Personal experience of energy centres and their bliss

[BarboraD]

Hello all,

I am new to the Astral Pulse forums (this is my first post) but not entirely new to the exploration of various states of focus, if I follow Frank's terminology. For a brief intro, I found "spirituality" in 2016 as an atheist neuroscientist. My inner journey started then I came across Monroe one year ago and was immediately taken by his approach and dived right in with immense passion into exploring OBEs. I was introduced to Frank's PDF collection this month. It has been powerfully illuminating and so here I am, wishing to share with you my very recent and quite the first-for-me (in such an extent) personal experience of the energy centres. I am posting from my diary with extra notes in brackets. Pardon my old-school use of the term chakra in the notes

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Wed 21.8.24
5:10-6:15am meditation: vibrations chakra bliss explosions

I am lying on my back as usual. I am placing my focal point of awareness on the top of my brain / top of my mind. In this morning time, this is quite hard for me. I am seeing some usual visuals and bright screens with people (this is my normal swirls-state / focus 2 experience).

I fall asleep and have a short dream that I am going to talk to my boss to ask about job recommendations because I want to leave science to do management or some other form of science. After a small dream segment, I wake up back into the meditative state. (This in-and-out of dreamstate is normal for me.)

Right away, I bring my focus to the top of my mind again as is the usual habit. This brings the sensation of vibrations to this area. Immediately with the first vibrations, I remember Frank's advice to breathe (breathe out slowly and deeply) to bring the vibrations down. This is all happening fast with a vague memory of the advice and semi-automatically and still somewhat sleepily.

So I imagine the focal point of awareness while having the vibrations to travel down along my spine to my root. I do feel some tingling, enlivening, crackling sensations as I move the focus along the spine. Encouraged by the sensation, I bring the focus back up to the top and down to the root (maybe I repeat this a few times?). Suddenly and all at once, the vibrations are in the whole body like my good old vibrations that I know so well! (These vibrations I normally experience as a full-body blissful, almost or fully orgasmic sensation. I have been trying to get an explanation for this state for some time now.)

Then I breathe and slowly bring my focus into each chakra along the spine and have an explosion of bliss there. In the root, it is the blissful/orgasmic feeling that I know so well. I reflect how the root chakra is close to the clitoris and maybe that is why it feels this way.

In the second chakra there is another explosion of bliss. In the yellow and green and blue too. I do each chakra repeatedly. I also gently arch my body (physical or "astral"?) for the orange, yellow and green. I can do green and orange at the same time. This is somehow a natural combination with the arching of my back for the green and the arching of my pelvis for the orange. I do this repeatedly, meaning green, yellow, orange, green+orange - on repeat. The sensation of bliss is almost eye-crossing, passing-out strong. Each explosion lasts maybe 2-3 seconds, I can only last this long either because they are so strong or maybe because that is the natural breath length. Is amazingly wonderfully blissful.

I can actually also see (see and feel at the same time) each explosion as if the energy was shooting upwards from each chakra in powerful columns of swirling white crackling energy. Yellow feels very powerful, full of core power. Green feels very large, wide and expanded. I don't recall blue because I didn't have time to explore it much before running out of power. Blue and orange felt as smaller columns, meaning narrower. The combination of green and orange is beyond describing, as if the two columns join and their combined energy/explosion engulfs me.

At the same time, it is as if I can see the ceiling and some crackling sparks there too. It feels as if I my eyes are open and I am seeing the structure of the ceiling up close. (Was my consciousness "out of the body" and up?).

At the same time, I am also a bit nervous about my work morning (which was reflected in the dream) and I feel these nerves too as running down there (reference to body down there?) through my body along the side of the spine but this sensation is comparably very faint and does not disturb my chakra play.

Then, I think to stop this exercise. Or perhaps I ran out of focus I try to continue the meditation by focusing on the top of the brain/mind again and seeing the usual swirls. But shortly after, I decide to take notes as to not risk falling asleep and not remembering this exquisite experience.

