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Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences => Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! => Topic started by: Alejo on April 24, 2012, 00:36:38

Title: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Alejo on April 24, 2012, 00:36:38
Hello all,

I've been having several times a night this sensation I wake up from bed and start walking in the house until everything turns white and I am in bed again. About 4 or 5.

I see my GF sleeping in bed and all stuff from the room.

Now, I wonder if that is a OBE or just a lucid dream.

The other question I have relates with lucid nightmares...

I often get the sensation I am in my room and suddenly a "shadow" attack me. At first I took a beating (yes, it did hurt which is weird because I never experience pain in my dreams), but I began to fight back, with lousy results. I just managed to get a hold of it. The last times I've been actually asking this shados for his or her name but they often just laugh.

I usually wake up with small scratches, which I show to my GF.

But this last time it was somewhat scarier. I was lying in bed and some dude (which I could see) sstarted punching me. Then I woke in bed again. Then another figure started harassing me. I told him to quit already. Then I woke up. Then my GF cuddled me until she told me: "what if I am the shadow" and started biting me. I really didn't knew it was a lucid dream, it was VERY realistic. Then I asked him what his name was, he it told me something like "I am the brother of pain". Then I woke up.

My GF said I was convulsing my entire body at some point while in my sleep.

This is getting anoying. I just cannot be afraid of going to sleep.

And I don't know where to ask...

Any hints would be appreciated.

Greetz from Chile.
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Anonymouse on April 24, 2012, 07:18:31
Well my friend. I know you've heared this a lot, but you have to try to face this fears. But, and there is a big but. By facing I don't mean fighting them with anger, but with love.

Next time you see that shadow coming to you, or anything harming. Just "send" them love, show them love.

All I can say is to be strong, and to be happy about being here. You've chosen to live this life, this experiences, for some reason. You're learning here.

Try this, and tell us how it goes.

Take care my friend.
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Contenteo on April 24, 2012, 10:46:36
Question:
Does it reset?

Like you are reliving the same chain of event in the same dream sequence, but goes back to the beginning when things get too intense?

Cheers,
Contenteo
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Alejo on April 24, 2012, 11:33:59
OK AN, I'll try that.

Thing is they just hit right of the bat.

Contenteo, yes it does, it's the wake up in a dream and so on sequence. Although the "fights" are not the same, the background is exactly the same. Even wake in the same position...
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Alejo on April 24, 2012, 11:38:14
Oh, another thing, not sure if it is a side effect.

May I have been developing OBE's? When I don't get these shadows I can actually move or float around the room for a brief moment, pull out my hand and feel like it's touching something and then wake up again. I am fully aware when this happens and I usually like think, "cool, let's try moving about the room".  :-D
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Quentin on April 24, 2012, 12:37:59
Hmmm.... I don't want to say that I am 100% correct, but to me it seems like you are
being attacked by negative entities from the astral plane. If the assaults are always different
and persistent, then you might really be dealing with some kind of entity.

You should try to surround yourself with white protective light before going to sleep. There is
a simple exercise you can do for this. Just before going to sleep, imagine yourself being filled
with warm protective light from the sun. Simply imagine a beam of light going right to your solar
plexus area and let your body overflow with energy until it forms a buble around you.

This should help you if it really is a negative entity. There are also a variety of different ways to
fight off negative entitis explained by Robert Bruce in one of his books. I just can't recall the exact
methods right now.

Let me know if things get any better.

Kind Regards

Quentin  :-)
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Lionheart on April 24, 2012, 18:09:22
 I keep awaking in what usually would be considered a nightmare. But I call it "training". I see myself in some kind of violent scene, demons, killers etc. and then I have to find a nonviolent way of handling it or else the dream will stay in a continual loop. I have to re-script over and over again until I get it right. This has been fascinating, unfortunately I find I have become too lazy to awaken and write the occurrences every single night. I used to write everything down when it occurred sporadically. Now it happens every single night, so it gets to be a bit much. I should practice what I preach though. I tell everyone the importance of logging your results every morning.
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Contenteo on April 25, 2012, 01:38:19
Quoteyes it does, it's the wake up in a dream and so on sequence. Although the "fights" are not the same, the background is exactly the same. Even wake in the same position...

As I thought; I had a ridiculous number of these when I was a child. They were always a curiousity to me growing up because my experiences were so vivid.

Looking back know I can say they were indeed projections. The plot always got skewed back then though, into this weird loop. If I had to take a fair guess, it was becuase I was an inexpeirienced traveler. It was like my projection slipped back into a lucid dream state. I had control, but then lost it somewhere. For whatever reason, I replayed the loop in my head.

I would also venture to say that this is probably the same deal. I would suggest practicing deepening. (Rubbing your imaginary hands together) the metaphsyical imagery helps get control. This is often a tactic used to go from lucid dreaming to projecting. I imagine it would help in a reverse situation. In addition a strong knowledge of what is going on a practice help. A number of my projections happen when I realizer all of a sudden I am dreaming, and just take control; or in this case, you would train yourself to deepen, gaining control.

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Contenteo



Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Anonymouse on April 25, 2012, 07:16:35
How did last night go?
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Alejo on April 25, 2012, 11:52:30
I'm confused now Contenteo. You mean dream loop? dreaming the same thing?

I had the loop dream sequence when I was a kid and when I was young, but the different thing about these ones is that I actually wake up with scratches and low bruises. As a matter of fact, my GF today said to me, "You have another scratch", a small scratch in my cheek (the day after yesterday I had another one), next to my nose (out of shaving range) I didn't have yesterday night. I don't have cats nor nails (I eat them steady, kinda neurotic nowadays), just to rule out possible options because believe me I have been doing that.

And... a very disturbing thing happened yesterday night too... I may take a while to elaborate since I was not conscious. It's like sleepwalking out of the blue (last thing I remember is walking down the street back from a party) and speaking clearly. According to my GF I was acting very oddly and with a weird smile on my face. I know this sounds ridicolous. She even asked me who I was -since she knows about my dreams and night convulses- and I replied Itll always been me. She then broke an egg on my head :P

Suddenly I passed out or like the thing happens when you are really drunk and then I woke up completely sober the next second.

FFS. I'm off to see a native shaman around here.

BTW no new lucid nightmares the past days.
Title: Re: Nightmares or OBE, question.
Post by: Contenteo on April 25, 2012, 21:09:21
Well that's some crazy stuff. I am no forensic investigator here, so you are going to find out what caused those scratches yourself. I can guarantee you it has nothing to do with projection, unless you are known to thrash around in your sleep.

I can tell you though, that as cliche as it sounds, acceptance of something is a form of intent. Accepting that you are experiencing something with a possible answer or even the act of reaching out to the forum and asking a question. The very act of posting - is the type of thing that can change your subconscious. You got it out of your system. This is a very plausible answer for maybe why the experiences stopped.

Dream loop, yes experiencing the same chain of events in one 'sleep session' almost like a broken record, but each time during the loop, the inputs are the same, but your decisions changed the outcome.

Please don't fall into the mindset of evil spirits. Once you accept that, you open a Pandora's box of possibilities. for instance, the ancients thought lightning was the act of Zues/Jupiter/Thor, etc. We know now that it is the culmination of mass amounts of static charge from tiny ice particles rubbing up against one another within a mature cumulonimbus cloud bank. Something completely beyond their past current comprehension. What I mean, is it's ok to say you don't know. Don't compromise your mental model to try to fit a piece into the puzzle. Your mental model of this phenomenon is all you got. Protect it.

Cheers,
Contenteo