The vast majority of my Spiritual experiences (>99%) are beautiful, peaceful, loving and Divine. On very rare occasions there can be an Astral, OBE, RTZ or a Divine experience that can invoke fear. It is important to note that a fear inducing event is not always created by a scary looking or a malevolent being. One particular experience I had, which I do consider a Divine experience, was extremely fear inducing and still sits far apart from all the rest of my experiences as it was overwhelmingly detailed, vivid, and so spectacular that I had difficulty processing it. I know the being I experienced meant me no harm. I was simply caught off guard and not ready to process such an overwhelmingly dazzling experience that came from the darkness. I shared my detailed experience with Rosalie privately (and a select few on the Astral Pulse) . Rosalie subsequently had her own frightening experience at the Monroe Institute, which she has spoken about publicly via her YouTube videos.
After her visit to the MI, she reached out to me regarding one of her courses and to chat. We had a very enjoyable and lengthy video conference on this topic, as well as many other topics. She has now done a YouTube video on this very subject on how to cope with fear encountered during Out of Body Experiences and in the Astral. She has wonderful incite on how to deal with the fear response. I speak very highly of Rosalie, she is extremely knowledgeable, sincere, kind and very advanced in spiritual matters. She is also an expert in Yoga Nidra and has created extensive and varying content demonstrating this technique. This particular form meditation is to create a mind awake and body asleep state that is used to trigger OBEs. Rosalie's "How to deal with fear" video is linked below. The video has some interviews with the Monroe Institute high tiered staff and trainers, which are very interesting. Her channel is called RosalieYoga. I figured this would be very helpful to those that struggle with fear.
Fear is incredibly easy to deal with - you make the realization that you are 100% perfectly safe and realize that absolutely no harm can come to you.
You project each and every night of your life and you've always woken the next day perfectly safe.
This knowledge allows you to transmute that fear into curiosity.
Hi Xanth, Though I agree...that is a very healthy and accurate mindset going in that we are perfectly safe. Under very rare circumstances, even going in with full awareness of the safety in the Astral, RTZ and higher realms, I was overcome by fear regardless in this instance. I never felt the being was going to harm me, in fact far from that. The experience for my earth bound spirit form was just too much to handle. I tell myself, if this encounter happens again, I will be ready for it and I believe I am. Once again, this experience is set far apart from all the rest. We are not talking about a thought-form in the RTZ or Astral here, I am talking about a life altering visit from a being very high up in the Divine realm. There is a very big difference. Everyone's experiences are different and some are at an intensity, splendor and vibrancy that are not often seen.
You've got some definitions you're playing with which I don't subscribe to.
"Astral"
"RTZ"
"Higher realms"
These are things which humans have subjectively labeled. It's like subjectively labeling the different forests of the earth as one being more "green" than another and believing that the more green they are, the "better" they are. This is a subjective way to look at it.
We're all part of consciousness. Consciousness as a whole. That includes everything. There is no higher or lower in the whole... there's only consciousness.
In regards to the fear - that was a choice you made. Being overcome by it is just another way to say you chose it. You're perfectly safe. You are an infinite being - so what are you afraid of exactly? Where does the source of that fear come from. What is the definition of what you're afraid of coming from? It's introspection.
Quote from: Frostytraveler on November 21, 2024, 08:13:34I am talking about a life altering visit from a being very high up in the Divine realm.
YOU are that being. I am that being. Everyone and everything is that being.
There's a perspective change you will eventually find. It comes to the point where all definitions eventually break down and you're left with... I guess the easiest term to use is: Source / Consciousness / That which is. Whatever you want to call it.
Does that make any sense?
I've head hundreds of APs in the past 20 + years. I know very well what the sleep paralysis and vibrations are, I know I am safe, but if I feel like something is walking in my bed and I can not see it and I am paralyzed, hell I freak out and wake myself up lol.