Of note, I'm referring to the energy centres as chakras by their colours but I didn't see colours.

I felt still rather energised while taking the notes right after the experience.

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That's it from the notes. This experience makes me feel convinced beyond doubt that the energy centres are quite "real" as before I had more of a theoretical information/knowledge I would be curious for anyone sharing their experiences. See you around!

[EscapeVelocity]

Welcome to the Pulse BarboraD,

Yes, the chakras or energy centers certainly appear to be real, we each experience them in varying degrees. I'm not qualified enough in this aspect to offer much more commentary, maybe some others will.

Again, welcome.

[BarboraD]

Thank you for your welcome, I do appreciate it <3 It's so lovely to connect with others about one's passions

Yes, indeed they're real and yet experienced differently. You know how it is. When something is known and believed on theoretical and faith levels but then, through personal experience, it becomes a known. I just love this process of discovery

[Frostytraveler]

I have experienced this energy body bliss many times. It is a very refined, warm, high frequency energy that produces a very euphoric state. I would not categorize it as being a harsh vibrational state, which many experience and find alarming at times. If this refined energy gets too strong though it is not quite as pleasant an experience. This happed to me the other night when I raised the energy to exceedingly high levels. I find the below quotation very much applicable (also see link):

 "These surges of energy are purifying your body of old conditioning and limitations. Your physical structure is awakening to its true nature as consciousness, light, and energy."

https://www.deepakchopra.com/articles/experiencing-energy-surges-in-the-body/

I also see Chi energy playing an important role in my energy experiences.

[BarboraD]

I have experienced this energy body bliss many times. It is a very refined, warm, high frequency energy that produces a very euphoric state. I would not categorize it as being a harsh vibrational state, which many experience and find alarming at times. If this refined energy gets too strong though it is not quite as pleasant an experience. This happed to me the other night when I raised the energy to exceedingly high levels. I find the below quotation very much applicable (also see link):

 "These surges of energy are purifying your body of old conditioning and limitations. Your physical structure is awakening to its true nature as consciousness, light, and energy."

https://www.deepakchopra.com/articles/experiencing-energy-surges-in-the-body/

I also see Chi energy playing an important role in these energy experiences.

Hello Frostytraveler,

Thank you for your response, it's much appreciated Please does your bliss come from specific energy work in it's own right or from preparing for AP/OBE? Would vibrations for various purposes feel different to you?

I find that for both AP and OBE as well as in the energy centre activation experience above, all those vibrations were similarly blissful at a first look. But I can now begin to perceive the differences. Seems to me that the root one is more sexual/orgasmic. And the yellow gives the more overwhelmingly powerful ones? I suppose time and multiple explorations will be our friend here

[Frostytraveler]

Hello BarboraD,

My energy signature/characteristics do feel very much like what you experience. However the origin of the energy, most of the time, is fairly non-distinct. However, if I had to pick a chakra that is a bit more dominant or perhaps the origin of the energy bursts I would say it's the heart chakra. Aside from my last extreme energy event where the root chakra was clearly involved and perhaps more dominant, generally they are all involved so I do not try and isolate the energy as I am engulfed in it. I can wake up from the blissful energy and it is encapsulating my entire body (head to toe). Feels like high frequency warm euphoric waves traveling up and down the body, certainly passing through all the chakras. At times the energy feels that it engulfs my entire body permeating from the inside core of my body to all outside surface areas simultaneously in a repeating sequence (hence no vertical wave location movement). This particular energy dispersement pattern actually resembles my avatar. Usually I do not pay much attention or analyze how it is impacting my chakra system when these energy events are occurring.

On one particular event I saw a lavender color in the shape of a sphere from my third eye as the energy waves were occurring. On my last energy event I woke up with my customary energy waves, but this time it was stronger. I elected to increase the energy as you mentioned in another thread by "breathing into" the waves, and joining with their momentum. Well, it increased so much so that the state wasn't exactly as blissful as typical. I thought it was triggering an OBE/AP but my physical symptoms became too much and too distracting. It felt as if I was given a mega dose of adrenaline along with an applied electrical current. I posted on this in another thread yesterday.

