9 OBEs in one morning. F1/F2 with a lot of detail and control over environment

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LoLmart

WOW. I just happened to have an incredible OBE this morning. I woke up at 5:30AM and realized I had fallen asleep unexpectedly at around 2AM so I went to the bathroom to brush my teeth and went back to bed but had a little trouble going to sleep because I had itches in my hair for at least half an hour. It is 7:49 right now and I am proud to say that I probably had the most controllable OBE of my life so far that taught me a lot of things. I am extremely happy because I just answered some of the questions that have been bugging me.

So I woke up in the morning and, to be honest, I wasn't very well rested and I didn't have a huge urge to AP and wanted to continue my sleeping. However, I knew that once I am out of my body – no more tiredness. I tried an indirect technique where I try to sense a mobile phone in my hand but it did not work. Then I tried the technique where I sense myself hovering above my body. It took me a few seconds to get it just right. When I did, I could feel some mild vibrations. I could actually feel them starting exactly when I could sense myself above myself, very precise reaction by my body. 8 very short OBEs followed in which the same problem occurred over and over again. My vision was either distorted right after leaving my body or got distorted shortly after that.

The interesting thing I noted was that at the first few seconds of leaving my body I was still kind of tired and now I know for sure what Raduga means by "by all means necessary" when he talks about being aggressive when leaving your body. A few of the times I was reaaally struggling to get out of my body but I did. Now I know to be aggressive.

The second thing I noted very well was that at the first few seconds out of the body I was not completely sure if I was out of body so I checked my hands and every single time they warped and pulsated sideways. It is great to be able to check in just a moment if I am OoB or not.

The annoying thing in these 8 short OBEs is that at some point in all of them my vision got distorted and I could not fix it. I wonder why is that. I tried zooming in on many different objects, not only my hands. Touching different things. Nothing worked. Almost every time an "image" of my cell phone would appear in the lower end or right side of my vision. It was just annoying as hell. I couldn't fix it. Any tips on that?

One of the times, my vision was fine and I looked down and boom – my mobile phone again! LOL. Every other attempt felt like I was losing my energy, my battery and the experiences were generally shorter every consequent time. I was skeptical and wanted to go to sleep but I just couldn't let the opportunity go away. So I tried a ninth time!

I went out of my body, deepened, tried not to look too much at my hands this time. Started deepening and touching many different objects and established a great connection. I felt in control this time. I was in my brother's room and was thinking of doing things but it was so realistic that I wasn't sure I wanted to fly cause I thought I might be physical and die lol. So I checked my hands – they were warping. Green light.

Another interesting thing that I learned from these series of OBEs is that if I think that my hand will not pass through the window and will rather touch it – it will touch it. If I just take a moment to intend to pass myself through the window – no problem. I played with that for a few seconds. These are all very basic stuff but they are important basic blocks so I am happy I noted them at the time of my OBE.

I went through the window. I don't remember if I flew to the ground or not but I was there at one point. I am still in F1, outside of my apartment block. I was just hanging around and it really looked like the sun was just about ready to rise at this point. There was light but not very bright. I did not feel tired anymore. I felt excited. There was no need to deepen at this point even though I kept being active and exploring. I was just entering F1/F2 and I wanted to experiment with my powers. I started zapping with energy some of the plants in a negative way. They just went whoosh and made an inward movement. Then I decided to make them grow fast by pointing my hands towards them and changing the intent. I did not say anything. I did not have a sentence in my head like "grow bigger" or anything. It was a very vague intent but the trees and flowers responded perfectly. In just a few seconds I could grow an apple tree with very big apples. I picked one of them and took a bite but it turns out I ate part of a nasty worm hole or something lol. It was very realistic. I started flying a bit just to see how it feels and it really felt great but in slow motion. I remembered at that time that I had read about the slow motion feeling and acknowledged it to be correct.

