Bad Experience

[alt0xFF]

Been there, done that, as they say. I'm sure many people here experienced such encounters as well.

In fact, these SP attacks were responsible for my involvement in AP-ing.

Regarding these bad guys: one theory is that they are hallucinations and producs of your own imagination. Another possibility is that they are cases of "negs" - actual astral entities that are not so friendly.

In my case, I learned to deal with them by engaging, what R.Monroe calls "resonant energy baloon". Even though I don't know whether it is actually "for real", it is good enough to keep these guys away. The last time I got such a visit, I engaged the shield and told the entity to f$ck off. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to test the effectiveness of this method further, since the attacks stopped after that.

One thing to remember is that any kind of fear is effectively eliminated by related knowledge.

Here's a source which will make you feel ordinary and unspecial with regard to your experiences.
http://www.arts.uwaterloo.ca/~acheyne/S_P.html

[thechunk05]

A friend of mine has similar experences quite often and he calls it sleep paralysis, where one half of your brain is awake and the other half still in the dream state.

[AndrewTheSinger]

A curse for some, a blessing for others... the darkness between dreams is the so called trance state. There are many levels of trance, daydreaming for instance is light trance, the deeper levels of trance are experienced while resting. Like thechunk05 said it, it is also known as sleep paralysis. The astral projection happens from the medium to deep trance, by applying some technique for separation.

I've recently had an experience similar to yours during the trance, I wanted to have an obe so I created a sensation of movement. I tumbled upside down (in my imaginary body) but then I noticed I wasn't quite out yet. In the darkness of my closed eyes I saw my arms shinning, the right arm bright as gold, and the left white as snow. I played around with it for awhile moving my arms, then I tried to imagine I was holding a cup of glass but it didn't work, then I awoke.

You can play around with your imagination, create sounds, music, images, colours, it's  pretty cool, nice to get alot of inspiration cause your mind is not bounded while you're there.

[AstralKnight]

Thanks for the info.  The website provided was very comforting to read.  I'm more inclined to believe that it was a creation of my own will and not a neg, Satan, Darth Vader, aliens etc.  I think it's very important to be discerning when dealing with dreams and altered states, hence my more rational stance on this issue.  A lot of the explanations in those articles mentioned symptoms that concur almost precisely to what I experienced.

To top it off, there's been a lot of stress in my life recently - something that is never good for sleep.

In any event, I feel much better having written about it.  I seriously felt like I was going nuts after that episode.[]

[rodentmouse]

the most memorable  dream/hypnogogic phenomena ive  experienced since  i  started to train to be able to OBE  have been the hellish,  terrifying ones.

like andrew says, a blessing for some, curse for others.

in most  OBE books  things like this are described as  thought forms, negs,  incubus attacks..  the  reccuring  plus  is  that they cant  harm  you in any way.

[AstralKnight]

hello all,

I'd like to describe an incident that happened last night.

Before going to sleep, I did light meditation for relaxation.  As usual, the swaying sensations and hypogogic (sp?) imagery was present - this happens virtually every time.

I drifted off to a sleep state, but don't remember leaving my body.  I believe I was OBEing, again this is not too uncommon for me.  I have been naturally good at OBE (I believe low level only at this point) and especially lucid dreaming.  I do not remember specifics of the dream.

I remembered suddenly being 'wrenched' out of the dream into a darkness that I can only describe as being alive, and malicious beyond comprehension.  A fear had built up inside of me, an irrational fear that the darkness was going to destroy me.  I started fighting for my life against this darkness, and was pulled I believe back into my body at the same time which only made things worse.

I was flailing wildly, gasping for my very existance and feeling like I could not breathe.  I have NEVER been so frightened, scared and alone in all my life.  I remember flailing my 'arms' - and I was able to see my astral arms for the first time.  They were a pale milky white, translucent, but somewhat ill-formed.  They seemed to streak or melt when I looked at them.  Moving my arms was very difficult, I liken it to trying to move your real arm when it falls asleep.  It was sluggish, like a ton of bricks.

Pressed against my body, I opened my physical eyes and had the weird sensation of looking through two sets of eyes.  This only made things worse.  I remember then, in the blackest of black - a cloaked and hooded figure appeared.  It was thin, somewhat tall, and the cloak covered its whole body.  I could not make out its face in the cloak.  But I was intensely afraid of it, so afraid that I thought I might die.  The fear seemed to eminate from it, invisible, but I could feel it palpably as what I can best describe as 'waves of fear'.  

I told it to go away, and the fear got worse and worse.  I could now hear a rushing sound in my ear, like the sound of a waterfall.  The figure stood there, said nothing, but I could sense a hatred that is indescribable.  I tried to move my physical body at this time but was unable to for quite some time.  I wanted to RUN, I wanted to SCREAM.

Finally, the scene melted and as I awoke to my physical body the scene morphed back into my room right in front of my eyes.  I found that my eyes were already open, and had in fact been open for a while.

I hope this makes some sense.  It's hard to fully describe just how terrifying this was.  I am not easily frightened, I have a skeptical tendency and consider myself somewhat rational in my dealings with these things (to avoid delusion).  But I can tell you that this was very real, it was much different than a mere dream and it scared the living daylights out of me.

I'd like to know what anyone thinks of this.