OBE attempt while in a dream, comparing LUCID differences to OBE

[mr_coffee]

Hi everyone!

Super weird experience lastnight.   I was having a dream and I wasn't lucid I don't think.  It was almost like I was just following the dream but in the dream I was actually trying to have an OBE.  My surroundings were very metal and dark, almost like I was in an underground city that got blown apart years before.  I had some people with me although I didn't know who they were but continued to follow the dream out.   

I soon found myself upon this huge metal scrap and the lady also next to me.  She bent over like she was going to pray and I laid on her back as if this was the natural thing to do.   I then closed my eyes and the best way to describe it is I was letting my non-physical reach out of my body.  I remember thinking, OH wow this is so easy! I found a way to get to the vibrational state in a few seconds just by letting my non-physical reach out.  I could visually see some mist reaching out of my body and as soon as the mist reached out I could instantly feel the vibrations although they were less powerful than I felt in the physical.  I didn't go anywhere I was just impressed I could feel the vibrations so fast and so easy in this state of consciousness. 

I then repeated this about 4 times to make sure this technique was solid.  After the 4th attempt failed I then realized I was actually dreaming already.  I still feel this wasn't an OBE because once the vibrations went away I was still in the same spot.  I then wanted to see how different a lucid dream was to an OBE.  I requested clarity and the clarity I got was pretty good but nothing compared to what I experienced during an OBE. 

I then knew someone was in the far distance that I wanted to see and I started running super fast (which is also something I never do in the astral).  In the astral I'm always flying and I dont' run, I simply teleport to where I want to go.  I also noticed I'm not as aware in the lucid dreams.  Even after asking for clarity things seem disconnected and my attention can't  focus on more than one thing.  While in the astral I can focus on everything and it feels REAL where a lucid dream feels like a dream although the surroundings are very similar (meaning you can do whatever you want).  I recall the feeling of going through the steel walls and it feeling just like it does in the astral.   Once I met the person I wanted to see sex occurred which is also something I never do in the astral either as I get this feeling of pureness. So sex never even comes into my mind as I feel its a waste of time and something I wouldn't want to do.  I then got transported into another crazy dream and woke up for work.

I honestly don't care to put terms on my experiences but this was the first time I could actually tell the difference since I now can compare with my OBEs. 

So to summarize, the differences I noticed:
LUCID
1.  Clarity isn't as good, even after requesting
2.  Form of transportation is more human (although It can be changed of course)
3.  Sexual desires still are there

OBE
1.  Clarity is amazing, you can zoom up on anything and everything
2.  Floating all the time without thinking about it, teleporting if I need to go somewhere
3.  No desire of sex, just a feeling of pureness
4.  A feeling that time is running (probably because I feel like I'm going to go back to my physical)
5.  Feels like a real experience, and I recall everything very easily

[Szaxx]

Sounds ok to me too. Have a read on the Vehram system if.you're unaware of it. The dream points to this very accurately. The mist coming from you may be ectoplasmic in some way too. It all fits.
If its new then expect very strong vibrations. Definately worth trying.
If you're aware of the system it could simply be your subconcious playing around. Still worth trying though.
Let us all know the outcome.

[mr_coffee]

I've read about that system after I already had the strong high frequency vibrations above my chest.  Although its only above my chest that I ever feel the vibrations before exiting.  I've never felt any of the other points.   Although I did have an even higher frequency vibration the next night right after my first OBE that can't be compared to any of the other ones.

The thing that shocked me was trying to exit after being lucid.  I guess I never thought this would be possible although I did read about others doing similar things. I wasn't really looking for a confirmation about how different lucid dreams to OBEs are for me.  I treat any type of non-physical experiences equally.  But sometimes when I talk to others they just say it sounds like a lucid dream.  I just brushed it off and thought well to put names on any experience is odd and shouldn't make the experience any less amazing.   

[Szaxx]

If you're in a lucid dream you know it. Getting extra lucidity, enough where you have good control is where you can leave the dream and go to the void. Its that place between everything while non physical. Its easy to get there after a few attempts. Keep yourself aware as best you can and exit the dream as if it was a nightmare. Do this slowly and keep the blackness of the void in mind as your destination. Its part way to wakefulness so don't overdo it. Once in the void have a plan ideally of where or what you want to experience. This is the easiest way out from a dream to the astral or wherever nonphysical you wish to go. If you master this easily then ask questions and the answer will be given. Its form will be interesting enough so be precise. Whats on your mind will be taken too. Any doubts or fears are not wanted. Typical questions are,
show me what I need to learn to better myself.
Show me a place filled with love.
Nothing negative should be asked for too. You may not be shown or regret it.
See how you go with this. The info is amazing as it sometimes comes through an adventure.
When it ends, wake slowly keeping your memories very active. A pen may help too if you normally use one.
The results you have will be very interesting indeed.

[Spinney Lainey]

If you're in a lucid dream you know it. Getting extra lucidity, enough where you have good control is where you can leave the dream and go to the void.

How do you achieve that? I often exit my body during a lucid dream but what I tend to experience is often more like a dream. I'd like to be able to exit my body from a dream and enter the astral.

[Astralzombie]

                      How do you achieve that? I often exit my body during a lucid dream but what I tend to experience is often more like a dream. I'd like to be able to exit my body from a dream and enter the astral.

Here's how I do it, because...well...It's the only way I can project from a lucid dream. I can't ever just leave the dream and go where I want.

I have to erase the dream first. I can make the dream go away with intent but I can't project from it and go to specific place right off with intent. Once it fades away, I'm in that void. What seems to be weird in my case is that I often get some great stuff from the void and I know most people say they don't. I'm certain it is the void though.

[Spinney Lainey]

How do you erase it then?!

[Astralzombie]

How do you erase it then?!

I imagine a giant pencil with a huge eraser....NO, just kidding.

Like I said, with intent. I imagine the dream crumbling away. I start piece by piece and soon the whole thing crumbles away and nothing is left but the blackness. I don't know how to explain it any any easier though.

Good luck.

[Spinney Lainey]

Hmmm, will try it. The thing is, I keep having these experiences where I become lucid in a dream, aware that I'm lying in bed but it's never my actual bed or room, it's always a fake/dream one and then I leave my body and then fly around etc. I'm never quite sure what's going on, really. It's kind of like an AP and I'm pretty sure I am leaving my body but it's also like a dream......

[Szaxx]

AWARENESS is the key.
You have to wake yourself slowly ignoring the dream.
You actually do this forcing yourself awake from a nightmare.
I used the partly waking method 30 years ago and it still works. The main point is being aware you are actually dreaming. Once this is obvious to you it's a simple matter of just doing a full stop. Stop the images, stop the storyline, stop everything. This can make the dream fade into blackness aka the void or it starts another. By awakening yourself a little the void appears EVERY TIME without fail.
If its overdone you wake fully in the physical. Its a gentle push where you think of the void and totally ignore anything physical body related. Much the same as in a deep phase session. Thoughts manifest here so the usual fear removal requirement is necessary.
Once in the void anything beyond your imagination is possible. Be precise, thats the best thing to know to obtain expected results.
A gentle awakening. It's easy to say, you'd naturally fully awaken so take your time.

[Spinney Lainey]

Awesome!! Thanks for that. I feel hopeful. I've been looking for an answer to this for a long time! Fingers crossed!!!