Quote from: LightBeam on November 21, 2024, 20:55:10I've head hundreds of APs in the past 20 + years. I know very well what the sleep paralysis and vibrations are, I know I am safe, but if I feel like something is walking in my bed and I can not see it and I am paralyzed, hell I freak out and wake myself up lol.
hehe The complete irrational nature of ourselves boggle the mind sometimes! :)
Quote from: Xanth on November 22, 2024, 14:23:49hehe The complete irrational nature of ourselves boggle the mind sometimes! :)
Hey, imagine we had nothing to overcome and discover. How boring our lives would be lol
hi Frosty,
If you have FB, watch this discussion with Julia Cannon (Dolores Cannon's daughter) and Kaya. They have these for the community every Friday and I love watching them. At 34 minutes mark Kaya discussed something that strongly resonated with your experience of the Light Being. These experiences are of such high vibration that our physical mind almost can not comprehend and if it tries to taking it all in, our physical bodies will explode. Perhaps your physical mind/ego was trying to protect the survival of the physical (through the reaction of fear) in the light of something so incredibly glorious.
https://www.facebook.com/DoloresCannonOfficial/videos/459997303781476/
Views for Spiritual matters can differ and I can respect that, but I find it important not to impose my or other views onto each other as irrefutable conclusions that must be adhered to. Everyone's experiences are incredibly unique and catered to that particular individual. I feel it's important to never lose sight of that.
Thanks for your thoughts and video link LB. Yes, both your post and Kaya's comments closely resembles my experience. What I experienced was overwhelming and so profound that it was too much for human senses. This experience was for me, and was needed for my own Spiritual progress. The experienced became so burned into my memory that even with eyes open or closed I can still see the experience 1.5 years later in vivid detail. It will stay with me forever.
As you mentioned this type of experience is so high vibration that our physical mind can not process it, comprehend it or take it all in. The real thought, analysis and processing comes later, and it is substantial due to the glorious, splendor and power of not only the being but the experience. It did feel as if the physical mind was trying to protect the survival of the physical vessel through the reaction of fear. The Light Being withdrew as the fear levels grew, as it also wanted to protect me.
The fear response was completely involuntary, despite me knowing the Light Being was not malevolent. I don't scare easily and yet I and every atom in my body was totally overcome by fear so extreme, that human words can't describe it. In this particular case, no magic word of "I am safe" was going to prevent this. The fear response was going to happen and was intricately planned as part of my lesson. We are not talking about a thought-form or lower tiered entity here, where such words and beliefs going in can prove helpful. We are talking about something rarely seen, that I was fortunate enough to experience, and that includes the fear that came with it.
Our vibrational level and frequency dictate our Spiritual placement in relation to God/Source/the Divine. This is why experiences vary so much from one individual to another. My energy levels, vibration and frequency are very high, I feel blessed, and it's not just my intuition and personal observations either as many other gifted people have made assessments and come to similar conclusions as well. This, among other reasons, is why I believe, I have seen what I have seen.
If one has not had this experience then there is no reference point to compare or critique. Kaya said, fear can eventually bring bliss. If members have been keeping track of my posts, that is exactly what has occurred with my many subsequent blissful energy and Divine experiences.
Existence contains many paradoxes. It's its nature. To be One. And at the same time to be infinite individualized points of consciousness (views) existing at different frequencies. If existence was only a ball of energy with only one perception, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It wants to experience itself in infinite different ways.
I still need to watch the video. I just wanted to share my archangel experience and say some things about fear in the astral. Learning the big toe method, wiggling the toe, was a life saver when I first started having sleep paralysis. I never understood what was happening and would instead fight it. But once I learned the big toe method, allowing me to break free from the paralysis- I tried to recreate sleep paralysis to have an OBE. I was excited to think I discovered the gateway to the unknown.
There have been many instances of fear, and whenever things got out of control- there was something or someone to help. A profound experience that I can think of sharing here is with archangel Raphael. I didn't know much about archangels(still don't) it's not something I ever studied-
I once had an OBE where I glided down the stairs and I saw another me sitting cross legged meditating in the living room.
*I think seeing that was a key symbol as a way to relay to me that whatever was happening was an observing/learning moment. Of course, I did not recognize this in the moment. I just thought, 'huh- there I am meditating' and kept gliding around.
