Projecting to other countries

[Kodemaster]

Have you projected to a country 1000s of miles away, to which you have never been? I did twice. Once I projected to Switzerland somewhere along the Rhine River (if I got that right) and flew past ships carrying shipping containers to their destinations. More recently, I projected to Cardiff in Wales. I clearly remember the big red building, and a nearby market.

[LightBeam]

One time I requested to go to Paris, and I was teleported under the Eiffel Tower. It was fun. I walked the streets, flew to the top of the Tower, saw all the lights of the city at night.

Another time a while ago, I requested to go to Toronto, as I had a crush on a colleague of mine from there and I wanted to see him lol. I ended up at the Niagara falls. I didn't find him but the falls were beautiful. These experiences were very vivid. The Paris lights were so bright. The water of the falls was sparkling.

[Kodemaster]

One time I requested to go to Paris, and I was teleported under the Eiffel Tower. It was fun. I walked the streets, flew to the top of the Tower, saw all the lights of the city at night.

Another time a while ago, I requested to go to Toronto, as I had a crush on a colleague of mine from there and I wanted to see him lol. I ended up at the Niagara falls. I didn't find him but the falls were beautiful. These experiences were very vivid. The Paris lights were so bright. The water of the falls was sparkling.

I am so happy for you and your fun trips out-of-body! I might have to try some commands again. They worked pretty well when I was developing my time-travel skills.

[Xanth]

They worked pretty well when I was developing my time-travel skills.

I know this was a few month ago, but damn... you've piqued my interest!!  Time-travel skills?!   

[Kodemaster]

This goes awhile back. From what I remember, I would use a command as I was entering the tunnel. Usually I went back 300 or 400 years as that was the most that would work. I would often end up alone in a field of brown grass, few to no animals around. One time I got such good control of my surroundings I was able to lay in the grass.

[Xanth]

This goes awhile back. From what I remember, I would use a command as I was entering the tunnel. Usually I went back 300 or 400 years as that was the most that would work. I would often end up alone in a field of brown grass, few to no animals around. One time I got such good control of my surroundings I was able to lay in the grass.

That's pretty cool. 

Should try to develop that ability again if you haven't lately. 

[Kodemaster]

Thank you, maybe I will. I need to get better at AP/OBE again.

[Xanth]

Thank you, maybe I will. I need to get better at AP/OBE again.

You and me both!  I stopped actively practicing a good ten years ago... deciding to get back into it.
Right now I'm suffering through some restless leg syndrome crap which is making it VERY HARD to sit still or even fall asleep.  Working through it though!  I'm giving up coffee for a while to see if that's the trigger - soooooooo sleeepy now.  haha

I've actually decided to go the opposite route and work on "lucid dreams" - which I identify as being actual projections.  I'm going to use this to prove it actually.  I've been reading Stephen LaBerge's Lucid Dreaming book.  Loving it so far. 

[omcasey]

You and me both!  I stopped actively practicing a good ten years ago... deciding to get back into it.
Right now I'm suffering through some restless leg syndrome crap which is making it VERY HARD to sit still or even fall asleep.  Working through it though!  I'm giving up coffee for a while to see if that's the trigger - soooooooo sleeepy now.  haha

Xanth,

Since the onset of my OBEs I have had an anomaly at the base of my spine that causes the legs to shake. It used to be a lot worse, of course, ( it has been near 15 years ), and although generally very slight now it has never fully gone away. Years back I made a discovery that actually works for this. I will quote myself:

"The something is SALT, a good quality mineral salt placed externally both at the base of the head and/or base of the spine. Measure about a half cup of pink salt, or maybe more and pour it into a snack baggie. I then place this into a cotton/canvas type sack and tuck it into the waist of my pant there at/near the sacrum. It stays in place all night. *Another can be placed at the base of the head when reclined on a pillow. ( but I have never needed it ).

When I first heard ( from the Galactic Historian ) to do this I was not holding out any hope of it actually working. I just thought let's try it, let's see what this is. I have been experiencing this stray energy thing down my legs for so long. To my astonishment, IT WORKED. It has been working since the very day I first tried it, and, I will tell you squarely, in all these years nothing has been able to help me with this.

For years I have been confounded as to how exactly the salt pack work. It just does, it works and works and works. Every time. Even if I don't get the salt pack in place until after the wacko energy begins at the sacrum. I place the pack there and WITHIN A MINUTE the energy returns completely to right. Just recently it hit me. When I was being directed to some information on grounding.