My energy usually occurs at night and I wake up to it. It usually occurs with vivid third eye visions, however during this extremely high energy event, I did not have any hypnagogic imagery. At times when the energy recurs on multiple days in a row, I can have a subtle version of this energy occur even while completely awake if I am relaxing. Daytime meditation can also bring up the energy. Lastly "motion imagery events" to trigger projections is also a major contributing factor as to calling upon this energy. I do the motion event at bedtime and fall asleep to it (thank you LightBeam). Then usually within 20 to 50 minutes later I wake up to this energy. The % ratio for the motion event triggering the energy activity is very high. The % ratio started between 50-75% of the time, but now is more commonly at the 75% mark.

As far as why some people have this form of energy while others have the turbulent version... Not so sure, but I have my speculative theories on this. I do belief our individual frequency and energy reserve pool plays a role in this. Do you do any Tai Chi or Qigong? Do you have any history of high tier martial arts training? This can play a role upon the energy amount, the energy signature and intensity available at a given time. Some individuals may be just have innately high amounts of energy and combined with energy producing techniques, things just escalate. In my case, I have innate levels of high Chi energy going in, plus ample Chinese martial arts training, meditation and Emei Qigong (Wuji Gong) practice. I added in some of Robert Bruce's energy work for kicks. Yeah, I realize this is a bit extreme, and is something I am toning down a bit due to the extreme nature of my last energy event.

My energy typically feels similar but can vary in intensity. As mentioned, it is usually widespread, but on occasion has a more dominant location or at least origin. The energy is mostly blissful in nature, however when calling upon Chi for martial arts strength or flow in sports activity I.e. "state of no mind" activity it is not blissful it is just a calming purity and a feeling of unity where over analysis and over thinking fade away. I hope that makes sense.

[BarboraD]

Hello BarboraD,

My energy signature/characteristics do feel very much like what you experience. However the origin of the energy, most of the time, is fairly non-distinct. However, if I had to pick a chakra that is a bit more dominant or perhaps the origin of the energy bursts I would say it's the heart chakra. Aside from my last extreme energy event where the root chakra was clearly involved and perhaps more dominant, generally they are all involved so I do not try and isolate the energy as I am engulfed in it. I can wake up from the blissful energy and it is encapsulating my entire body (head to toe). Feels like high frequency warm euphoric waves traveling up and down the body, certainly passing through all the chakras. At times the energy feels that it engulfs my entire body permeating from the inside core of my body to all outside surface areas simultaneously in a repeating sequence (hence no vertical wave location movement). This particular energy dispersement pattern actually resembles my avatar. Usually I do not pay much attention or analyze how it is impacting my chakra system when these energy events are occurring.

On one particular event I saw a lavender color in the shape of a sphere from my third eye as the energy waves were occurring. On my last energy event I woke up with my customary energy waves, but this time it was stronger. I elected to increase the energy as you mentioned in another thread by "breathing into" the waves, and joining with their momentum. Well, it increased so much so that the state wasn't exactly as blissful as typical. I thought it was triggering an OBE/AP but my physical symptoms became too much and too distracting. It felt as if I was given a mega dose of adrenaline along with an applied electrical current. I posted on this in another thread yesterday.

My energy usually occurs at night and I wake up to it. It usually occurs with vivid third eye visions, however during this extremely high energy event, I did not have any hypnagogic imagery. At times when the energy recurs on multiple days in a row, I can have a subtle version of this energy occur even while completely awake if I am relaxing. Daytime meditation can also bring up the energy. Lastly "motion imagery events" to trigger projections is also a major contributing factor as to calling upon this energy. I do the motion event at bedtime and fall asleep to it (thank you LightBeam). Then usually within 20 to 50 minutes later I wake up to this energy. The % ratio for the motion event triggering the energy activity is very high. The % ratio started between 50-75% of the time, but now is more commonly at the 75% mark.