Suddenly, I was back upstairs when a giant invisible and malevolent force grabbed me by my throat and pinned me up at the very top corner of the room. I could feel his giant hands wrapped around my throat choking me- I was panicking and flooded with fear.
**I realize now I was facing an aspect of my self. True aggression found in my subconscious.
I didn't know what to do at the time and pleaded for help.
That's when a flash of gold and white light took over- everything was wiped away by this light. ***Like a simulation being dismantled.
All the fear and panic had disappeared and I heard the name(very clearly) *RAPHAEL
I opened my eyes, fully awake, and saw lingering energetic residue... Gold, purple and green. The energy looked like a silhouette of a giant alien head tilting its face sideways and looking at me very curiously.
It slowly faded out as I sat up from my bed and tried to understand what just happened.
I looked up the name raphael plus the colors I saw and discovered this to be an archangel of healing. When I read that I immediately broke out in tears(sweet tears of relief/release) and I felt the most peaceful chills running along my spine spreading through out my being.
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Some things I want to impart is that I have never been harmed, even though some of the experiences felt very real and terrifying.
Learning what's happening to my body with sleep paralysis has taken away a lot of the fear and even inspired me to meet the challenge with the hopes that I would find something even more wonderful in the unknown.
I think the example I have shared above was its own simulation allowing me to face unpleasant aspects of my self. The giant invisible hand was my own aggression and malevolence. I believe I was being given an opportunity to recognize that, but I was overcome by fear and did not have the lucidity to understand what was happening in the moment.
I never forgot the experience and am learning a lot from it even today... :-)
Quote from: Frostytraveler on November 19, 2024, 21:32:31The vast majority of my Spiritual experiences (>99%) are beautiful, peaceful, loving and Divine. On very rare occasions there can be an Astral, OBE, RTZ or a Divine experience that can invoke fear. It is important to note that a fear inducing event is not always created by a scary looking or a malevolent being. One particular experience I had, which I do consider a Divine experience, was extremely fear inducing and still sits far apart from all the rest of my experiences as it was overwhelmingly detailed, vivid, and so spectacular that I had difficulty processing it. I know the being I experienced meant me no harm. I was simply caught off guard and not ready to process such an overwhelmingly dazzling experience that came from the darkness. I shared my detailed experience with Rosalie privately (and a select few on the Astral Pulse) . Rosalie subsequently had her own frightening experience at the Monroe Institute, which she has spoken about publicly via her YouTube videos.
After her visit to the MI, she reached out to me regarding one of her courses and to chat. We had a very enjoyable and lengthy video conference on this topic, as well as many other topics. She has now done a YouTube video on this very subject on how to cope with fear encountered during Out of Body Experiences and in the Astral. She has wonderful incite on how to deal with the fear response. I speak very highly of Rosalie, she is extremely knowledgeable, sincere, kind and very advanced in spiritual matters. She is also an expert in Yoga Nidra and has created extensive and varying content demonstrating this technique. This particular form meditation is to create a mind awake and body asleep state that is used to trigger OBEs. Rosalie's "How to deal with fear" video is linked below. The video has some interviews with the Monroe Institute high tiered staff and trainers, which are very interesting. Her channel is called RosalieYoga. I figured this would be very helpful to those that struggle with fear.
Thank you Frosty.
It's true, the unknown can be terrifying. Especially when you think about the *vast unknown. Just think how timid we've been made when something doesn't go our way with what we *do know. Or how scared we get if we find ourselves in the ocean and unable to see or feel the bottom.
I acknowledge that when we are approached by something magnificent and unfamiliar, it can be intimidating.
It's kind of like walking in the dark. If we know where the objects in the dark room are, we are generally OK. But if we walk in a new room, in complete darkness, we tread so much more cautiously and even carry a sense of dread.
I am excited to watch this video. I believe you're right. It is possible to experience a divine being and be made absolutely terrified.
I finished the video. She seems very lovely and patient.
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One step I would like to add is the power of prayer.
If you are overcome with fear, you can pray for help.