"The salt of the Earth." - yes it must be that the salt is acting as a ground.

Grounding the energy so it stops going haywire."


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Being so grateful for the information coming my way, I like to pass it on to anyone I think it might also help. If you try it, ( it is so simple ), let me know if it works for you. I will note here that the salt, being a crystal, periodically needs to be cleared to continue working. I place my salt packs onto selenite bricks, quite inexpensive to acquire, this way they just always stay cleared.

[Xanth]

My wife might think I'm crazy if I did that.  Haha

For me, I'm certain it's a neurological thing.  I've always experienced it, it's just gotten much worse and I feel it's related to caffeine.

If I can't figure it out I'll definitely try the salt though! 👍

[omcasey]

I might have thought that myself, too, Xanth, that it was neurological. I highly recommend not going there, I am sure you have salt and a snack baggie in your house. My mind was blown when this worked, but it somehow miraculously does. My situation was so bad/ongoing that I was literally ready to try anything. I can't imagine not having tried this. It would have been a supreme miss to be sure. I have do doubt the coffee isn't helping, and I am all but certain that like with tobacco we lace coffee beans these days. Aside from a single year in my life when I was working round the clock for a period of time, I've never touched the stuff. This is saying a lot as I've engaged in fairly everything else that is 'addictive', lol. Coffee has just been one of those things I could never do. It was incredibly hard to start, incredibly hard to keep at, and incredibly painful to stop. This is how I think I know what I do about the lacing. Anyway, I hope you will try the salt packs sooner than later. The relief this supplies is nothing short of miraculous.

[Lumaza]

You and me both!  I stopped actively practicing a good ten years ago... deciding to get back into it.
Right now I'm suffering through some restless leg syndrome crap which is making it VERY HARD to sit still or even fall asleep.  Working through it though!  I'm giving up coffee for a while to see if that's the trigger - soooooooo sleeepy now.  haha

That used to happen with me too. My restless leg would drive Mary Jo nuts. The way I cured it, or what I should say I did was learn to focus and hold my focus on my big toe and only my big toe. It was really weird, everything else would stop! Why? I have no idea. I learned a long time ago that if "it ain't broken, don't fix it, so, I didn't change it at all. Pardon the slang there, lol! 

I've actually decided to go the opposite route and work on "lucid dreams" - which I identify as being actual projections.  I'm going to use this to prove it actually.  I've been reading Stephen LaBerge's Lucid Dreaming book.  Loving it so far. 

I have enjoyed Stephen's work for a while now. Most of the info I got from him came via his Youtube video seminars and talk show interviews. Another really interesting gentleman is Stephan Schwartz. His talks on consciousness and non-physical exploration are great.   

[Xanth]

You and me both!  I stopped actively practicing a good ten years ago... deciding to get back into it.
Right now I'm suffering through some restless leg syndrome crap which is making it VERY HARD to sit still or even fall asleep.  Working through it though!  I'm giving up coffee for a while to see if that's the trigger - soooooooo sleeepy now.  haha

I've actually decided to go the opposite route and work on "lucid dreams" - which I identify as being actual projections.  I'm going to use this to prove it actually.  I've been reading Stephen LaBerge's Lucid Dreaming book.  Loving it so far. 

I wanted to give a small update on my progress.

There isn't much!!  HAHA

I find I don't really have the drive or motivation to do this anymore.  One month has yielded two very short lucid/astral awareness experiences.  I've been mostly, trying Stephen LaBerge's MILD technique mixed with reality state checks.

The first was about 20 seconds in length.  My state check was looking at my hands, which always works for me.  I immediately had a strong desire to run outside and fly though, which I had to stop myself from doing.  I then went to stabilize and strengthen the connection, so I began to feel around trying to bring my awareness more there.  There was a fish tank which I dunked my hands into, and it felt so f'ing real.  I then started to move out of the room and I woke up.  Bleh.

The second bout of lucidity (it WAS a lucid awareness for sure) only lasted about 5 seconds.  I did a state check looking at my hands, I remember being amazed that what I was experiencing was a dream because it really didn't seem it.  If my hands hadn't melted in front of my eyes, I wouldn't have believed it. 

But yeah, that's it.  I'm half-assedly trying to initiate these things, but without the motivation... it's certainly not easy.

I'll tell ya that THC really doesn't help the mix.  HAHA

[LightBeam]

I'm half-assedly trying to initiate these things, but without the motivation... it's certainly not easy.

