Questions regarding recent experience...

[Aros]

First of all, thanks in advance for any feedback any of you kindly offer.

My wife and I recently had a baby so as you can imagine, a lot of sleepless nights. Of course, this bodes well for OBE as I can find myself in that perfect state early in the morning from being so tired.

So this morning, after being up pretty much all night, having slept a couple hours at most...I felt the oh-so-wondrous vibrations. I guess my body was so relaxed because I didn't even need to employ my usual tried and true method of the roll-out technique. Instead, I simply began lifting up slowly until I hit the ceiling just like a helium balloon.

I'll spare you the rather insignificant details of floating around my room, etc and get to the point.

At some point I all of a sudden found myself standing in a room with a girl. She was talking to me and I could totally/instantly sense we had known each other for years, perhaps even as girlfriend/boyfriend. Still in my "Awake" mind, not my dreaming mind, I said to her;

"Now I know this sounds strange but I have some questions I would like you to answer honestly." She said okay. I then said, "What year is it?"

Now I'm not 100 percent sure but I'm almost sure she said 2005.

The second question was to ask her the names of the people we were discussing (like I should of known but my "Awake" mind did not).

She told me the first name, and the second...I know, get ready to laugh...

"Booby." (I thought she meant Bobby of course but I heard her say Booby loud and clear)

I said, "Booby?" and laughed. She just looked at me like I had suddenly lost my mind.

Okay, the question is, how do I know when I have left the OBE/Astral state (as far as the conscious act of leaving the physical to explore) and entered a dream state lucidly or even a parallel universe?

I have a hunch that often times (like the scene with the girl above) I feel like what I may be doing is entering the lives or moments of one of my multidimensional selves in a parallel universe or dimension. I have instant recognition of the person/situation I am in internally, but my Awake mind (the conscious mind aware of typing this message to you right now) has no idea who they are or what their names are, etc.

Does anyone have experience with this type of thing that could help me shed more light on the true nature of these experiences? I would be extremely grateful. I'm also interested in hearing some new questions to try in these situations that may spark a more interesting end result as far as exploration goes.

Thanks again!

[Selski]

Hi Aros

Congratulations on the new addition to your family.  

I have a hunch that often times (like the scene with the girl above) I feel like what I may be doing is entering the lives or moments of one of my multidimensional selves in a parallel universe or dimension. I have instant recognition of the person/situation I am in internally, but my Awake mind (the conscious mind aware of typing this message to you right now) has no idea who they are or what their names are, etc.

I agree with you.  I have this too, where some part of me intuitively/instinctively knows the person I am conversing with, and yet the physical me/mind hasn't a clue who they are.  It's very frustrating because as you experienced, when you ask certain questions, the other person does tend to look at you like you're a bit bonkers.

If you look at it from their point of view, I guess it would be like your wife asking you what year it was and how she knew you.  

I'm also interested in hearing some new questions to try in these situations that may spark a more interesting end result as far as exploration goes.

Thanks again!

I suppose the only way to get them to be less suspicious of us is if we have the presence of mind - and the time - to gently explain our situation.  Perhaps by saying that we also currently live in another world, and the nature of this world is that we forget who we really are, and if they could help us out, it would be really appreciated?

I think you'd have to play it different depending on who it was that you met.  Some people may be more amenable to your questions, in which case you wouldn't have to go through the rigmarole of explaining.  

The difficulty I find with this, is that when I'm there, actually talking to these "friends", I do tend to lose some "logical" part of my mind and I forget that I'm supposed to be finding out who they are or what our connection is.    

Anyway, great experience and good luck with future explorations.  Keep us informed and if you come up with any poignant questions, let me know!

Sarah

[Aros]

Thanks for the reply!

Yes it is a bit maddening to lose that sense of awake part of you that is the explorer and slip apathetically into the dreaming mind. By then it's too late to do anything but go through the motions of your dream theater (of course without realizing you're in fact dreaming).

I remember a dream I had several years ago. I "woke up" in a dream and turned to my friend (this was a dream) and said, "Whoa. I just had the weirdest dream!" I proceeded to tell my friend all about my life, my friends, lovers, interests, etc...

In other words, I was describing my life as I know it to some friend as if THIS was the dream world, not the one I "dreamed"!

I suspect if we all knew the true nature of our reality it would be overwhelming to say the least. I suspect that is one of the reasons we are zapped with amnesia of sorts when we reincarnate into our next life.

Sensory overload!

[xxshimmerxx]

That has happened to me so many times! I had about 6 dreams of an old-school looking auditorium... with an old green wooden stage.  I was on roller-figure skates, and so were about 5 other girls. O.O We were apparently going to put on a performance?? Yeah, as I was talking to these girls I felt a strong connection, like I knew them very well... but once I woke up, I thought "Where the heck was I!?!?!?" Yeah, I've had this skating dream many times. At some points I was on stage doing a solo... at some points we were skating in a group... in another dream I was in the audience, and in another dream I was a last minute back up for someone else...

>.< It's all pretty complicated. I wish I knew all the answers... haha

[Selski]

I remember a dream I had several years ago. I "woke up" in a dream and turned to my friend (this was a dream) and said, "Whoa. I just had the weirdest dream!" I proceeded to tell my friend all about my life, my friends, lovers, interests, etc...