Every time I've reached out during an astral experience, completely overcome by dread, and prayed- the experience comes to an end. 100% success rate.
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The bubble thing is interesting, as a child I used to imagine a shield of energy around me- not necessarily a shield that deflects but a vacuuming energy that transmutes anything that tries to intermingle with it.
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I've also had to keep a light on at night and bust out the mantras, which would go with singing. I love the Om Shanti peace mantra...
Thanks!!
Fear must be handled alone, otherwise you will not fully concuer it.These toxic positivy(love,song bla bla.) things wont work on everyone, some people act with logic so .. basically you need to understand fundementals without putting fairy tails in it.
Quote from: tides2dust on November 23, 2024, 16:49:20Learning what's happening to my body with sleep paralysis has taken away a lot of the fear and even inspired me to meet the challenge with the hopes that I would find something even more wonderful in the unknown.
Countless people have experienced sleep paralysis, and some do regularly, and are often terrified by the experience. It is so prevalent in fact that it is classified as a medical condition often treated by drugs and/or psychiatric therapy.
From the perspective of AP/OBE it is very helpful to know what causes sleep paralysis, because once fear is overcome it may be converted from an object of fear to a valuable and reliable opportunity to experience and explore the "non-physical".
The primary purpose of sleep is so that the body can "recharge" and re-fresh energy for the daylight hours. As the sleep state deepens, there is a phenomena known as "REM" or "Rapid Eye Movement". This is the moment when the conjoined Etheric and Astral bodies move slightly out of vibratory phase with the physical body. During this time the body is recharged by Universal Energy through the bodies etheric network of energy meridians and chakras, and the reason why we awaken feeling recharged and refreshed.
At the end of the sleep cycle the Etheric/Astral bodies move back into vibratory synchronisation with the physical and conscious awakening occurs. In the case of sleep paralysis, full waking consciousness occurs while the Etheric/Astral bodies are still out of phase with the physical as in an OBE state, so the mind does not have full control of the physical body, which causes the physical feeling of paralysis. Once a person understands this it is very straightforward to convert the opportunity into a projection into the Etheric, aka "RTZ" and proceed with non-physical exploration by imagining, commanding etc to float upwards.
A closely related phenomena which also scares people is waking up with a jolt as if falling from a great height. This occurs when conscious awaking and re-synchronisation of Astral/Etheric bodies is very slightly out of phase, and reintegration is experienced as the falling sensation.
I have really enjoyed reading this topic and all the comments.
On the matter of overcoming fear - while different "methods" can certainly be very useful in combatting fear while experiencing the non-physical, the absolute approach to this is not a "method" at all, but rather a state of Being.
On Earth, as in all creation, human beings ARE Source, The All, God - aspects of or children of God if you prefer - with the same infinite power, participating in a human experience. The main reason that low non-physical entities can invoke fear is because they are well aware that most humans do not realise or express their own immense power, and behave accordingly through fear etc. It is this great weakness that these low entities leverage for their own nefarious purposes.
The absolute solution therefore to all situations and experiences, physical or non-physical is to Know, Be and Express our true Power and Divinity, and above all, Love. Entering the non-physical radiating our true essence of Divine Love, will not only protect against all lower entities, but rather, they would not even attempt to interfere in the first place, but rather go and seek a weaker person to terrorize. Fear is the only weapon these entities have.
Source, God, created humans even above the Angels, such is the power we have within us.
To quote the great Sufi Mystic:
"Always remember you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, smarter than you think and twice as beautiful as you'd ever imagined" ~Rumi
Two excellent posts Adrian. Thank you.
I have had metaphysical events sporadically for over 30 years now. When some very vivid OBEs occurred at the beginning, I did some research, read a book or two. I got too caught up in life and my career to stay focused on the experiences (which they deserved). During the bulk of this period, I would occasionally see a nasty in my bedroom. Likely the sleep paralysis state, though I do not suffer from this in a traditional form. When these types of experiences occurred I could pretty much wake up at will fortunately and end the experience.
