The Astral Pulse

I've often wondered about these types of things myself.  After all, in MANY of my projections around my house, I've seen family members who I've interacted with who were not there in "real life"....I use that term loosely!

For example, when I was living with my folks, I had tons of experiences where I would project into the kitchen and talk with my mom.  For the most part, I tried to convince her that I was OBE (since she's a born again Christian and doesn't believe these are godly).

Since I'm of the belief that we're all multi-dimensional beings, I think that I was still interacting with my mom....just on another level of communication.  Just because you have an astral interaction with your wife and she has no physical memory of it does not mean that you didn't interact with her true self.  At least, that's the way I think of it.

I wonder what others think, since this is a good topic of discussion.


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Jeff Mash
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate them.  I too wonder if I am interacting with another aspect of my wife's true self (spirit).  Her spirit was somewhat "alarmed" that a "ghost" was in our house (DAY 5 projection experience).

I too am interested in what others think about this ... and what all of you have similiarly experienced while "out"!  Thanks for all your responses!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Hi Greg and Jeff,

I've had a very few of these sorts of things involving my husband. He doesn't recall them either.

In one, it was in the wee hours. I was trying to reach the vibratory state, trying very hard. I was certain I was awake. Certain.  No break in consciousness.

Out of the corner of my eyes, I see my husband get up to use the bathroom, which he does almost every night in the middle of the night.  I was still reaching for vibrations, no luck.

I think to myself "Knowing my luck, I won't project and my husband (skeptic) just did. He probably didn't really get up to use the bathroom, it was probably his astral self going there."

So I reach over and sure enough his body is fast asleep in bed.

During a false awakening earlier this summer I had a short conversation with my husband. He didn't remember it.

These all seem so real when they are happening! I mean, indistinguishable from 'reality.'  So either we really are talking with some aspect of our family members, or we're not - in which case I suppose we on this forum (though probably humanity in general) has occasion where they can't tell fantasy from reality.  It would be wonderful if they remembered the encounters.

I recall that Monroe's friend - the one that he pinched - was aware of him astrally  but he was concerned she wouldn't remember physically; and thus he  pinched her. Sure enough, she didn't remember, but had a pinch mark to prove his memory.  That makes it seem likely that we are really talking to aspects of our loved ones.

Patty

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Originally posted by Patty:
These all seem so real when they are happening! I mean, indistinguishable from 'reality.'  So either we really are talking with some aspect of our family members, or we're not.

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I know that it's usually a stretch of the imagination to picture all of us existing in more than one place at the exact same time.....but I'm reading John Edward's first book, and he put it so straightforward, I never forgot it.

He said it like this, in reference to us being multi-dimensional beings:

"Jerry Maguire doesn't know that Tom Cruise is 'Top Gun.'  But Tom Cruise knows knows both of them."

If you think about that for a minute (and you're like me), a light bulb just went off in your head, and you're thinking, "Man, that's an awesome analogy!"

However, if you assume that we're multi-dimensional, then interacting with others on the astral plane (despite their physical location being contrary to your observation) makes more sense.

Anyway, I don't pretend to have all the answers.....I'm just trying to piece together the puzzle with the information I've come across!  ::smile::




Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
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interesting stuff....I'm curious about whether you guys are
1)  interacting with your partners on another level of conciousness/ dimension / whatever (this is what I'd like to believe), or
2) this is a "roleplay" created in your minds. (hopefully not true)

as an aside......I'd like to ask you guys who have had these experiences, had you read about Monroe's similar experiences beforehand ? Its a possibility that any knowledge you had prior to projection, will have influenced your experience....

Mark

Hi Patty
Now that you mention it, I DO remember that part of Monroe's story.  I've always remembered the pinch, however, I didn't remember the part about him talking to her Astral Self  WHILE  her phyiscal self was conscious.

I now also remember another story Monroe told in *that* book about projecting into his daughter's bedroom for a visit (he was sleeping downstairs in the den I believe), only to find an early 40's woman there ... who said that she didn't want to engage in the *energy exchange* (astral sex) as she was sexually tired.  Monroe later discovered, by asking his wife, that her friend that was staying over (that's why he was in the den instead of their bedroom ... different sleeping arrangements) ended up sleeping in the daughter's room (unbeknownst to him) ... and that the friend had been involved in nightly passionate sex with her partner for the past week ... thus the reason why she was sexually tired.

This all makes you think ... doesn't it?!?!

Hi Jeff
That John Edwards analogy makes A LOT of sense ... thanks for sharing it.

These experiences, coupled with the theories and ideas were sharing, really have me excited.  Now, to get my wife *consciously* aware during these Astral encounters ... He, he, he!  That would REALLY change her skepticism! LOL!  Of couse, I'll ask her Astral Self for *permission* first ... if it is in my wife's best interest and for her highest good.

Thank you all for sharing your insights!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Hi guys,

Marc - I lean towards the consensus that we are communicating with our loved ones on another level, but I really have no way to know.

Jeff - i also like the analogy!

Greg - I had forgotten the tired visitor exchange that Monroe related. You have to love it! It does give me pause, to think that really are communicating.

You know, sometimes I think things are communicated differently while astral. For example, when I started looking for verification of being astral, I tried to read a note that my husband had hidden. I quickly became frustrated by the task because every time I projected, I would wake up as soon as I thought about reading the note.

Turns out that my husband, in his infinite wisdom and humor, had written a brief note that said simply : WAKE UP!!!!!!!!

I didn't laugh.