Suddenly, some dogs appeared out of nowhere and I felt a little fear at first but I told myself that it was my own projection so I patted them and went through them without any fear. I then wanted to fly a bit more but wanted to transition fully to F2 and experience some amazing scenery. That's just what happened. 20 meters in front of me, the landscape changed into a beautiful sunset and I flew into it. After a few moments the scenery changed and I was in a corridor. There were some people walking around so I followed along. I felt like I was in a museum. At this point something interesting happened. I thought of my body for a brief moment. I didn't have a verbalized thought like "my body" or "should I return to my body", it was just a thought I was aware of. I cancelled it in just a second. Nothing happened. Then I decided to try it again. I produced the same thought of my body without verbalizing it and I cancelled it a moment later. This is the third time I had such a thought while being out of the body and I did not return any of the times because it was for just a short period. This is an important revelation because many people say that you will be zapped right back in if you think about your body but I guess there is some lag or let's say – you have to have a little stronger intention or thought or maybe maintain the thought for a few moments. I continued walking around the corridor with the other people and I saw myself and 2 other friends of mine walking in the opposite direction. I was laughing and neither of them saw me so I slapped one of my friends on the left side of the face and he said something to me but I didn't care. I just kept on going. I was starting to get bored of this corridor so I decided to think of my cousin and go to her or at least project her from my own mind. It didn't work but I did not form a strong and lengthy intention. Just for a moment and then for another moment or two but nothing happened and I returned to my body.

I have to say that I really love the precision of the way I interacted with my surroundings, the control I had and the fact that it wasn't like every thought in the back of my head instantly came into being. It wasn't like some crazy festival of thought-projection that I couldn't control. If I was aware of something, it still didn't come into being unless I really wanted it. I had to consciously intend it. At the same time, the trees responded much quicker to my intention without verbalizing it. It is a very smooth balance and it needs no adjustments. I am also very happy to project 9 whole times with the same technique and I am sure I will use it in the future. I will need some help with the distorted vision because I am not sure if I am able to fix a very distorted vision but I rather have to return to the body (or better said – I am being returned against my will) and then try my luck another time. That cell phone image that kept coming was a pain in the butt so any advice is welcome on how to deal with it. This is the second time (one time=several exits in one morning) in 7-10 days that I go out of body and these are the only two times that I made a series of exits. I think it is crucial that one tries many times in one morning in order to accomplish exiting the body properly and with good vision and control. I am also confused as to why I cannot speak while out of body. I tried to say "go to Focus 2" just before I experimented on the trees but no words came out, just a verbal thought. Any tips and comments are appreciated!



Szaxx

Hi
Nice one or nine lol.
The thoughts you had, you said vauge. These are something you'll need to master as they manifest and cause a little confusion. Aka the phone reoccurring. Words are not required as you found. The intent is and also you have to believe in what you do, aka the window. Soon you'll move things around and make anything without a second thought. Pun.
Keep it going and rest too.
Safe travels.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Greytraveller

Greetings LOLmart
9 OBEs is Very impressive. To your credit you were able to seize the opportunity and make the most of it. Apparently you visited one or more non-physical locations. That museum-like building probably only exists in the astral (non-physical) and probably does Not have a physical world counterpart. Chances are that the museum is part of a larger Belief System Territory (or, as some would like to call it, a higher Focus Level (F15 or F23??).
As OBEs tends to happen in bunches (they do for me anyway) you might be fortunate to experience a bunch more in the next few days.

Regards  8-)
Grey

LoLmart

Hey, thanks, guys, that's very encouraging. I was actually surprised at the ease and the number of successful attempts that a noob like me can achieve. I thought that the projective energy runs out quickly but if I can do 9 separations in one morning maybe there is enough energy within everyone for a lengthy experience. I am also not very healthy this whole year so I hope it's encouraging to people who think they are too ill to have experiences or whatever prejudice there is within them. And that leads me to another question:

On average how often would an intermediate projector and an expert projector project in a month? I have not seen many people talk about it but my understanding is that even the experts don't always have projections every week. Some of them have like once a month, some several times... It probably depends on the amount of time one puts in trying to project. I guess some monks in Tibet are projecting on a daily basis if they meditate 10 hours a day. What are your takes on that, pulsers?