When my steep spiritual awakening occurred my mindset changed and OBEs and Projections became much more consistent, as well as other phenomena (energy). Unconditional love was the key. This change of the "state of Being" that you mention Adrian was vitally important and a catalyst to my progress. As a result I rarely see anything scary or nasty in my travels. I do see an occasional scary image, but it's fixed and not an active participant in my experience. As stated, I just end things if I am not liking what I'm seeing.
Of course the incidence I discuss above doesn't fit into the common categories of fear experiences, so that stands on its own for reasons discussed on my previous posts.
Quote from: tides2dust on November 23, 2024, 19:23:38I finished the video. She seems very lovely and patient.
One step I would like to add is the power of prayer.
If you are overcome with fear, you can pray for help.
Every time I've reached out during an astral experience, completely overcome by dread, and prayed- the experience comes to an end. 100% success rate.
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The bubble thing is interesting, as a child I used to imagine a shield of energy around me- not necessarily a shield that deflects but a vacuuming energy that transmutes anything that tries to intermingle with it.
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I've also had to keep a light on at night and bust out the mantras, which would go with singing. I love the Om Shanti peace mantra...
Thanks!!
Hi Tides,
Yes, you read her correctly. Here is one of my favorite guided Yoga Nidra videos done and narrated by Rosalie. It is quite relaxing, especially if one has had a stressful day, and may even trigger a projection.
Quote from: 0xFF on November 24, 2024, 02:27:58Fear must be handled alone, otherwise you will not fully concuer it.These toxic positivy(love,song bla bla.) things wont work on everyone, some people act with logic so .. basically you need to understand fundementals without putting fairy tails in it.
Hi 0XFF,
Welcome to the AP! I understand what you're saying- that it helps to understand what's happening to your body. You might enjoy Adrians explanation- ??
When it comes to sleep paralysis- I had it more often in my 20's and rather spontaneous. I discovered the big toe method after much fright and unsuccessful fight.
It is a similar explanation to Adrians... That is... As the body shuts down, it enters into a 'rest' or 'standby mode' like a computer. Except instead of your mind slowing down with your body, your mind is alert and aware of the body transitioning into rest... Which is why there is creeping, tingling sensations and eventual paralysis.
This was a threshold for me- hypnagogia, OBE's which allowed me the opportunity to explore and discover unique insights.
But before I explored it further I had to learn how to break free from the undesirable paralysis. This was achieved by placing my awareness to my big toe(right or left, pick one!). I would tell my body, "I'm going to wiggle my big toe now" and proceed to do so. Sending the signals to my toe would gently wake my body up and release the paralysis instead of fighting, struggling and trying to scream or slam my head forward as I have tried so often.
I find it a rather unfortunate perspective to think of things like love and song as toxic or to divorce them from logic. There's plenty of science and logic to both love and song. Would you agree?
Vibration is a sacred science you have no doubt discovered perusing through these threads.
I do believe you mean to be helpful and I just wanted to take the time to welcome you and engage with your contribution.
Thank you again Frosty for creating a great topic, and to all who have replied- it seems there are definitely a number of ways to face fear. What's "best" is individual preference dependent on your unique life.
---I look back at my sleep paralysis episodes form my 20's and think it was meant to happen. It was during that time I had my initiation dreams from 2008 and much of it has served as a means of helping me discover and live in accordance with my deepest desire.
Even understanding the mechanics behind it doesn't explain the why. Like why then and not now? I personally believe there is a guiding(loving and intelligent) force working with us and in a manner most suited to our individuality.
I feel fortunate to have had the sleep paralysis, and everything else which has fueled my discoveries and propelled my desire to get closer with that very loving and intelligent force.
Kind regards~
Wish you many insights with your journey!
This video on Sleep Paralysis popped up in my YouTube feed this evening, interestingly enough. It's a highly detailed analysis of this phenomena by The Alchemist. Definitely worth a look.
Quote from: tides2dust on November 24, 2024, 08:00:55Hi 0XFF,
I find it a rather unfortunate perspective to think of things like love and song as toxic or to divorce them from logic. There's plenty of science and logic to both love and song. Would you agree?
