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Originally posted by Chris:
The woman then said, "We should disconnect you from your body then so you can stay here with us!".



Ok, THAT would freak me out!  But it looks like you handled it nicely!


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Chris

Hello all.  I haven't been by in a while.  I tend to go a few months in between my visits here.  It's nice to see the new people having good experiences and growing in their awareness as I am.  Well, last night I had a very interesting experience.

Those of you who know me, know that I've been practicing self-induced OBE's for some time now.  However, of late I have really focussed on refining my "control" of the experience and in specific, control of focus.  Let's give it the analogy of the radio dial or tuner.  In the past my experience would be analogous to going directly from one end of the dial to the other with very little in between... or jumping large distances up the dial.  I have of late been refining my focus technique to allow me to move slowly up the dial so to speak and operate within each frequency or level with greater control and awareness.  Awareness really seems to be the key here.

 In short what I've begun doing is starting with each layer of my consciousness and slowly peeling it back like an onion simply  by becoming more aware of each layer more slowly.   I focus attention on my current physically oriented thoughts.  I become aware of them acutely as if a third person viewing or listening.  Then, instead of trying to "empty" the mind.  I remain relaxed mentally and slowly bring all the physical thought into a focus into ONE thought or focus... such as my subnavel or Dan Tien.  Once the physical level has been calmed down and focussed I start to notice thoughts, Ideas, words, voices, conversations,  that seem to pop out of no where, but somehow have a relationship with things I've been doing during the day etc.  These are not very vivid... thin sounding is how I would describe it.  It's a very thin layer.  This I equate with my subconscious mind.  Once I'm tuned into that level of consciousness I once again attempt to calm or quiet that layer by focussing it.  As it calms down I begin to become aware of another deeper level of consciousness that now becomes more vivid.  Instead of thin voices or words or thoughts I might hear a very vivid voice or see a vivid picture (though I'm not IN the picture), and these will come more randomly.  These also can easily be identified as things associated with my daily physical life.  During and after the experience I understand that this is still my subconscious (only more vivid), and in essence I am dreaming... although I am lucid.

Well, being that I am lucid I continue to move down one more layer by taking full control of the dream world and quieting it down.  When this happens I may begin seeing or hearing images, sounds, voices, conversations, etc that I cannot see have any association with my dialy life.  I will for example see an image of a bird I've never seen before sitting on the fence of a yard I've never seen before in a neighborhood I've never seen before.  The image will fade to be replaced by either sound or more images.  These start to seem external to me in some way.  As if I'm tapping into an external signal of information.   I do the same thing here.  I try to quiet the place down and focus it so I can move even deeper.

When that happens my lucid dream fades away and I frequently will have the sensation of leaving my body or traveling away from it quickly... a tunnel or sometimes just a feeling of detachment and quick movement away.

Now, the things I see and hear are really vivid... almost more real than this physical reality,  and none of what I see seems to be as associated with my daily life.  

At this deeper level I feel my consciousness expand in that I suddenly have knowledge of certain things... memories that I don't have while physically conscious.  At this point I feel it is easy to move among the even deeper levels of consciousness.  It was at this point that I had this particular interesting experience last night.

I felt rapid movement away in some direction.  I knew that I was going to where I wanted to go.  I had a purpose, although it was not something I remember making my purpose while physically conscious.  I went to visit a person who used to go to my church.  He was a mentally ill man who had been severly abused physically by his father when young.  this brought on his mental illness.  I reached my destination and found him there.  I was never particularly close to this man.  I just knew him from church and I was always polite to him.  I moved away and a couple years later friends told me he had died in his sleep.  Several more years have past and I haven't even thought of the man until this experience.  

When I arrived at where he was, he saw me and recognized me.  I asked him how he was doing and he said he was doing much better.  He showed me how when he arrived, the people here helped him with therapy to bring his mind back to a more normal state.  However, he was still not fully well yet.  I somehow KNEW that he was a young soul with little experience... very much like a child.

He then asked me if I was dead.  I said no, that I wasn't dead but that he was.  He told me that yes he knew but that they told him he killed himself.  I told him that he died in his sleep, but then somehow I KNEW and told him that he killed himself by strongly wanting to die or leave.  When he went to sleep that night he left his body and made the choice not to return.  The doctors simply diagnosed him as his heart having stopped in his sleep.  He seemed to understand and nodded.  Then he led me over to meet some of his friends he had.

I went over to the group and began participating with them in games and lessons and social interaction.  I encouraged them all and told them how well they were doing.  They all seemed very pleased.  However, then one of them (a woman) said, "We like you! You should stay here with us!".  I then said, "well, I am still connected to my physical body, so I can't stay here with you... I'm sorry.".  The woman then said, "We should disconnect you from your body then so you can stay here with us!".

For a moment a yellow alert went off in my mind.  I somehow KNEW that they could indeed disturb my connection with my body if they only knew how.  It's sort of like the feeling of a mentally challenged person holding a nife and saying they want to shave you.  You know they have good intentions but their lack of maturity and control might do some real damage to you.  

I immediately said back a little more strongly (not threatening but more commanding like a father), "I do not think that would be a good idea.  I do not think my guides would like the idea and allow you to do that.  I don't like the idea and I certainly won't allow you to.".  I then gave them a demonstration of the abilities that I had.  Somehow I knew that they did not possess enough mental skill to do what I was about to do.  First I raised up and flew around the room.  Then I created a large brick wall and punched my hand through it exploding it to pieces.  Then, I made a large flame shoot up and consume the ruble.  Then I grabbed a large steel bar ( i must have conjured it up) and bent it with my bare hands.

This seemed to adequately impress the group and they quieted down.  They now seemed a little reticent and maybe a tad frightened.  They certainly stopped suggesting that they disconnect me from my physical body.  At that point I felt the visit was over and made a brief farewell and "phased out" of that focus level and buzzed right back into my body and opened my eyes.  There had been no cesation of full lucid consciousness the whole time.  

Anyway, just thought I would share that with you all.  From some of the other recent posts I've read it seems that some of you are doing something similar as well.  I hope to read some more of your experiences and/or analysis of these subtle focus levels.  

Robert Monroe sets out a numbering scheme for these levels, as do a number of different eastern philosophies.  However, this is a digital way of thinking.  The levels they set out are more like sign posts.  The road itself however is analog and continuous.  I have noticed that the slower you go... that is, the slower I move down the road (instead of jumping down it) to the different levels of consciousness, the more information and memories of the experience I bring back with me.

I'd be interested to hear some more thoughts from Robert on this in view of his own extensive experience.

Peace,

Chris


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