As far as why some people have this form of energy while others have the turbulent version... Not so sure, but I have my speculative theories on this. I do belief our individual frequency and energy reserve pool plays a role in this. Do you do any Tai Chi or Qigong? Do you have any history of high tier martial arts training? This can play a role upon the energy amount, the energy signature and intensity available at a given time. Some individuals may be just have innately high amounts of energy and combined with energy producing techniques, things just escalate. In my case, I have innate levels of high Chi energy going in, plus ample Chinese martial arts training, meditation and Emei Qigong (Wuji Gong) practice. I added in some of Robert Bruce's energy work for kicks. Yeah, I realize this is a bit extreme, and is something I am toning down a bit due to the extreme nature of my last energy event.

My energy typically feels similar but can vary in intensity. As mentioned, it is usually widespread, but on occasion has a more dominant location or at least origin. The energy is mostly blissful in nature, however when calling upon Chi for martial arts strength or flow in sports activity I.e. "state of no mind" activity it is not blissful it is just a calming purity and a feeling of unity where over analysis and over thinking fade away. I hope that makes sense.

Dear Frostytraveler,

Thank you for you wonderfully rich informative response. I took some time to digest the information. It seems indeed that we share some characteristics.

As for your mention of the heart chakra origin or dominance for the otherwise non-distinct blissful energy, I realise that I do feel the origin at times as coming from my back and enveloping me. I realise now that this could be the back opening (as opposed to the chest one) of the heart chakra vortex... Interesting thought Thank you. Maybe I could say the general start for me would be the root and/or the heart. Except one of the last times it clearly was the crown and solar combination. I'm beginning to think also that the origin of them isn't so important. Maybe the energy itself that results from them is the energy to use for the metaphysical experiences no matter the source?

Likewise, I also generally wake up to this energy already engulfing my body but it can come in daytime meditation too. And it feels like various waves of energy crossing my body. The waves can go in different patterns. Once, I observed sagiatal crossectional pattern which was curious/unusual to me. Curiously, the energy can be triggered also by various thought patterns! Did you experience that too?

As for the lavender colour, my experience is similar. I have seen purplish oval shape in the centre of the field of view (Robert Bruce talks about a Strobe Effect, could this be related?). Or (in the preparatory phases) various purple swirls or fog (can be blueish too). Purple is generally often present in my (more notable) AP visions, and connected to what I might perceive as my guides.

Are the "motion imagery events" your recent breakthrough? For me, my recent (last month's?) breakthrough was putting my focal point of awareness on the very tip of the crown before sleep (around the 2-4-6am times), then falling asleep and waking up to these blissful vibrations. This has increased the frequency of OBE/AP events dramatically for me.

Do you think that the mega dose of adrenaline might have been your fear response to the occuring events because they were new and unusual?

As for martial arts and energy training, I have a total of zero. In my teens/twenties, I played volleyball, did a reiki initiation. Actually, I theorised that I had early success with Monroe-style (first book) OBE-induction because I could make my body "dead"/asleep so easily because I'm generally very passive/solid/slow in my body But I have always had vivid dreams so maybe the energy has been concentrated into those aspects

As to the "state of no mind" you mention, this has become more easily accessible to me since 2016, when I had a 10-day oneness experience (ego dissolution, merging with all), and deepened a little since last month (shortly before the "crown focus" breakthrough). I find that the meditation practice helps to build up (verrry slowly ) the ability to work with the mind/focus as needed.

Thank you again for this communication.

[Frostytraveler]

Very interesting how similar our experiences are! As Robert Bruce and Dolores Cannon mentioned energy and it's production/movement is the basis of all spiritual development.