Hi thanks for detailed reply
I do not mean like that sorry for misunderstanding, i am realistic guy like Rudolf Steiner.People need to go step by step and understand things like they are not convert them or force themself to convert them with unnecessary "love", for me this is worst thing human can do himselfs. My approach is accepting things like they are because in long term it will help you more instead of forcing yourself to love or anything else.Unlike many of you here i do not have too many experince or anything but i do understand, what is necessary, what is not and fear literally waste of time.Once people do understand that every single doubt about fear will be gone, atleast this is how i learn.
Quote from: 0xFF on November 25, 2024, 02:21:57Hi thanks for detailed reply
I do not mean like that sorry for misunderstanding, i am realistic guy like Rudolf Steiner.People need to go step by step and understand things like they are not convert them or force themself to convert them with unnecessary "love", for me this is worst thing human can do himselfs. My approach is accepting things like they are because in long term it will help you more instead of forcing yourself to love or anything else.Unlike many of you here i do not have too many experince or anything but i do understand, what is necessary, what is not and fear literally waste of time.Once people do understand that every single doubt about fear will be gone, atleast this is how i learn.
With respect, I am not sure you are really understanding what is being shared here by the members.
You can never make true progress from a logical, rational, ego oriented approach. We can only Become and Be One with and assimilate that which we wish to Be. Your phrase "unnecessary love" is an oxymoron. Nothing is more necessary than Love, after all, Love Is All That Is.
Quote from: Adrian on November 25, 2024, 04:46:45With respect, I am not sure you are really understanding what is being shared here by the members.
You can never make true progress from a logical, rational, ego oriented approach. We can only Become and Be One with and assimilate that which we wish to Be. Your phrase "unnecessary love" is an oxymoron. Nothing is more necessary than Love, after all, Love Is All That Is.
This isn't ego oriented approach, just to accept everything as they are.On the contrary i am trying to make choices without putting my ego or prejudice in actions.I am little bit struggle to tell everything i think coz it is not my first language.
Best regards
Quote from: 0xFF on November 25, 2024, 05:47:46This isn't ego oriented approach, just to accept everything as they are.On the contrary i am trying to make choices without putting my ego or prejudice in actions.I am little bit struggle to tell everything i think coz it is not my first language.
Best regards
Yes I think I see what you are saying, and I understand that English is not your first language.
It is true to say that everything is perfect in the moment, and to just go with the flow. But of course living in the moment and going with the flow also means not engaging the mind to make conscious decisions.
Quote from: 0xFF on November 25, 2024, 02:21:57Hi thanks for detailed reply
I do not mean like that sorry for misunderstanding, i am realistic guy like Rudolf Steiner.People need to go step by step and understand things like they are not convert them or force themself to convert them with unnecessary "love", for me this is worst thing human can do himselfs. My approach is accepting things like they are because in long term it will help you more instead of forcing yourself to love or anything else.Unlike many of you here i do not have too many experince or anything but i do understand, what is necessary, what is not and fear literally waste of time.Once people do understand that every single doubt about fear will be gone, atleast this is how i learn.
Good morning. :-) Thank you for the clarification. It means a lot, I understand how you feel. I do not like forcing anything on anyone. And I do not like being forced to limit my understanding when someone presents their fear based belief to me. You are not doing this, I share this because it helps me relate to what you are saying.
One of the biggest conundrums I have encountered with others is the beauty of their Christian Faith coupled by the limitations of their fear and understanding. I am sure this applies for most any religion and spiritual debate we may encounter.
I have to remind my self no one can force anything upon me I do not want, and to focus on the common principles than the stark differences. Fear is so prevalent in us all(our species), especially when it comes to the unknown.
In simple terms, some things take a leap of Faith and the discoveries are joyful and rewarding. No fairy tales here... Even though I do feel a sense of romanticism with my personal Journey.
The last thing I had originally included and will say now is... I am not behaving in the manner I am, a belief in Love for all, because I am forced to. It is the consequence of my natural development, as it genuinely makes me feel good to be rooted in a Loving vibration... Whether another person is receptive or not. And I am not always aware of this precious reality.
