DILD or Dream from WBTB?

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Luthor

I've had maybe three solid AP experiences which all share the same characteristics.

Wake-back-to-bed - They all take place in early hours, best guess about 3- 4am after waking from sleep.
Lying in bed I'll feel very heavy with sleep paralysis, right on the verge of sleep.
I feel a very fast strobbing, pulsing sensation from my forehead and solarplexus will like crazy in traditional chakra locations and I feel like I'm shaking (oddly this hasn't happened in months and wonder if I'm doing something wrong)

I am at this stage fully coscious but right at the edge of sleep then I seperate - It's something I instinctively seem to know how to do at 4am whilst in that state but cannot for the life of me explain properly when not. Reading other posts I'd say 2 x roll out and 1x brain squeeze exit techniques.

Now I'm out - I swear I haven't lost consciousness at any point but I'm in what appears to be a lucid dream. Somehow I fell asleep without falling asleep.

last exp:  I exited at 4amish walked downstairs, marvelling at how real it all felt. Walking out our front door I saw a gang of scallies (thugish looking youths for anyone not UK :-) waiting at the gates - They seemed vaguely malign but I resolved to walk towards them with a smile and no fear and they drifted off (Quite early on in these experiences I get tested by a scenario and any primal outbursts of anger, fear or lust send me right back to fulll consciouss with rapped knuckles.) The house was a different house to the one we live in and the neighbourhood was a nice, quiet suburban street. I flew around for a bit exploring then decided to find the youths.  I asked people on the street where if they'd seen anyone and they said no but then I heard music coming from a party somewhere and knew that was where I should go. It's been months since my last experience and I decided to return to body so I'd remeber rather than explore further.

It's maybe 70% vivd around wherever my conciousness is focused and more like 30% where not.
It doesn't feel like descriptions of a WILD I've read. There does seem to be an unbroken stream of consciousness and I don't gain lucidity from a dream but rather seem to exit into one but there's no control and it's very low res.

Help me out guys, I don't suppose the label I put on this experience matters too much but out of curiosity would you class this as a DILD or phasing or just a dream????

Also when you guys exit from WBTB what quality of audio, visual, kinesthetic of the environment? (if low & fuzzy initially,and did it get more realistic with practice?)



Szaxx

Grounding is required.
This is performed with tactile sensations from everything around you and more importantly your intent on becoming at least 100% aware. If any doubts are in your mind or ever have been,  it's time to keep a positive outlook that by simply thinking "clarity now" it all becomes crystal clear.

Eventually when you become aware the instant action is to gain full clarity automatically.
This  will be an instinct where it creates lucidity in nearly every dream you have.
It can be done, if you convince yourself its easy and a natural process.
Expect nothing instantly though, you're pushing a large rock uphill. Once at the top a little tap and your experiences will be too many to count.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Well, it wasn't a DILD because you didn't become lucid from a dream state.  You say you stayed conscious, so it was a WBTB and you phased.  You just lost a little lucidity/quality of consciousness during the transition -so you weren't 100% lucid.

Whether I use WILD, DILD, WBTB, or anything else, it does not dictate the quality of consciousness I end up with once I'm 'on the other side.'  You can train yourself to become instantly 100% lucid once your there. (as Szaxx said above)  Even if I've phased in with some grogginess, once I see my new environment, my excitement or joy at being there instantly bumps me up to 100% lucidity.  I'm able to just shove away that little bit of grogginess.  Just be very positive and exited about being there.  Have faith that you can do this and you will.  :)

Luthor

Ta Szaxx & Soarin,

I feel somehwere near the bottom of that mountain right now looking up but even these low resolution infrequent experiences blow me away so I'm looking forwards to the HD version. I will try to remember to ground and state intent for clarity now.

Interesting what you both say about the positive outlook and belief/intent - By default I'm that guy who wants to believe but has trouble taking it on faith. I always want to draw back the curtain and check for wires.  I'm ready to believe...I just want a fully conscious, hi-res, technicolour, all singing, dancing experience to prove I'm not just just doign a snow job on myself.  This attitude's got to go hasn't it. If I'm reading you guys right I need to ditch this half skeptic-half beliver attitude and have faith. 

I was going to ask another question about WBTB and whether or not my experiences were a typical Phase, WILD,DILD etc then realised I'm over analysing and looking needlessly for labels to define a subjective personal experience - Im just happy it's working (some of the time :-)

Thanks guys

Szaxx

Kill the doubt and stop analysing, the journey is better without this unnecessary baggage.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

soarin12

Quote from: Luthor on July 12, 2014, 17:11:41
  This attitude's got to go hasn't it. If I'm reading you guys right I need to ditch this half skeptic-half beliver attitude and have faith. 

I was going to ask another question about WBTB and whether or not my experiences were a typical Phase, WILD,DILD etc then realised I'm over analysing and looking needlessly for labels to define a subjective personal experience - Im just happy it's working (some of the time :-)

Thanks guys

You've got it!  Embrace the 'magic' and it will start to come naturally!  :)