I'll tell ya that THC really doesn't help the mix.  HAHA

Yes THC suppresses dreaming. It has something to do with altering brain function, at least that's what research shows, but I have also  heard from several people who confirm they rarely dream.

On the other hand, if you feel content with the knowledge you have already acquired you don't need to push harder.

[Xanth]

Yes THC suppresses dreaming. It has something to do with altering brain function, at least that's what research shows, but I have also  heard from several people who confirm they rarely dream.

On the other hand, if you feel content with the knowledge you have already acquired you don't need to push harder.

That's the strange part, I have no problem dreaming when high.  Odd.  I have epic dreams most nights, the issue is taking the time upon waking to remember everything.  When I'm not high, I take the time to wake up slowly usually.  When I'm high, I just wake up and immediately forget everything.  haha

I had a funny experience the other night... I tried falling asleep lying on my back, which I never do.  People seem to report a lot of strange occurrences happening when they do that.

Well, for me... mine was that when I woke up that night, I found myself kneeling down beside my side of the bed.  Strange.  haha

[Tak]

Have you projected to a country 1000s of miles away, to which you have never been? I did twice. Once I projected to Switzerland somewhere along the Rhine River (if I got that right) and flew past ships carrying shipping containers to their destinations. More recently, I projected to Cardiff in Wales. I clearly remember the big red building, and a nearby market.

How great it must be to project to other countries. I really miss the little town on the beach where I lived for two years, my second home, in the neighboring country. What has happened to me is that I had dreamed about this place before even knowing its existence and also in that dream it was told me that I was going to live there. I arrived at the town by chance for a job offer and it was the same place of my dream, I saw it exactly as it is. that's when I understood everything. The most extraordinary, the same thing happened to other people in the town. They dreamed of it, that they would live there and it came true.

But yeah, that's it.  I'm half-assedly trying to initiate these things, but without the motivation... it's certainly not easy.

I think I understand what you're feeling. 10 years ago in my lucid dreams after creating a world as perfect as this, I felt that how far I could go? I felt like I had already done it all (in my limited view of things at that time) I had a beautiful palace surrounded by gardens, I did the most crazy parties, vices, etc, etc. I did what I wanted and when I wanted. Unlike what anyone might think, all of that left me bored, empty, and disinterested. But well, one needs to hit the face against the wall alone after all. And regarding the APs it was worse, I visited shadow and low places for not controlling my emotions, which left me with an even more bitter taste, also stucked in the Void, a real mess lol and I threw in the towel because I got tired. 

But in all these years, I and my perspective of things has changed a lot, I try to take this practice in order to explore those hidden areas of consciousness, those aspects of being, that are not possible to experience here by our conditioning, going towards "unexplored" territories from this human perspective, but which are still there, that bigger part of us, which is veiled by our physical senses and social indoctrination. See the full spectrum, or at least as far as I'm able to process. It's bold and scary, but worth a try, even if it takes 30 years. Just knowing that we experience at this moment, only a small portion of what we truly are, was enough to unleash in me a very deep desire to search. 

Go beyond the limits! Go beyond the human, take creativity to the innermost, to a purely abstract plane...  let's see what happens. Experience new sensations, some people say they see new colors or hear new sounds, I have never experienced that, but I did synesthesia and I have felt unknown and extraordinary emotions many times, that have no translation to human words, it's just exorbitant and otherworldly.

CURIOSITY can be the best fuel, there are no limits, the possibilities are immense, and that can only fill me with such great joy that I feel like I am going to explode!

I find I don't really have the drive or motivation to do this anymore.  One month has yielded two very short lucid/astral awareness experiences.  I've been mostly, trying Stephen LaBerge's MILD technique mixed with reality state checks.

I thought that once one reached a certain level in the technique, one could stop and then pick up from the same place at any time, but no. At this last time it also happened to me, maybe it took me about 20 times, but I adjusted it, the experiences are increasingly longer and more lasting, but it takes many attempts, you have to be patient. I think this stage may be a little difficult to accept for those of us who once did this so well, but it is part of the process, you will adjust soon!

I'll tell ya that THC really doesn't help the mix.  HAHA

Regarding THC, I haven't used it in some years, in my case it always gave me the most vivid dreams and sometimes strong hypnagogic images, but I'd rather not to take shortcuts of any kind this time. Perhaps it would be best to limit the use a little if you feel it has a bad impact on your practice, at least in those days.