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply-
And I respect your point of view. Thank you for the sound advice.
Shifting to a higher state of mind requires one thing -UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! And this is the ONLY thing that will get you there. If you feel that you have to force to feel love, then you are not ready. And that's perfectly fine, we have different paths, but they all lead to that one thing eventually.
To understand unconditional love and to be able to feel it automatically towards everything and everyone, first you need to understand who you are and who and what is everything else/all that is, to understand the purpose of existence itself, and why certain things (negative in our perception) happen.
I've had instances in my life where people were affecting me by acting out of selfishness, fear, anger, etc. At first I would react defensively, judging their actions, but the moment I say to myself "Stop! What are these people showing/reflecting back to you. There must be something about myself, not them. They are teaching me something. They have agreed to act this way towards me to get my attention to something about myself that I need to work on. And on the other hand, I am also showing them something about themselves by how I act towards them. It's an exchange of lessons. So, when I understood the bigger picture and the reasons behind these interactions, I saw them with my mind's eye who they really are on a larger scale. We were sitting at a template level arranging all that to manifest and laughing. From a higher perspective this is just a play simulation to learn. We were great friends with so much love within each of us. I saw the TRUE them, and my love towards them bypassed the physical characters acts. Then in the physical, a few more negative interactions happened, but I did not react like before. I said ah, I see YOU my friend. I love you for showing me what I needed to understand about myself. I hope I delivered the same for you! Then I imagine hugging them. Shortly after, the whole issue resolved and they became like different people towards me. I shifted along with my reaction to something that a human character would perceive as negative. As long as I react to it with negativity, it will continue to manifest that way. The moment I start reacting to the negative with positivity and love (because I UNDERSTASND the purpose of it), it shifts to a true positive experience.
Exceptional post LightBeam, and so very true.
We should see and feel with The Heart, not just the eyes, ears, and intellect, Divine, Unconditional Love in everyone, all life, everything, and every situation, and Be Grateful. Forgiveness is never necessary, because, with Unconditional Love, there can be never anything or anyone to forgive.
Quote from: Adrian on November 25, 2024, 09:25:39Forgiveness is never necessary, because, with Unconditional Love, there can be never anything or anyone to forgive.
Exactly! I have come to realize that. Before I would do a forgiveness ritual for everyone, but in a long time I have not needed to do that, because instantaneously now I can see through everything and everyone bypassing the physical component, so this has even created a ripple effect through all my lives and there is nothing to forgive. It's all Love! It always has been!
Quote from: tides2dust on November 25, 2024, 08:50:19Good morning. :-) Thank you for the clarification. It means a lot, I understand how you feel. I do not like forcing anything on anyone. And I do not like being forced to limit my understanding when someone presents their fear based belief to me. You are not doing this, I share this because it helps me relate to what you are saying.
One of the biggest conundrums I have encountered with others is the beauty of their Christian Faith coupled by the limitations of their fear and understanding. I am sure this applies for most any religion and spiritual debate we may encounter.
I have to remind my self no one can force anything upon me I do not want, and to focus on the common principles than the stark differences. Fear is so prevalent in us all(our species), especially when it comes to the unknown.
In simple terms, some things take a leap of Faith and the discoveries are joyful and rewarding. No fairy tales here... Even though I do feel a sense of romanticism with my personal Journey.
The last thing I had originally included and will say now is... I am not behaving in the manner I am, a belief in Love for all, because I am forced to. It is the consequence of my natural development, as it genuinely makes me feel good to be rooted in a Loving vibration... Whether another person is receptive or not. And I am not always aware of this precious reality.
I really appreciate you taking the time to reply-
And I respect your point of view. Thank you for the sound advice.
You are lovely person :)
Quote from: LightBeam on November 25, 2024, 09:14:51Shifting to a higher state of mind requires one thing -UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! And this is the ONLY thing that will get you there. If you feel that you have to force to feel love, then you are not ready. And that's perfectly fine, we have different paths, but they all lead to that one thing eventually.