But I do wonder if I was accessing that information in a way that I don't 'remember,' because obviously I was waking up.

Patty

Guess what!

Dear hubby saw MY astral body last night. Hah! No, I don't remember it ---- but there was some validation ----

Here's what he saw:

He was lying in bed, he thought he was awake. He saw me get out of bed. Three minutes later he saw me get out of bed AGAIN. This was enough for him to say "Hunh?" and he realized that only the second time had I taken my body along ----

Here's what I remember:

Lying in bed, thinking I need to take some medicine. SHould I take the medicine, should I just go to sleep. Mentally back and forth, for several minutes. Eventually I got up to take the medicine.

It seems to me that the fact that I had WANTED to get up out of bed, but that my body was so nice and comfy,  - maybe either my hubby picked up on my thoughts and imaged me getting up, or maybe 'part' of me got up, and later the 'rest' followed. the whole multidimensional thing. It's validating to me that I had wanted to get up for several minutes, and he saw me get up several minutes before I actually did.

I wish I remembered the astral part, I guess I thought my awareness would be high enough to know if I was projecting! Apparently not! Hee hee. Fun stuff.

Patty

Hi Patty,
That's great ... absolutely GREAT!

So, from this experience, we can conclude *at least* two different scenarios.

First:  That you were BIOLOCATING ... so that a person (your husband in this case) could SEE YOU PHYSICALLY.

Second:  That if you were Astral-only (not physically visible), then your husband can see into the spiritual dimensions (Astral plane for starters).

So, anyhow ... what were your husband's emotional and mental responses to finally SEEING your ASTRAL SELF?

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful experience!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)

Hi Greg!

Yeah, it was almost as much fun hearing him tell me this, as it is to actually have a conscious projection! I've been grinning every time I think about it.

His response? He was grinning - I don't know if he thought he was having a weird brain glitch or what - he wasn't freaked, well he maybe was a little freaked when I told him that I had been thinking about getting out of bed for a few minutes before I actually arose. I think he thought he was having a precognitive flash -- Another possibility, but one that would say that I had nothing to do with the whole thing. Certainly possible. Of course, the idea that we were both involved in some way, that we were able to ... communicate? .... on another level - in a manner of speaking ..... is more thought provoking.  

What really might be going on? Fascinating possibilities.

Patty

I have had experiences lately that had me thinking-maybe we should modify the body asleep-mind awake idea to councious mind asleep, subconcious and superconcious minds awake, which explains why there is a dreamlike quality to obe's(the effect of the subconcious) and it is only when we have a strong superconcious connection that we have better quality obe's.
Patty-I think your story shows the power of our thoughts-they are powerful enough be seen by others! Better watch what we think! I remember some teacher say that we should watch our thoughts as if the people around us were able to hear them. I think your thoughts of getting up produced a "mental body" .

Hi Everyone,
I have had about a half dozen RTZ projections, which have included my wife ... and have some questions about these.  I'll post some examples for you all to review.  Note that each of these projections happen from a sleeping state, just prior to waking up in the morning, STARTING in a timeframe of 1-1.5 hours before getting up.  Each projection was induced using the WAKE-BACK-TO-SLEEP Lucid Dream/OBE method.

DAY 1
I become aware of sounds in our house, thinking I am awake (false awakening) and see my wife beside me in bed repeating a "mantra" phrase "XXXX is coming!" I can't remember who XXXX is ... this is the first time I recall seeing "The Visitor" in the bedroom (see http://www.astraldynamics.com/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=1633 for details on "The Visitor")

DAY 2
I project and find myself in my parent's house.  I then find my wife in the dining room and she CAN see me and talk to me.

DAY 3
I project and end up in OUR kitchen, finally gaining some clarity and shutting down of emotion.  I decide to go back to our bedroom and see my wife sleeping.  I get there, she's laying on her left side in fetal position (later confirmed).  I reach out and put my hand on her back.  She feels my touch and verbally acknowledges that she knows I'm there.  SNAP back into body.

I project out again, ending up in our kitchen.  My wife is there talking to me.  I ask her, "So you can see me?" to which she replies, "Yes."  SNAP back to body.

I have a false awakening, to which my wife and I are discussing that she knew it was me that walked up to her in bed and touched her, and that she could see my OBE in the kitchen.

DAY 5
I have a false awakening to wall knocking sounds in our house.  My wife asks me, "What's that?" to which I reply, "It's a ghost." and then a white translucent form (like the cartoon caracter "The Shmoo") zips up to me and attaches to the side of my neck.  I now try pulling the aparition/entity off and it stretches (ala Robert Monroe experience).  I try various methods of pulling, etc., after which I ask Arch Angel Michael to remove it and it disappears.


So, I have had SIX projections that all have involved my wife ... and of the ones that I have asked her about, she does not have any memory of it.  So, is this a classic example of emotions affecting my OBEs ... causing them to be an OBE-Dream hybrid?  Could she be OBE as well ... and just not know it (be dreaming)?  My wife does not project and is skeptical of my projections.  She is open to the idea *if* I can prove it to her.  Any other thoughts on this?

BTW, my wife's affect and actions in all but the DAY 1 experience has been one of calmness.  However, if the DAY 5 experience were to happen in real life, she would be freaked out ... so I'm wondering what is the significance of these experiences?!?!?

Thanks for your insight!

Cheers!
Greg Taylor :)

"Whatever consciousness may be, it's not a small thing" - Ingo Swann
"Oh, I... ain't got no ... body" - David Lee Roth (Van Halen)