In other words, I was describing my life as I know it to some friend as if THIS was the dream world, not the one I "dreamed"!

Now that is really off the wall.  I love stuff like that.  It kinda says to me that reality is very....hmmmm....changeable, for want of a better word.

Have you read Robert Peterson's experience of a very similar nature?  If not, here's an extract from the book (which is available online, by the way - the link will follow)...

"Another experience happened when I was a little older, perhaps fourteen or fifteen.  I used to have playful wrestling matches with two other boys.  One day we were talking about wrestling, and got on the subject of the world-famous wrestling hold called "the sleeper hold."  The hold would knock an opponent out by cutting off blood circulation to the brain.  Anyway, we all wondered what it would be like to be knocked out.  FD was the strongest of the three and the third boy was afraid, so I agreed to let FD knock me out with a bear-hug.

We went outside and he gave me the strongest bear-hug I've ever experienced.  I couldn't breathe and soon became unconscious.  It was like waking from a dream; this world was a dream and I awoke to a reality more real and vivid than this world was.  I saw the illusion of this existence on earth dispelled!  It faded away and I didn't regret it.  Soon I found myself in the "real" world in a huge city that I already knew.

My memory seemed to return - yes, I had gone to sleep and dreamed of a little place called "earth" and now I was awake.  "That was a silly dream," I thought, and I soon forgot all about "earth".  I continued my life, just like it was before I fell asleep.  I lived in that fantastic city for years and years - centuries it seemed.  I lived there so long that I completely forgot about earth.  For hundreds of years I had forgotten earth.  If someone asked me about it, I couldn't remember, since I had left it so long ago.

Then one day I was walking into a store.  Suddenly I became confused, losing my sense of direction, and I felt myself falling.  Abruptly I opened my eyes only to see strange leaves, the sky, and FD and the other boy looking at me!  Where was I now?  How did I get here?  What happened!  Then I remembered: hundreds of years ago, I fell asleep and found myself here.  This place was called "earth" and was a part of a weird dream.  I must have fallen asleep again.  Slowly my earthly memory returned.

I asked the boys how long I had been unconscious.  They said only a few minutes.  They asked me what happened, and I told them I didn't want to talk about it."

For the whole of Robert Peterson's book, 'Out of Body Experiences' - click here.

http://www.robertpeterson.org/obebook.html

I'm really cross with myself right now because I had the following dream last night (totally non-lucid), and I believe the person I was with was trying to "wake me up" but I was so darned locked into the dream, I didn't even realise...  

In the dream, I was with someone that I used to know in physical reality.  They said to me, "what's the best dream you've had with me?" (most likely the lucid trigger, which I completely missed) and after some thought I told them which was my favourite dream.... then I promptly woke up...  and thought :WTF:

Unfortunately, I am not in a position to contact the other person.  

This dreaming lark can be rather convoluted, can't it.  Dreams within dreams and false awakenings - it can get mighty confusing.  

You have to laugh really   :aargh:

Sarah

[Gandalf]

This is why it is so important to practice getting into the astral from a fully awake state. Having 100% of your awareness intact rather than 90% or even 99% makes a BIG difference.

I am constantly frustrated by that niggling missing 1% which is always lost when getting into the astral via a dream, which means i forget to do what seems totally obvious to me the rest of the time, resulting in lost opportunities.

Doug

[Aros]

It's maddening because when you're dreaming, you're completely unaware of it at the time. I wake up and say, "Okay you were driving a floating ice cream truck down a river sitting next to Catherine Zeta Jones...COME ON!!"  

I was reading something recently about how physics is coming to the same conclusions about parallel universes/dimensions as many of us are. I used to joke that maybe in a parallel universe somewhere I was living that life I always wanted. Maybe there is truth to that after all.

It's overwhelming to think about it actually. All these fragments of me living simultaneous yet drastically different lives in the multiverse.

[dingo]

Very interesting topic... Do you think it would be possible to switch your awareness to another 'fragment' of you?

[Aros]

Yes I do think that is possible. I believe I have done that a few times. One would be the experience I mentioned in the beginning of my post. The other would be the time I woke up in a dream to report my life (as I experience it in this life) to my friend as a really vivid dream.

It sure does give one pause when thinking...What's real? What reality is the real reality? Living these physical existences...Aren't they all sort of illusions? The platforms of our Soul's dreaming mind? Okay that's getting a bit melodramatic but it does seem that perhaps our multidimensional existences are all happening simultaneously, one no more or less real than the other, yet only accessible to one another through the portal of our dreams or Astral travels/OBEs...

This then begs the question...How does this effect reincarnation? If we are already living multiple lives as multiple fragments of Self in multiple dimensions (therefore multiple life lessons at once) all at once, then why the need to reincarnate after each life? Or maybe it's a very efficient means to reincarnate...Not one at a time but hundreds, thousands (millions?) at once?

Ah, my head's spinning.  

[dingo]

I wasn't very clear.. I meant at will... It would be really cool to be able to choose when to do that and which parallel 'you' to go into.
If 'God' (or whatever) is split up into millions of multidimensional beings... Then perhaps the multidimensional You is split up into millions of facets of You... Then its a question of whether the multidimensional You reincarnates or whether the facets reincarnate. If the former, each of the facets would have to wait for the last one to die.... Actually this is going nowhere. My head hurts too!