Parallel Universes

[Fresco]

I thought some of you might find this interesting:

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/player/national-geographic-channel/shows/naked-science/ngc-do-parallel-universes-exist.html

Torrent file: http://extratorrent.com/torrent/2462648/National.Geographic.Parallel.Universes.PDTV.XviD.MP3+.avi.html

[dotster]

Can't wait to watch! Thanks for the link.

[Fresco]

In it they say identical matter particles can exist in different locations at the same time.

If somebody could explain that to me, that be great.  Cause I dont have a clue what he's talking about

[dotster]

Absolutely, it's called entanglement in quantum physics. Here is a short little video clip on it that describes the basic concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8uZUzuRhk

If you have any more questions after watching feel free to ask and I will do my best to help you out.

[personalreality]

the idea is that all particles exist in a probability wave

until a particle becomes concrete and "observable", it technically has an infinite probability of existing in all places

i'm trying hard not to get all "what the bleep" here, because that movie was bunk (not bunk, just very selective about what it chose to share with its viewers).  point is, i don't want to say that there is any definite answer as to the role of human consciousness in the collapse of the wave field.

before the "material conspiracy", there were a lot of theories regarding the "aether", which have all been mashed into one idea that is associated with flimsy spiritualism and theosophy.  it is unfortunate because there were genuine scientific theories about the aether as well, but these days the word has a bad rap.  anyway, you might consider the probability wave to be something akin to the aether.  and perhaps even that AP/OBE takes place within such a medium from the perspective of the ultimate "creator" (i.e. a place where your mind can easily manipulate the experience reality).

entanglement makes use of the nonlocality principle, in that the two particles can communicate instantaneously across infinite space. 

[Fresco]

Absolutely, it's called entanglement in quantum physics. Here is a short little video clip on it that describes the basic concept.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh8uZUzuRhk

If you have any more questions after watching feel free to ask and I will do my best to help you out.

Ah okay, so everything is connected with everything else, and universe expanding is just kinda like a large elastic that keeps stretching but never breaks.

I think I'm getting the basics

[Simo]

Okay this makes my head hurt-I think that nothing  is endless(sure you can prove the opposite to me hehe)So if the universe has and end...then what's after the universe?there can't just be..nothingness?Is it possible that the universe is enclosed in a big sphere or something,something that we can't even imagine?damn it's so hard!

[pondini]

simo, here's a snippet from an e-mail i sent to a friend a while back. i still believe it to this day.

"Around the time when I was 10 years old, my older brother's friend presented me with the old question of 'where does the universe end, and what is at its edge? Is there a wall there? And if so, what is on the other side of that wall?' At that point in life I had never considered such concepts, and needless to say, it had my mind swimming for at least 3 days! The question eventually turned into a paradox for me. I couldn't see space continuing on without end, so, to solve that, I concluded that we could not have 'space' at all... but that didn't work either since 'I' was here contemplating the questions! In the end I concluded that the only thing resembling a solution is that everything is just a thought in Something's mind -the capitalization of that word constitutes a tip the hat to this 'Something'. "

[Simo]

Great answer pondidni!Just my thoughts exactly!But here's the next nasty question-If the universe is a thought in something's mind,where is that creature/being living?there must be space around it,it's own universe?Or maybe it's a creature made of energy,without physical body?Like God,or The Force ect?That seems to be good explanation.