Lionheart

Quote from: LoLmart on October 20, 2012, 06:03:26
On average how often would an intermediate projector and an expert projector project in a month? I have not seen many people talk about it but my understanding is that even the experts don't always have projections every week. Some of them have like once a month, some several times... It probably depends on the amount of time one puts in trying to project. I guess some monks in Tibet are projecting on a daily basis if they meditate 10 hours a day. What are your takes on that, pulsers?
It really depends on how "deep" you wish to take this practice. I attempt everyday to Phase. But I also have Lucid Dreams about 5 nights a week. Yes, it does depend on how much time and effort you wish to put into your practice. If you create a Daily Routine of sorts, you will find you will have a very high level of success.

LoLmart

Quote from: Lionheart on October 20, 2012, 17:15:19
It really depends on how "deep" you wish to take this practice. I attempt everyday to Phase. But I also have Lucid Dreams about 5 nights a week. Yes, it does depend on how much time and effort you wish to put into your practice. If you create a Daily Routine of sorts, you will find you will have a very high level of success.

Wow. 5 nights a week is crazy! Can you give me a link to a thread where you explain some of your techniques, or maybe a book that really boosted your performance in LDs. Maybe give a few tips here :P. I don't think many people here have LDs or APs as often as you do.

Steel Hawk

After you start doing it regularly it becomes automatic when you try to sleep.

LoLmart

well yeah but how do I start doing it regularly is the question :). I know some things but there should be some little secrets I am missing. I guess...

Lionheart

Quote from: Steel Hawk on October 21, 2012, 11:04:27
After you start doing it regularly it becomes automatic when you try to sleep.
Yes this statement is spot on!  :-) I found success through repeated Brain Entrainment. I say to myself every night before I fall asleep. "By my act of will, I RELEASE my focus over my physical body. PLEASE, TAKE ME to your desired Destination. SHOW ME what I need to SEE. TEACH ME what I need to LEARN. AWAKEN me in my Dreams fully CONSCIOUSLY AWARE so I may REMEMBER them, so I may LEARN from and ENJOY them". I visualize each one of the capitalized words as fading into the blackness before my eyes.
I do this every single night. The "SECRET" is, you have to show your own effort and willingness to succeed, even when dealing with your "higher self"!
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)

LoLmart

Quote from: Lionheart on October 21, 2012, 16:45:45
Yes this statement is spot on!  :-) I found success through repeated Brain Entrainment. I say to myself every night before I fall asleep. "By my act of will, I RELEASE my focus over my physical body. PLEASE, TAKE ME to your desired Destination. SHOW ME what I need to SEE. TEACH ME what I need to LEARN. AWAKEN me in my Dreams fully CONSCIOUSLY AWARE so I may REMEMBER them, so I may LEARN from and ENJOY them". I visualize each one of the capitalized words as fading into the blackness before my eyes.
I do this every single night. The "SECRET" is, you have to show your own effort and willingness to succeed, even when dealing with your "higher self"!
Good Luck and Safe Travels!  :-)


Great tip, Lion! I will try that. Should I wait till I am almost asleep to say that or just after entering the bed and relaxing my body a little bit? Do I say it outloud or just in my head? What about Dream Journals. I always hear people say that it is crucial and I will start doing it even though I don't always remember a lot from my dreams. What is the logic behind a dream journal? Is it about noticing certain repeating patterns which will help you notice that you are dreaming while you are dreaming? Is there something else to it?