Yes, energy source analysis isn't as important to me as the energy development itself, especially after we have reached a sort of "energy critical mass". This is when I typically gain awareness from sleep. By the time I am aware enough in a waking state (with eyes closed) the energy has engulfed me hitting all primary chakras in the strobe effect state as Robert Bruce elaborates on. The origin of the energy is likely the root (the main storage site of energy), then spills over into the other primary chakras, but I have missed the transition while asleep. The important thing is to have ample energy reserve in the root, and to be able to call upon it and move it when needed. Amazing how this occurs when sleeping all on it's own! 

However, in the daytime when I have experienced a subtle version of this energy it appears to arise throughout my entire body, all at once, with a bit more focus in the torso/heart region. But... this is different than waking up with very high energy surging through my body which has gone critical mass, such as my recent experience with the extreme energy. I agree, with me the energy developed is a key to experiencing the soon to follow metaphysical events. I have also read that strobing the chakras with extreme stimulation can lead to steep spiritual development as well as a sudden psychic development.

Yes, I have had the energy start during daytime meditation, or even after a very brief nap...even dozing off for a few seconds or a minute can trigger it.
When I see lavender or purple, I associate that with very strong stimulation of the crown and third eye chakra. The third eye stimulation creating the hypnagogic visuals or as I like to call it, astral vision. I have seen the purple/lavender sphere or circle as well as a brilliant white circle/sphere that repeatedly fold inward onto itself.

I have always tried various motion imagery events activities (being on a swing, trampoline, elevator, spinning etc...) in the daytime and had any luck. Then I had a repeated very lucid projection 6 or 7 times with full awareness with a particular sport I was very involved with for most of my life. The view of the activity was in the first person point of view every time.  Clearly this was a message and a form of synchronicity from beyond. With a collaborative effort between me and a deeply knowledgeable moderator (LB) here, we figured out the message and it was a spiritual one, notably that that was a key to my continued spiritual development and to implement it with my practices. I was also told to do this every night for 10 to 15 minutes and to fall asleep to it. I was told that results might take up to 2 or 3 weeks. Well, the first night I did this, I awoke to strong energy and hypnagogic visions within 10 or 15 minutes from falling asleep. It now occurs with remarkable consistency. The other night it happened 3x in a row when I did the visuals every time I woke up. By the third time I could create the energy while in a completely waking state with just thinking about the "thought pattern" of the energy as you mentioned.

Now what to do with this energy? I feel like my astral body is loose in this state. Which I have felt before. Ie. When breathing up from my feet the white energy tingles my left leg, and if doing this in a deep meditation I feel my non-physical left leg kicking/moving up and down perhaps 4" above and below the physical leg. This was unnerving at first.

During the extreme energy event, the adrenaline I felt was 100% not from fear. 

Once this energy forms with me, if low I will raise it. If strong I leave it be. If there is visual hypnagogic imagery I passively observe. If scenery I try to slowly enter without too much focus. With the energy I try to shift my consciousness elsewhere, if that doesn't work, I spin on an access. Most of my projections and OBEs are indirect and spontaneous, but I feel I am getting very close to this energy triggering a direct method exit.

Please describe how you do the final exit once you are experiencing high amounts of systemic energy. Thanks...

[BarboraD]

Dear Frostytraveler,

Indeed, keep seeing many similarities.
Yes, interestingly, some sources even say we incarnate here to learn how to work with energy.

Yes, "energy critical mass" and then I'm able to have a metaphysical experiences. Although, when I started the experience wouldn't evolve from the vibrations and it would stay at that point only. But these days, vibrations are a sure sign something is coming

I cannot conclude anything about energy storages (as per Robert Bruce) as I have not experience of them yet.

How do you make sure you have ample energy reserve in your root?
I used to think it helped me be loving or joyous to project. I'd get this from interactions with people and/or being in nature. Once, it was thanks to a happy song I loved playing in my mind at the start of the meditation.

Also, I cannot claim yet to feel differences between nighttime and daytime meditations. However, daytime (afternoon) naps (and mornings) are especially productive for me.

How would you go about strobing chakras? I haven't come accross such information.