To understand unconditional love and to be able to feel it automatically towards everything and everyone, first you need to understand who you are and who and what is everything else/all that is, to understand the purpose of existence itself, and why certain things (negative in our perception) happen.
I've had instances in my life where people were affecting me by acting out of selfishness, fear, anger, etc. At first I would react defensively, judging their actions, but the moment I say to myself "Stop! What are these people showing/reflecting back to you. There must be something about myself, not them. They are teaching me something. They have agreed to act this way towards me to get my attention to something about myself that I need to work on. And on the other hand, I am also showing them something about themselves by how I act towards them. It's an exchange of lessons. So, when I understood the bigger picture and the reasons behind these interactions, I saw them with my mind's eye who they really are on a larger scale. We were sitting at a template level arranging all that to manifest and laughing. From a higher perspective this is just a play simulation to learn. We were great friends with so much love within each of us. I saw the TRUE them, and my love towards them bypassed the physical characters acts. Then in the physical, a few more negative interactions happened, but I did not react like before. I said ah, I see YOU my friend. I love you for showing me what I needed to understand about myself. I hope I delivered the same for you! Then I imagine hugging them. Shortly after, the whole issue resolved and they became like different people towards me. I shifted along with my reaction to something that a human character would perceive as negative. As long as I react to it with negativity, it will continue to manifest that way. The moment I start reacting to the negative with positivity and love (because I UNDERSTASND the purpose of it), it shifts to a true positive experience.
Some excellent posts here! I am really enjoying the discussion as this thread has touched on so many very important subjects.
After my very profound experience with the Light Being, I found it helpful to process things by thoroughly researching similar encounters. I then wrote a 4000 word analysis of my experience. I have shared it privately with only two people here on The Pulse. One of the links in that Paper is a link to Channeled Light Beings. The woman had an NDE experience, and this opened the channel. I normally don't listen to channeled audio or videos accounts all that often, as most don't align with me. This one does, and I encourage all to listen to it (even those that don't typically watch YouTube videos). I believe it is a very credible account and doesn't sound as prescripted or "off" as many channeled events do. No voice alteration or change in tone or tempo either, which sometimes (but not always) is a red flag for me.
The subjects cover just about everything covered in this thread: Fear in general, including fear experienced in the physical realm, the need for gratitude, unconditional love, and kindness. Plus many other topics such as things we need to do to raise our vibration from the small to the large (acts of daily kindness, listening to uplifting music etc....). Also warns of what lowers our vibration. This video helped me process my experience after doing countless hours of research on the encounter.
LightBeam, when the Light Being says at the (8:10 mark) "ask to see the individual Being in front of you, for the light they are not the suit they wear" had a profound effect on me, as it is something that has been part of my soul for as long as I can remember. If only people could look/see beyond the surface of the physical body and know the light within, people would be a lot kinder to each other. This touches on your analysis of the lessons we face from those we encounter (good and bad) and that Love and kindness in the end is the driving force that heals all and helps us ascend Spiritually. See beyond the apparent surface of a being, as the layers beneath are vast and deep and offer hidden meaning for both of you. Never lose focus of the Light in us all.
Excellent message, thanks for sharing this video. I definitely agree that most "channelled" messages of the sort that are rife on Youtube cannot be relied upon for many reasons. The only way we can know if they are genuine is by the message itself.
As the message, touched upon, beware of the agents and purveyors of fear - their main purpose is to prevent humanity from knowing who we truly ARE, Divine Beings of Love and Light experiencing a transition to a planet of Love and away from the fear based past millennia. The single simplest step that can be taken is to switch off, never watch, read or listen to the so called "mainstream media" and their "news". We create our own experience and there is no need to become mentally involved in whatever experience is being portrayed by these agents, which is invariably fear based, and never uplifting, and is ultimately a "simulation" anyway.
As I suggested in a post yesterday - We should see and feel with The Heart, not just the eyes, ears, and intellect, the Divine, Unconditional Love in everyone, all life, everything, and every situation, and be Grateful.