I don't know if this comment helps, but I felt identified and that's why I share my thoughts 😊

A hug and I hope you find the motivation very soon to explore the wonders of consciousness again. There is still much to discover.

[Lumaza]

How great it must be to project to other countries. I really miss the little town on the beach where I lived for two years, my second home, in the neighboring country. What has happened to me is that I had dreamed about this place before even knowing its existence and also in that dream it was told me that I was going to live there. I arrived at the town by chance for a job offer and it was the same place of my dream, I saw it exactly as it is. that's when I understood everything. The most extraordinary, the same thing happened to other people in the town. They dreamed of it, that they would live there and it came true.

That sounds like a very "special" area, that was created for a "purpose". All of those unique people that lived there shared a "special gift". Possibly it was a "training ground" of sorts! 
 

I think I understand what you're feeling. 10 years ago in my lucid dreams after creating a world as perfect as this, I felt that how far I could go? I felt like I had already done it all (in my limited view of things at that time) I had a beautiful palace surrounded by gardens, I did the most crazy parties, vices, etc, etc. I did what I wanted and when I wanted. Unlike what anyone might think, all of that left me bored, empty, and disinterested. But well, one needs to hit the face against the wall alone after all. And regarding the APs it was worse, I visited shadow and low places for not controlling my emotions, which left me with an even more bitter taste, also stucked in the Void, a real mess lol and I threw in the towel because I got tired.

That "happy Place" is still there. You just need to a way to find the path there again.

 This is the second time I have read a post of yours speaking about visiting the low and shadow places. If I had not explored those areas further myself, I would not have been introduced to the phenomenon of "Retrievals". That is where the Retrievals are. You are entering someone else's version of "hell" and darkness.

But in all these years, I and my perspective of things has changed a lot, I try to take this practice in order to explore those hidden areas of consciousness, those aspects of being, that are not possible to experience here by our conditioning, going towards "unexplored" territories from this human perspective, but which are still there, that bigger part of us, which is veiled by our physical senses and social indoctrination. See the full spectrum, or at least as far as I'm able to process. It's bold and scary, but worth a try, even if it takes 30 years. Just knowing that we experience at this moment, only a small portion of what we truly are, was enough to unleash in me a very deep desire to search. 

Go beyond the limits! Go beyond the human, take creativity to the innermost, to a purely abstract plane...  let's see what happens. Experience new sensations, some people say they see new colors or hear new sounds, I have never experienced that, but I did synesthesia and I have felt unknown and extraordinary emotions many times, that have no translation to human words, it's just exorbitant and otherworldly.

CURIOSITY can be the best fuel, there are no limits, the possibilities are immense, and that can only fill me with such great joy that I feel like I am going to explode!

A change in your mindset really does change your reality. It leaves you not only open to more, but also craving more.  You just need to learn to lose your constant need to control everything there and instead "open yourself up" to it. Trust will lead you further than you could have ever imagined.

I thought that once one reached a certain level in the technique, one could stop and then pick up from the same place at any time, but no. At this last time it also happened to me, maybe it took me about 20 times, but I adjusted it, the experiences are increasingly longer and more lasting, but it takes many attempts, you have to be patient. I think this stage may be a little difficult to accept for those of us who once did this so well, but it is part of the process, you will adjust soon!

Nope. You are constantly challenged to "re-invent the wheel". I think this is why so many of the past members here disappeared. They basically hit the wall, that so many of us do and after a while, lost interest. Also, "life" is always happening and that will completely consume you, that is if you allow it to. It could also be that they found what they were looking for and then were done with it. Only they know why!

 Just like this "school" here in the physical, the NPRs are a school as well. It seems like there are "graduations" of sorts too. A new "level" or grade means new challenges and harder lessons.

 I have a number of "go to" techniques. Once in a while, I go through my old Journals just to see what I used back then. Sometimes going back to what got you there in the first place is the answer. This practice always keeps you on your toes.

 Your word above "CURIOSITY" is very important. You need to allow your curiosity to steer the way, to pull you deeper in. I always say you need to first become an "observer" with a very strong "air of curiosity", until it is time to "react"! That kind of thinking works here in the physical, but is rarely used. Emotions and our ego control us here. That causes people to "act" first, then think about their actions after the fact.

[Xanth]

A hug and I hope you find the motivation very soon to explore the wonders of consciousness again. There is still much to discover.