Lavender, yes, I agree with your interpretation. As you, I also experience various bright lights. Either they zoom on my right side next to me as if accompanying me or the light appears on the top of my field of view and descends down on and around me and I emerge on its top into the next stage/void/vision/whatever I also experience various light or purple swirls and fog.

Would you like to reveal more about your sport? Does it mean you do the practice/sport every night AND fall asleep to imagining it?

I have had most luck with imagining sliding down on a slide. The problem for me with these is that they seem to bring focus back to my body. How do you avoid that?

I also meditate each time I wake up at night. I take it as practice or habit formation.

For the "thought pattern" of energy, do you mean the memory of it?
I meant it a bit differently I think: the "thought pattern" that would bring the vibrations for me at times would be an actual thought, e.g. I'd think "I love my son" and this would trigger the vibrations.

I also feel like my astral body is loose in this state! I often notice that my astral body is in a different position than my physical body. Usually it's a small difference but once the astral was on my belly and the physical on my back. It had been confusing me for a long time until I confirmed that I'm experiencing two bodies!

"Once this energy forms with me, if low I will raise it. If strong I leave it be. If there is visual hypnagogic imagery I passively observe. If scenery I try to slowly enter without too much focus."
Same for me. And sometimes it feels somehow more natural to go for OBE and in that case I'd roll out. This has been my go to. Other times, when I'm less aware, I'd just sit up and go. Sometimes, I'd reach out for an imaginary object. Sometimes I just realise I'm in a different position than I should be and that this means I'm already out of my physical body. Usually, I find myself in the RTZ and go for a window, upon which I enter same (our street) or different location (foreign land). Or I'd get out of body and pronounce "higher self" and I'd zoom upwards (into astral lands). I hope this is helpful. Uff, such long posts! Thank you for your time and energy

[Frostytraveler]

Ok, I need to clarify re the storage of energy. In martial arts and in Qiqong the development and storage of energy takes place on the lower Dantian. It is not just in the root chakra it encompasses the sacral as well (two fingers down from the bellybutton all the way down to the perineum. I think we are more perceptive of the root chakra area but the entire lower Dantian is part of this.

How do we develop the storage of energy and the ability to call upon it... everything you mention can play a role, loving happy thoughts, doing things you love, walking in nature etc... I like to call it high vibrational living (thoughts, actions and how we treat others). This all matters. To take things up many notches, this is where the martial arts and Qigong play a roll. Slow circular motions, and other forms while having an empty mindset all matters. In my particular Qigong, we are suppose to imagine a purple mist rising up from the ground inside and outside of our body, rising up to the lower Dantian area. Another is the light coming down from the top of the universe through the crown chakra then down through all the chakras to the lower Dantian. You can see how this area is of extreme importance. In the martial arts we also practiced Dantian breathing.

In the short term I would like to keep the sport a bit private. I will pm you. I have had the issue of not only a physical distraction from the physical sport's imagery, but a sudden awful headache. I noticed this occurred when my eyes and perhaps very slight physical body participation in the imagery. To prevent this I imagine doing the sport in the state of no mind, eyes stay focused forward and not darting around. It is critical that I don't overthink it and just go with the flow naturally. I am not recreating the sport, I am there! Something special is going on, as the motion activity puts me in a fairly quick and deep trance state in a matter of minutes. If I am not careful I will be asleep within 5 minutes, then awake in 10-20 minutes more. As a control, I intermittently alternated between nights with the sports imagery and nights of just going to bed. Since the breakthrough I can conclude this: no activity is occurring on nights with no sports imagery. On nights with sports imagery it is nearly 90-95% of the time triggering metaphysical activity. This is clearly not coincidence.

As far as thought patterns go, I have had a particular memory or thought trigger energy, and on occasion the thought of the energy alone can start it. Usually that occurs when I do this in close proximity to multiple energy events.

Thank you for your thought on getting exiting once the energy starts.

Here is a nice link on the Lower Dantian

https://www.healthline.com/health/dantian#locations