Lionheart

Quote from: LoLmart on October 22, 2012, 01:38:53
Great tip, Lion! I will try that. Should I wait till I am almost asleep to say that or just after entering the bed and relaxing my body a little bit? Do I say it outloud or just in my head? What about Dream Journals. I always hear people say that it is crucial and I will start doing it even though I don't always remember a lot from my dreams. What is the logic behind a dream journal? Is it about noticing certain repeating patterns which will help you notice that you are dreaming while you are dreaming? Is there something else to it?
Say it when you go to bed as you are closing your eyes to sleep. I say it in my head, but you can do it any way you wish, writing it down would be good as well. There's alot of strength in writing something on paper and reading it all the time. That really drives the message through.
Dream Journals are great aides. The logic behind a Dream Journal is #1 it teaches you to remember and #2 it gives you a written record of something you can go back to someday to compare experiences against.
You need to to a bit of work here on this site for yourself. If you type the word "noticing" in the search engine you will see a ton of posts on the subject. Things like this show how determinded and how serious you are about this practice. Laziness does not produce results. There are no corners to cut in this practice.
You are the one that made the post here about having 9 OBE's in one morning. We should be the ones asking you questions!

LoLmart

Haha, thanks a lot. I will do more research. I think that if I can manage to have lucid dreams at least once a week and astral project once a week I will be a happy mofo. I will be looking for a good LD book on pdf (free) to boost my lucidness in dreams. Thanks for all the tips, Lionheart and the others!

Szaxx

Hi,
Have a search,

[unfortunately we can't allow links to copyrighted material here... sadly  ~Xanth]

Enjoy.

There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

LoLmart

Quote from: Szaxx on October 22, 2012, 05:23:47
Hi,
Have a search,

[unfortunately we can't allow links to copyrighted material here... sadly  ~Xanth]

Enjoy.

This has to be a golden post! Huge 'thank you'!

LoLmart

Szaxx, can you advise me on which book is best to learn from about navigating when out of body and also I want to read some good indirect techniques for exiting the body (upon awakening). And one last thing - I think someone should make this esotericonline website a sticky.

Szaxx


Hi,
There's lots on that list.
If youre into energy work then Astral Dynamics, I've read that last year.
R. Monroe has a few that may help (in the Titles). I've started reading some of his today.
Its a good question to ask. I've been on my own so self taught for two score years and some.
Hopefully someone can give a better suggestion to read. Ask a question and thats a different thing.
Keep at it slowly, it cant be rushed.

There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

LoLmart

I have read Astral Dynamics and I really liked it. However, if I remember correctly, R. Bruce does not talk about indirect techniques of exiting the body. I've read some of Monroe and I like him but I don't plan on using binaural beats so I want something else. Maybe I will try Mastering Astral Projection but there are so many books I can't choose another one. I read on  this forum about Moen I think and I was searching for his books on pdf but he isn't very popular online it seems. I wil just go with the flow and read MAP to see where it takes me. What a great database. Thanks again for the link!

Szaxx

Hi,
You're welcome.
I can remember one with many techniques
Search for SOBT.PDF
Its a M Raduga book. Easy to find.
You've probably read it though...
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Lionheart

Quote from: Szaxx on October 22, 2012, 05:23:47
Hi,
Have a search,
[unfortunately we can't allow links to copyrighted material here... sadly  ~Xanth]
Enjoy.
Wow Szaxx, that's like the "yellow pages" of Astral Travels there. Thank you for sharing. Definitely a Library that will come in handy here. :-)

Edit: I am currently trying to find out if we would be allowed to "sticky" this in the Welcome to Astral Consciousness! forum. This would be a fantastic aid to all of members, new and old here!  :-)

Lionheart

 Unfortunately due to that site having books with Copyrights. We are forced to remove that link from this entire thread and the forum in general. I'm sorry guys, but that's the rules.
I hope you all understand.  :-(

Szaxx

Hi,
We dont want to put the Pulse into any trouble.
Could the link be PMed in the interests of research and development?
This use of, allows use in this respect within some copyrights. It does depend on the country though.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

Quote from: Szaxx on October 23, 2012, 02:46:41
Hi,
We dont want to put the Pulse into any trouble.
Could the link be PMed in the interests of research and development?
This use of, allows use in this respect within some copyrights. It does depend on the country though.
Whatever the public eyes don't see is fine...   >_>  ;-)