Thank you, Tak, for the kind words of encouragement!  I'm certainly not going to stop, but progress is going to be made slowly, no doubt.  haha

Yeah, apparently, this stuff ISN'T like riding a bike. 

[Tak]

Nope. You are constantly challenged to "re-invent the wheel". I think this is why so many of the past members here disappeared. They basically hit the wall, that so many of us do and after a while, lost interest. Also, "life" is always happening and that will completely consume you, that is if you allow it to. It could also be that they found what they were looking for and then were done with it. Only they know why!

Thank you so much Lumaza for sharing your thoughts! I agree with you, this is a constant of challenges. If there's one thing I deeply regret, it's stopping practicing. We're not starting from scratch, but it's not easy to pick up the pace either. I should have solved my problems, instead of throwing everything away, but it's all part of the learning process.

A change in your mindset really does change your reality. It leaves you not only open to more, but also craving more.  You just need to learn to lose your constant need to control everything there and instead "open yourself up" to it. Trust will lead you further than you could have ever imagined.

You have definitely hit the spot! The issue of control, that's what led me to stay stuck in the past. I remember in Monroe's second book (or third?) where he said that his experiences had completely changed when he decided to "let go." I'm implementing it and it's wonderful. From the Void I simply manifest my intention to be shown what I need and I'm carried by whirlpools, tunnels or forces towards different scenarios. Now is where everything is starting to flow.

This is the second time I have read a post of yours speaking about visiting the low and shadow places. If I had not explored those areas further myself, I would not have been introduced to the phenomenon of "Retrievals". That is where the Retrievals are. You are entering someone else's version of "hell" and darkness.

Now it's coming a third time...  Recently I have been there again and it was spontaneous (like always) I became aware and I was being carried by a guide, a formless grayish white energy being, through a place of gray fog, I call now this place "Shadow land." because the people are like black shadows and they have a haggard and terrible appearance, I had been there before. There were hundreds, it's like an entire city, but each one is in their own bubble and they don't seem to see anyone, and every time someone passed by me, my energy body was shaken with a wave of horror and suffering. I remembered the retrievals, and I told the guide that I couldn't continue, these people need help! But he told me that I couldn't do anything for them, and that I knew it well. I still wanted to try, so I went to a "shadow woman" and asked her if she needed help, she said NO and left... well I embarrassed myself a bit and I'm also a newbie, I can't do this now! But I have good intentions and I think they have been able to see it.

Hopefully over the years  I'll have my chance like many of you here. I think they take me to these places to know the entirety of the Multiverse, ALL of it. CURIOSITY and the desire to know more are always stronger and here I am, more excited than ever. This is how I have overcome any fear. I always carry the torch of Love high and we are never alone in this. 

Thank you, Tak, for the kind words of encouragement!  I'm certainly not going to stop, but progress is going to be made slowly, no doubt.  haha

Yeah, apparently, this stuff ISN'T like riding a bike. 

Perhaps you could deal with the issue of motivation in your APs, and ask what "ingredient" is missing, you might get a vibe  .

[Kodemaster]

Hey, sorry for the delay in replying. I have been going through a rough patch. Funny thing, I was going to mention / ask about seeing places in your dreams you have never seen, and then finding out they are real by visiting them after the dream. I've had good and bad experiences with that.

For years I have dreamed of -- and had random flashbacks to -- what looks like Bannau Brycheiniog in Wales. I could never identify these places until recently. I thought some of them were in New Mexico and Australia, others no idea. I come from Welsh ancestry, so maybe I thought these memories were somehow passed down through genes.

A not so pleasant dream was the one where I was homeless again, in my early fifties, lying down on a metal bench outside the Syracuse, New York bus stop watching the bright orange sunset reflect off the buildings. I was back to my same bad situation after I left my abusive ex from Illinois back to New York in 2017 only to get assaulted by my parents. I was homeless for two months. In 2019 I saw this exact same bench outside this exact same bus terminal that I had not seen before because it had not been built until after I moved back to New York from Illinois.

I have been wanting to see Wales more badly than anything because I am fascinated by the language and the history. Hopefully next year I will finally get to see it when I sit for my language exam.

I've been wanting to move there, study and get a job over there, however I fear that I will end up unemployed and forced to move back to the United States, penniless and without health insurance.

These dreams and deja vu things really bother me. I have a hard time discerning what is real and what is my PTSD messing with me because I have been dealt some nasty cards in life.