. The people seemed to know she was there, but why the blank stare? Why didn't they talk to her?
3. My sister has done alcohol/drugs in the past, could that be the reason why she ended up in somewhat of a negative environment where people were stuck in ruts just like she was?
4. Who was the person she met with? Could it have been a guide? She did mention a kid she went to elementary school with that she used to play with at the playground, could this be him, possibly if he is deceased?

[Greytraveller]

Greetings ATTOJ
First of all I think you are fortunate to have a family member with whom you can talk to about OBEs and AP and discuss these experiences with. Actually that situation is quite rare.
Regards your questions.
1. People encountered in the astral during an OBE or AP are normally of three types ---
i) other live people who are also experiencing either an OBE or a dream,
ii) non-physical (dead) people who permanently inhabit the astral, or
iii) thought creations/dream characters created by the OBEers' own mind.
These 3 types can be encountered in combination of ways and it is often difficult to tell one type from the other.
2. If they had been doing drugs then the blank stares would be a result of those drugs
3. Yes, very possible. In the astral like-minded people usually attract one another and end up in the same place. Not saying that your sister is a druggie. But for that night alone it Is possible that part of her mind/psyche ended up in a (depressingly) familiar atmosphere.
4. Yes, again, but of course it is very hard to know for sure.

Regards 
Grey

[nikolai]

So a few questions,
1. What kind of people/beings did she encounter at first?
2. The people seemed to know she was there, but why the blank stare? Why didn't they talk to her?
3. My sister has done alcohol/drugs in the past, could that be the reason why she ended up in somewhat of a negative environment where people were stuck in ruts just like she was?
4. Who was the person she met with? Could it have been a guide? She did mention a kid she went to elementary school with that she used to play with at the playground, could this be him, possibly if he is deceased?

Hey ATTOJ, your sister is a legend! Awesome stuff!

(((1. What kind of people/beings did she encounter at first?))

I would assume she encountered simple projections (her mind projected the image of those people). If you see my previous post (how to meet your guide - for newbies) I explain there what I understand as projections vs. independent energies. I had many 'blank responses' when asking projections questions. They can't answer you because they work from your thoughts and expectations. If you are looking at them and asking them a question and you are geniuinely curious your mind goes blank for a moment awaiting an answer from them - because the mind is blank, they also go blank.

However you can trick such a projection in saying whatever you want by simply thinking different thoughts when you ask it a question, and the projection will answer to you by repeating your thoughts (its quite funny, makes them look stupid - you can be looking at an intelligently dressed business lady in a business office with other business people there and then make her say all kinds of silly things for giggles), but even then it's speech will become gibberish after a few words (because your thoughts usually fluctuate, the speech will fluctuate). Now, I do not think those were independent energies as usually independent energies behave 'originally', they would not all just stare, some of them would be doing one thing, others another, some would stare, others wouldn't care, some might say something, others might burp instead, anything like a normal varied crowd of people would behave.

((2. The people seemed to know she was there, but why the blank stare? Why didn't they talk to her?))
From my experiences projections and negative energies 'notice' you as soon as you notice them (like a mirror). But negative energies usually attack, as soon as they notice you they go straight for you, projections just go blank waiting for your next thought/emotion to react (if you get scared they might attack too, just copying whatever you think/feel).

((3. My sister has done alcohol/drugs in the past, could that be the reason why she ended up in somewhat of a negative environment where people were stuck in ruts just like she was?))
Only she can know this, or if she tripped with a guide then guide can answer her questions about the environment. I can't speculate on this at all. Astral is huge, I have no idea where she ended up. She might have perceived the environment as 'negative' but in reality it was not a negative environment at all, she simply got scared because its her first trip, and so she misjudged it. Many things could be going on.

One thing I do know is that she landed there for a good learning reason. If this reason is not explained verbally or telepathically, then she needs to simply spend some time thinking about the place she landed in, how it made her feel, what it might mean. Her thoughts would provide her with the reason (it is for her to grow somehow, to evolve into a 'happier/free-er' person, but exactly how depends on what she understands about it all).

She may also never know what the lesson was, as some lessons are not consciously understood, they simply need to be experienced (a lot of emotional lessons I found are like this, to do with fear, sadness, empathy, kindness - maybe they are to help us develop emotions and connect with those emotions in the physical). So maybe if she experienced sadness, then the goal was to connect that feeling with her past, so she does not feel too critical of herself, that she understands that she was hurting at that time and heal herself more through that understanding. It could be anything really.

(((4. Who was the person she met with? Could it have been a guide?)))
Well it definintely doesn't sound like a projection. I say based on its behaviour it was an independent energy (see my other post about guides for newbies) and as it said it knows her it is connected to her somehow, but how we can only guess. I don't like to guess, so I'm not going to.

Exactly who this was or what, can't really say to be honest, there is not enough data to make any comment, we can't even rely on simple logic here. Next time she is in doubt she can just ask, ask it 'Are you my guide? Where is my guide? I want to meet him!' and see what the energy says (thats how I met my guide 'in person' the first time). Most useful thing for astral: "Talk to everyone, all the time, about everything!" - this way she will learn fast what is what, who is who and what to do, energies will teach her things, show her things, explain her things and so on.

Think of astral like physical (but safer), you suddenly land in some place on Earth without any idea what it is or what is done there - the fastest way to find out - is to start asking questions from the first person you see. Within a few minutes you will know quite a lot.

[nikolai]

dont you remember me? im the kid from the junglebook

Guides often do this, they package a simple meeting with a huge amount of symbolism and terms which the person may not understand at first, but begins to understand later. I understand that its all aimed to help the person overcome whatever current difficulties they might be facing in life. The more the person understands the symbols the more they understand what is causing their difficulties and how to behave differently so their life is less stressful/painful.

Even the way the kid was behaving is possibly highly symbolic, if she considers what the kid was doing, how it was dressed, what was around it - anything caught her attention? Then she can consider what that could mean for her, and then see what kinds of thoughts pop up in her mind.

First time I met my guide he was a janitor fixing problems in the house (he fixed 2 problems as I was talking to him: one was a lamp in the ceiling, and another was a hole in the floor) - at that time I was spending too much time in meditation which was hurting me. I understood his symbology as to create a balance between 'higher things' (meditation) and 'lower things' (normal life goals). I changed my life by reducing meditation time, and my experience of life improved (i stressed less). Yesterday I met my guide and a golden watch on his desk caught my attention at first. Then I talked to the guide about my life plans and he explained that I have about 1 year to get one of my current tasks finished (I need to get a book published). Then I understood the symbology of the 'golden watch' (time is precious).

Treasure every single dream, every single astral experience, there is much learning in them if one contemplates what they could mean for them.